In Reply to: I am curious what DBT advocates do themselves posted by Analog Scott on December 13, 2006 at 18:46:45:
"do you stop and reject that experience because it hasn't been varified by DBTs?"You've set up a false dichotomy. Why on earth does anyone need to validate their experience? And how on earth could it be done with a DBT? You'll have to explain that one. Good luck with it . . . but it's your assumption, not mine!
I like to listen to good music (and also to perform it). But I just don't mindlessly attribute the good experiences merely to having excellent equipment. I have spent some time and effort in setting up the speakers and getting them to sound somewhere near their potential, so that the system doesn't get in the way of the music. I try to find fine recorded performances and where possible, good to excellent recordings (not possible with old historical recordings, but I still like some of the old ones). But you know, really, even more important is getting relaxed and in the mood to enjoy music--helpful even for live performances.
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- Re: I am curious what DBT advocates do themselves - Pat D 15:52:45 12/14/06 (69)
- "Why on earth does anyone need to validate their experience? And how on earth could it be done with a DBT?" The irony! - Analog Scott 22:15:05 12/14/06 (68)
- Nonsense: YOU came up with the concept of validating experiences, so YOU get to explain it. - Pat D 02:26:09 12/15/06 (67)
- LOL I can up with the idea of validating experiences? Just what is an objectivist asking for when they demand DBTs ? - Analog Scott 08:50:11 12/15/06 (38)
- Please explain your own term: "validation of subjectivists' perceptions." - Pat D 12:14:51 12/15/06 (37)
- Just look up each word in the dictionary and put the idea together for yourself. nt - Analog Scott 23:33:38 12/15/06 (31)
- So you really don't know what you meant! But I already knew that. - Pat D 07:41:18 12/16/06 (30)
- That is a truly pathetic - Analog Scott 08:56:09 12/16/06 (29)
- Yes, you say things so confused that you can't explain what you mean by them. - Pat D 09:44:48 12/16/06 (28)
- dude do you do anything besides chasing your tail? - Analog Scott 10:20:59 12/16/06 (27)
- I just trying to chase down your allegation. - Pat D 11:03:41 12/16/06 (26)
- That's reaaly sad. You tried to chase a simple concept and followed your tail round and round instead. nt - Analog Scott 11:42:30 12/16/06 (25)
- No specifics, no data, no references. (nt) - Pat D 11:48:11 12/16/06 (24)
- Wrong. - Analog Scott 16:39:29 12/16/06 (23)
- Nope. Here's one of your posts. - Pat D 19:37:06 12/17/06 (22)
- Yes and if you read it and understand it you would see that you are wrong - Analog Scott 21:36:34 12/17/06 (21)
- I understand well enough that you make up silly opinions for me. - Pat D 06:27:03 12/18/06 (20)
- In reality you make up silly opinions of me and offer no support - Analog Scott 09:30:23 12/18/06 (19)
- Come on, tell Unca' Pat what's troubling you! (nt) - Pat D 17:04:04 12/18/06 (18)
- I have. you still don't get it - Analog Scott 17:08:39 12/18/06 (17)
- I get it that you make a lot of allegations about what my opinions are but provide no evidence. - Pat D 18:01:46 12/18/06 (16)
- No you are just making things up about me and providing no evidence to support it - Analog Scott 20:39:58 12/18/06 (15)
- I gave a link to your false statements about me--where's your support for your false statements? - Pat D 20:46:35 12/18/06 (14)
- wrong again - Analog Scott 21:25:12 12/18/06 (13)
- Please provide evidence your "flase" statements are true. (nt) - Pat D 05:36:43 12/19/06 (12)
- Please provide evidence my true statements are false. (nt) - Analog Scott 22:32:10 12/19/06 (0)
- Evidence Of One Of Pat D-Cakes "false" Statements! - thetubeguy1954 09:09:47 12/19/06 (10)
- Where's the false statement? Evidence please. (nt) - Pat D 09:42:31 12/19/06 (9)
- Evidence Of Pat D-Cakes "false" Statements! (Lies?0 - thetubeguy1954 12:52:58 12/19/06 (8)
- Holy $hit - E-Stat 14:05:39 12/19/06 (7)
- Do you understand the concept of suspending judgment when evidence is not available? - Pat D 14:50:13 12/19/06 (6)
- Ah, so that is what you call your non-positions! - E-Stat 15:09:56 12/19/06 (5)
- So you agree that I don't assert the null hypothesis! - Pat D 00:15:47 12/20/06 (4)
- You continue to illustrate the point most vividly - E-Stat 05:32:11 12/20/06 (3)
- Well, that's the issue. TG54 insists that I believe something which I do not. - Pat D 17:20:41 12/20/06 (2)
- The Issue YOU Deny What You Say - thetubeguy1954 09:30:50 12/21/06 (1)
- I say "some" and you somehow understand "every" or "none." - Pat D 18:00:55 12/21/06 (0)
- A Bunburyist - kerr 13:40:20 12/15/06 (4)
- I thought *everyone* knew ... poor Pat-D-cat, talk about green behind the ears! nt - bjh 13:47:32 12/15/06 (0)
- Addendum - kerr 13:41:37 12/15/06 (2)
- I'll supply a hint: it's found in a play by Oscar Wilde. - Pat D 15:34:46 12/15/06 (1)
- Re: I'll supply a hint: it's found in a play by Oscar Wilde. - kerr 16:36:35 12/16/06 (0)
- Pat, Pat, calm down Pat, stop screaming. It's not good for you health Pat. nt - bjh 04:26:58 12/15/06 (27)
- He has to scream - Analog Scott 08:55:04 12/15/06 (19)
- Testable claims. - Pat D 10:28:59 12/15/06 (16)
- Your claims are testable but you don't test them. Why? nt - Analog Scott 16:38:33 12/16/06 (15)
- Changing your ground, again? Well, you can lead the horse to the water . . . (nt) - Pat D 18:25:00 12/16/06 (14)
- Why all the posturing? Why not just answer straight questions with straight answers? - Analog Scott 18:59:50 12/16/06 (13)
- Because you evidently don't read what I do say. - Pat D 20:52:20 12/16/06 (12)
- no you don't read what I say. nt - Analog Scott 11:58:47 12/17/06 (11)
- I certainly can read your false statements about me. - Pat D 18:33:46 12/17/06 (10)
- How? none exist - Analog Scott 21:37:37 12/17/06 (9)
- You still provide no evidence. (nt) - Pat D 06:59:51 12/18/06 (8)
- Thanks for admitting you provided no evidence for your assertions. - Analog Scott 09:32:17 12/18/06 (7)
- You provide no evidence I have made those assertions in the first place. - Pat D 17:10:45 12/18/06 (6)
- so now you are denying all your previous assertions? - Analog Scott 21:26:39 12/18/06 (5)
- What previous assertions? Links please. (nt) - Pat D 05:35:13 12/19/06 (4)
- You don't know what you asserted? - Analog Scott 22:10:37 12/20/06 (0)
- Links Provided! - thetubeguy1954 14:06:05 12/19/06 (2)
- Which don't say what you allege. - Pat D 14:56:53 12/19/06 (1)
- What are you babbling about? - Analog Scott 15:13:39 12/22/06 (0)
- The REAL Pat D Revealed At Last - thetubeguy1954 09:17:08 12/15/06 (0)
- To be fair to objectivists ... - bjh 09:01:02 12/15/06 (0)
- Ahhh, so you can't explain it, either! (nt) - Pat D 07:04:00 12/15/06 (6)
- Pat, let's address the core issue, shall we? - bjh 07:38:48 12/15/06 (5)
- "I, of course, admit the foregoing is a case of unsubstianted speculation " --Errr . . yeah, glad to hear it. - Pat D 07:55:24 12/15/06 (4)
- Okey dokey, ignore the advice, - bjh 08:13:45 12/15/06 (3)
- OK: Explain how to answer nonsensical questions and straw man arguments. - Pat D 08:43:55 12/15/06 (2)
- Pest nt - bjh 08:56:21 12/15/06 (1)
- I didn't think you'd know. (nt) - Pat D 10:53:11 12/15/06 (0)