In Reply to: But how do you establish what you perceive is due to the equipment? posted by Pat D on December 14, 2006 at 05:51:12:
Pat,Do you bow at the JJ alter constantly? Every one of these posts of yours tells us to look to JJ or provides a link to something by JJ! Is almost like people who say Jesus said or here's a link to Mark 3:3. They believe those statements as much as you appear to believe JJ's statements. I'm afraid JJ is your Audio-god, not ours.
1) http://www.audioasylum.com/forums/prophead/messages/26274.html
2) http://www.audioasylum.com/forums/prophead/messages/26285.html
3) http://www.audioasylum.com/forums/prophead/messages/26295.html
4) http://www.audioasylum.com/forums/prophead/messages/26294.htmlPat what you need to do is provide detailed, documented proof that these beliefs of yours i.e. people cannot hear differences in either a) wires in an intelligently designed audio system or b) between properly designed audio components that are functioning correctly, are scientifically supported.
Thus as you are making these claims the burden is on you to prove what you believe. Unfortunately that will require you provide peer reviewed and published studies that prove your assertions. Any claims you make in the name of science that is not supported by legitimate science is bogus, voodooscience or psuedoscience, nothing more nothing less. If the science isn't there to support your claims Pat then science shouldn't be invoked by you when making these claims. Otherwise these comments you're making in the name of science are only your opinion.
If you claim the science is there, the please provide peer reviewed and published studies (not just JJ said) that prove your assertions. Or if you cannot provide peer reviewed and published studies that prove your assertions that people cannot hear differences in either a) wires in an intelligently designed audio system or b) between properly designed audio components that are functioning correctly, maybe you should stop stating your opinions as if they are scientifically proven facts?
Thetubeguy1954
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Follow Ups
- Bowing At The JJ Alter Pat? - thetubeguy1954 07:57:01 12/14/06 (34)
- jj is a world-class expert in audio DBTs. - Pat D 08:55:44 12/14/06 (33)
- He also doesn't insist that audiophiles do DBTs nt - Analog Scott 00:06:21 12/16/06 (24)
- Neither do I. - Pat D 09:58:16 12/16/06 (23)
- LOL - Analog Scott 11:47:11 12/16/06 (22)
- I have no obligation to defend figments of your imagination. (nt) - Pat D 21:05:43 12/16/06 (21)
- You are the one imagining things - Analog Scott 12:01:43 12/17/06 (20)
- I'm not imagining this post full of false statements about me. - Pat D 18:35:47 12/17/06 (19)
- You are imagining a great deal. - Analog Scott 21:40:46 12/17/06 (18)
- Have you no shame, sir? - Pat D 06:10:44 12/18/06 (17)
- Have you no shame? You can't even cite one quote where I say anything untrue about you - Analog Scott 09:35:30 12/18/06 (16)
- Where have I said you quoted me? Come on laddie! - Pat D 17:48:46 12/18/06 (9)
- why are you asking yet another irrelevant question? - Analog Scott 20:42:26 12/18/06 (8)
- You brought up the suject of quotations my son. So you now admit bringing up irrelevancies. (nt) - Pat D 20:49:35 12/18/06 (7)
- No I did not bring up the topic of quotations per se - Analog Scott 21:30:49 12/18/06 (6)
- Ah yes, more examples of good old Honest Analog Scott! - Pat D 05:41:21 12/19/06 (5)
- Thank you for finally admitting I was the honest one. nt - Analog Scott 22:35:10 12/19/06 (4)
- Irony is lost on you. (nt) - Pat D 23:11:10 12/19/06 (3)
- If that were true you wouldn't be so amusing to me - Analog Scott 22:14:01 12/20/06 (2)
- Yeah, I know. To amuse yourself you are willing to say anything, true or untrue. (nt) - Pat D 18:04:52 12/21/06 (1)
- Wrong again - Analog Scott 15:16:26 12/22/06 (0)
- Re: Have you no shame? You can't even cite one quote where I say anything untrue about you - thetubeguy1954 13:59:59 12/18/06 (5)
- I'm glad to see you are starting to admit your shortcomings, Tom. - Pat D 17:52:07 12/18/06 (4)
- You Keep Proving I'm Correct About You Pat - thetubeguy1954 07:35:58 12/19/06 (3)
- Is this like where you tell us what you *would* hear in a DBT if you actually did one? - Pat D 07:52:56 12/19/06 (2)
- No This Is Where You Change The Topic As Usual - thetubeguy1954 14:09:36 12/19/06 (1)
- No, you just make empty promises. 9nt) - Pat D 14:59:56 12/19/06 (0)
- In Your OPINION That Is... - thetubeguy1954 08:52:33 12/15/06 (2)
- And oh yeah...jj is a Fellow of the AES. - Pat D 10:52:15 12/15/06 (0)
- You really must learn about 'some' and 'every' . . . - Pat D 10:49:18 12/15/06 (0)
- JJ, the guy who had a penchant for demanding apologies (seemed like every other post), - bjh 04:37:20 12/15/06 (4)
- Were you one of those attacking his professional qualifications, and then refusing to apologize? - Pat D 07:22:22 12/15/06 (3)
- "Felony"! Woah!, talk about drama! Oh I guess a little sympathy is called for, after all ... - bjh 07:47:09 12/15/06 (2)
- You might look up the word "metaphor." - Pat D 07:57:48 12/15/06 (1)
- Pest _nt - bjh 09:34:41 12/15/06 (0)