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If your amplifier is clipping, have you left the realm of high fidelity? - AJinFLA 16:11:48 10/31/06 (214)
- I guess we're all in trouble -- every amp clips once in a while - Richard BassNut Greene 14:14:06 11/02/06 (82)
  - Re: I guess we're all in trouble -- every amp clips once in a while - Don T 05:56:51 11/04/06 (3)
    - "every amp clips once in a while"....Oh yeah? - Soundmind 06:29:58 11/04/06 (2)
      - Oh yea! - Don T 06:56:33 11/04/06 (1)
        
        Re: Oh yea! - Soundmind 08:26:55 11/04/06 (0)
  - Don't worry about it, we're not usually in the realm of high fidelity anyway - Soundmind 15:29:46 11/02/06 (77)
    - Relative to your theories... - soulfood 16:31:15 11/02/06 (76)
      - Re: Relative to your theories... - Soundmind 17:02:29 11/02/06 (75)
        
        But do all halls behave the same? - Bob Rex 06:50:27 11/03/06 (1)
        
        Re: But do all halls behave the same? - Soundmind 09:08:54 11/03/06 (0)
        
        Re: Relative to your theories... - soulfood 19:14:09 11/02/06 (3)
        
        Re: Relative to your theories... - vettracer 19:44:31 11/02/06 (2)
        
        Re: Relative to your theories... - soulfood 09:25:53 11/03/06 (0)
        
        Re: Relative to your theories... - Soundmind 03:24:04 11/03/06 (0)
        
        The part that he completely missed - E-Stat 17:36:01 11/02/06 (68)
        
        Re: The part that he completely missed - Soundmind 03:34:07 11/03/06 (59)
        
        I was discussing the result of Amar's research, the Bose 901 - E-Stat 06:23:29 11/03/06 (58)
        
        I wasn't. You brought it up because you are a troll - Soundmind 08:43:48 11/03/06 (57)
        
        Congratulations! - E-Stat 09:17:42 11/03/06 (56)
        
        Re: Congratulations! - Soundmind 09:25:36 11/03/06 (55)
        
        SM, I am an engineer - E-Stat 09:56:08 11/03/06 (54)
        
        Wow, you really had me fooled, I never would have guessed. - Soundmind 10:19:34 11/03/06 (53)
        
        Similar, but - E-Stat 10:46:06 11/03/06 (52)
        
        Did you have to take regular engineering courses like Calculus, Differential equations, physics? - AJinFLA 13:29:44 11/03/06 (49)
        
        "Ha-Ha!!! Ho-Ho!!!! Hee-Hee!!!!!" - Todd Krieger 22:22:42 11/03/06 (22)
        
        Crocodile Tears - Dan Banquer 06:28:40 11/04/06 (0)
        
        I'm not an engineer.. - AJinFLA 05:09:36 11/04/06 (1)
        
        Are You Always Thinking About Me AJ? - thetubeguy1954 09:43:25 11/06/06 (0)
        
        Are you an electrical engineer? If not, maybe I shouldn't be talking to you - Soundmind 04:10:01 11/04/06 (7)
        
        Re: "Are you an electrical engineer? If not, maybe I shouldn't be talking to you" - Todd Krieger 20:07:28 11/04/06 (6)
        
        Re: "Are you an electrical engineer? If not, maybe I shouldn't be talking to you" - Soundmind 06:02:32 11/05/06 (5)
        
        Re: "Are you an electrical engineer? If not, maybe I shouldn't be talking to you" - Todd Krieger 10:44:05 11/05/06 (4)
        
        Re: "Are you an electrical engineer? If not, maybe I shouldn't be talking to you" - Soundmind 14:23:57 11/05/06 (3)
        
        Re: "Are you an electrical engineer? If not, maybe I shouldn't be talking to you" - Todd Krieger 00:46:15 11/06/06 (2)
        
        Re: "Are you an electrical engineer? If not, maybe I shouldn't be talking to you" - Soundmind 06:12:55 11/06/06 (1)
        
        Software design is ALL about problem solving - E-Stat 08:44:37 11/06/06 (0)
        
        Re: "Ha-Ha!!! Ho-Ho!!!! Hee-Hee!!!!!" - john curl 01:57:18 11/04/06 (10)
        
        Engineering Courses Versus Public Forums..... - Todd Krieger 19:35:50 11/04/06 (8)
        
        Re: Engineering Courses Versus Public Forums..... - john curl 00:49:26 11/05/06 (7)
        
        Re: Engineering Courses Versus Public Forums..... - Todd Krieger 02:17:19 11/05/06 (6)
        
        Re: Engineering Courses Versus Public Forums..... - john curl 12:03:00 11/05/06 (0)
        
        Re: Engineering Courses Versus Public Forums..... - Soundmind 06:08:49 11/05/06 (4)
        
        Re: Engineering Courses Versus Public Forums..... - Todd Krieger 10:52:37 11/05/06 (0)
        
        Sure it is - E-Stat 10:47:19 11/05/06 (2)
        
        Re: Sure it is - Soundmind 14:32:18 11/05/06 (1)
        
        Actually - E-Stat 09:34:21 11/06/06 (0)
        
        Re: "Ha-Ha!!! Ho-Ho!!!! Hee-Hee!!!!!" - john curl 12:01:07 11/04/06 (0)
        
        What floats your boat - E-Stat 14:17:18 11/03/06 (4)
        
        Ah - AJinFLA 15:37:39 11/03/06 (3)
        
        Nice - E-Stat 16:39:31 11/03/06 (2)
        
        Re: Nice - AJinFLA 19:20:15 11/03/06 (1)
        
        Hmmm - E-Stat 06:41:48 11/04/06 (0)
        
        Re: Did you have to take regular engineering courses like Calculus, Differential equations, physics? - Soundmind 14:08:08 11/03/06 (8)
        
        Re: Curl's position - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 09:58:26 11/05/06 (5)
        
        Re: Curl's position - Soundmind 10:25:28 11/05/06 (4)
        
        Re: Curl's position - john curl 15:32:36 11/05/06 (3)
        
        Re: Curl's position - Soundmind 19:38:14 11/05/06 (2)
        
        Re: Curl's position - john curl 22:51:35 11/05/06 (1)
        
        Re: Curl's position - Soundmind 06:16:44 11/06/06 (0)
        
        Maybe he drives a train in his spare time (nt) - AJinFLA 14:13:38 11/03/06 (1)
        
        Or visa versa... maybe he sells software in his spare time and driving trains is his day job (nt) - Soundmind 14:37:57 11/03/06 (0)
        
        Re: Did you have to take regular engineering courses like Calculus, Differential equations, physics? - kerr 13:36:14 11/03/06 (11)
        
        Re: Did you have to take regular engineering courses like Calculus, Differential equations, physics? - AJinFLA 14:12:10 11/03/06 (10)
        
        Re: Did you have to take regular engineering courses like Calculus, Differential equations, physics? - kerr 16:53:51 11/03/06 (8)
        
        Re: Did you have to take regular engineering courses like Calculus, Differential equations, physics? - AJinFLA 20:17:04 11/03/06 (7)
        
        Re: Did you have to take regular engineering courses like Calculus, Differential equations, physics? - kerr 09:05:09 11/04/06 (6)
        
        Glenmorangie (nt) - AJinFLA 16:29:11 11/06/06 (1)
        
        That's a good choice - kerr 04:39:35 11/07/06 (0)
        
        Scotch? - thetubeguy1954 12:47:18 11/06/06 (3)
        
        Re: Scotch? - kerr 12:58:10 11/06/06 (2)
        
        Bourbon! - thetubeguy1954 08:12:37 11/07/06 (1)
        
        We just have to be careful... - kerr 09:18:33 11/07/06 (0)
        
        Or kindergarten (nt) - AJinFLA 14:35:09 11/03/06 (0)
        
        Re: Similar, but - Soundmind 11:12:31 11/03/06 (1)
        
        As the link I provided mentions - E-Stat 11:40:56 11/03/06 (0)
        
        Re: The part that he completely missed - tomservo 17:44:57 11/02/06 (7)
        
        Re: The part that he completely missed - Soundmind 03:36:41 11/03/06 (5)
        
        Re: The part that he completely missed - kerr 08:25:53 11/03/06 (4)
        
        Re: The part that he completely missed - thetubeguy1954 09:24:21 11/03/06 (3)
        
        Off-topic... - kerr 10:00:59 11/03/06 (2)
        
        Re: Off-topic... - thetubeguy1954 13:31:36 11/03/06 (1)
        
        Re: Off-topic... - kerr 13:43:00 11/03/06 (0)
        
        I have been to The Mountain - E-Stat 19:03:36 11/02/06 (0)
- I believe it is the case.. - Ugly 10:46:39 11/02/06 (6)
  - This Could Be Caused By "Expectation Biases" No? - thetubeguy1954 11:16:43 11/02/06 (5)
    - Re: This Could Be Caused By "Expectation Biases" No? - Ugly 15:18:56 11/02/06 (4)
      - Re: This Could Be Caused By "Expectation Biases" No? - thetubeguy1954 09:06:39 11/03/06 (3)
        
        Re: This Could Be Caused By "Expectation Biases" No? - Ugly 11:42:07 11/03/06 (2)
        
        Re: This Could Be Caused By "Expectation Biases" No? - john curl 12:11:22 11/03/06 (1)
        
        So the cops don't like distortion caused by clipping either....hmmm. - Ugly 16:27:03 11/03/06 (0)
- YES,,,,, But - tomservo 08:55:46 11/02/06 (1)
  - Re: YES,,,,, But - AJinFLA 13:50:59 11/03/06 (0)
- I think there are couple more variables here - E-Stat 14:50:55 11/01/06 (2)
  - Re: I think there are couple more variables here - Steve Eddy 15:30:44 11/01/06 (1)
    - Only with my second example - E-Stat 16:00:45 11/01/06 (0)
- Re: If your amplifier is clipping, have you left the realm of high fidelity? - Dan Banquer 12:39:40 11/01/06 (92)
  - Re: If your amplifier is clipping, have you left the realm of high fidelity? - Soundmind 08:36:36 11/02/06 (0)
  - Just to clarify... - andy_c 18:19:01 11/01/06 (68)
    - Re: Just to clarify... - Dan Banquer 05:39:21 11/02/06 (67)
      - Amen. Distortion figures, too. - markrohr 09:40:21 11/02/06 (6)
        
        Re: Amen. Distortion figures, too. - Pat D 12:37:37 11/02/06 (5)
        
        Re: Amen. Distortion figures, too. - Dan Banquer 16:40:24 11/02/06 (3)
        
        Re: Amen. Distortion figures, too. - Soundmind 04:23:21 11/03/06 (2)
        
        Re: Amen. Distortion figures, too. - Dan Banquer 04:36:07 11/03/06 (1)
        
        Re: Amen. Distortion figures, too. - Soundmind 05:53:37 11/03/06 (0)
        
        Yup. Wish Stereophile would follow suit. - markrohr 13:28:07 11/02/06 (0)
      - Re: Just to clarify... - morricab 09:16:17 11/02/06 (59)
        
        Hummmmmmmmmmmmm. - Dan Banquer 09:42:04 11/02/06 (58)
        
        Re: Hummmmmmmmmmmmm. - morricab 01:14:50 11/03/06 (57)
        
        Re: Hummmmmmmmmmmmm. - Dan Banquer 05:27:55 11/03/06 (56)
        
        Re: Hummmmmmmmmmmmm. - morricab 07:16:55 11/03/06 (55)
        
        Here's an amplifier you'd die to own...if it had somebody elses name on it - Soundmind 14:49:40 11/03/06 (49)
        
        It's your lucky day, SM! - E-Stat 18:06:40 11/05/06 (0)
        
        Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz - E-Stat 14:07:31 11/05/06 (0)
        
        Re: Here's an amplifier you'd die to own...if it had somebody elses name on it - morricab 01:26:57 11/04/06 (46)
        
        Re: Here's an amplifier you'd die to own...if it had somebody elses name on it - Pat D 07:31:39 11/04/06 (40)
        
        Buy a speaker that does not have a roller coaster curve like the arbitrary test load - E-Stat 06:08:33 11/06/06 (33)
        
        But many, many speakers have a roller coaster impedance vs. frequency curve. - Pat D 07:19:38 11/07/06 (32)
        
        Well, I've always chosen the speaker first - E-Stat 11:21:34 11/07/06 (31)
        
        Re: Well, I've always chosen the speaker first - Pat D 20:27:06 11/07/06 (30)
        
        I'm just not sure about one thing - E-Stat 12:26:10 11/08/06 (29)
        
        Re: I'm just not sure about one thing - Pat D 17:55:17 11/08/06 (28)
        
        Re: I'm just not sure about one thing - morricab 02:07:36 11/09/06 (23)
        
        Re: I'm just not sure about one thing - Pat D 07:23:35 11/09/06 (22)
        
        Re: I'm just not sure about one thing - morricab 08:32:16 11/09/06 (21)
        
        Re: I'm just not sure about one thing - Pat D 15:46:49 11/09/06 (20)
        
        Re: I'm just not sure about one thing - morricab 03:33:42 11/10/06 (19)
        
        Re: I'm just not sure about one thing - Pat D 05:12:54 11/10/06 (18)
        
        Re: I'm just not sure about one thing - morricab 06:53:50 11/10/06 (17)
        
        Re: I'm just not sure about one thing - Pat D 08:53:38 11/10/06 (16)
        
        Re: I'm just not sure about one thing - morricab 13:59:48 11/13/06 (15)
        
        Re: I'm just not sure about one thing - Pat D 22:58:54 11/17/06 (14)
        
        Re: I'm just not sure about one thing - morricab 08:50:46 11/20/06 (13)
        
        Re: I'm just not sure about one thing - Pat D 11:12:10 11/21/06 (12)
        
        Re: I'm just not sure about one thing - morricab 02:29:01 11/22/06 (11)
        
        Re: I'm just not sure about one thing - Pat D 05:54:22 11/23/06 (10)
        
        Re: I'm just not sure about one thing - morricab 09:43:31 11/23/06 (9)
        
        Re: I'm just not sure about one thing - Pat D 14:21:56 11/23/06 (8)
        
        Re: I'm just not sure about one thing - morricab 16:36:58 11/23/06 (7)
        
        Re: I'm just not sure about one thing - Pat D 11:13:37 11/25/06 (6)
        
        Re: I'm just not sure about one thing - morricab 18:22:50 11/25/06 (5)
        
        Re: I'm just not sure about one thing - Pat D 18:15:15 11/27/06 (4)
        
        Other sources of information - morricab 09:05:17 11/29/06 (0)
        
        Re: I'm just not sure about one thing - morricab 07:32:33 11/29/06 (2)
        
        Do you listen that loud? - Pat D 13:57:44 11/29/06 (1)
        
        Re: Do you listen that loud? - morricab 09:11:29 11/30/06 (0)
        
        Misstatements? - E-Stat 18:49:56 11/08/06 (3)
        
        Re: Misstatements? - Pat D 15:16:06 11/09/06 (2)
        
        Feel free to interpret the data as you please - E-Stat 15:41:20 11/09/06 (1)
        
        Why don't you use the more accurate NRC data? - Pat D 22:27:51 11/09/06 (0)
        
        Re: Here's an amplifier you'd die to own...if it had somebody elses name on it - morricab 02:07:08 11/06/06 (3)
        
        Re: Here's an amplifier you'd die to own...if it had somebody elses name on it - Pat D 04:57:15 11/06/06 (2)
        
        Re: Here's an amplifier you'd die to own...if it had somebody elses name on it - morricab 06:31:15 11/06/06 (1)
        
        Re: Here's an amplifier you'd die to own...if it had somebody elses name on it - Pat D 22:02:37 11/06/06 (0)
        
        This is not an amplifier you'd want to use with the 4 ohm 12" AR based speaker system - Soundmind 08:39:25 11/04/06 (1)
        
        Re: This is not an amplifier you'd want to use with the 4 ohm 12" AR based speaker system - Pat D 08:04:43 11/05/06 (0)
        
        Morricab, like other subjectivists, you are an ignorant fool - Soundmind 06:08:00 11/04/06 (4)
        
        Re: Morricab, like other subjectivists, you are an ignorant fool - morricab 01:57:59 11/06/06 (1)
        
        Re: Morricab, like other subjectivists, you are an ignorant fool - john curl 10:43:20 11/06/06 (0)
        
        Re: Morricab, like other subjectivists, you are an ignorant fool - Dan Banquer 13:20:14 11/04/06 (1)
        
        Re: Morricab, like other subjectivists, you are an ignorant fool - morricab 01:27:40 11/06/06 (0)
        
        Re: Hummmmmmmmmmmmm. - Dan Banquer 07:53:24 11/03/06 (4)
        
        Don't forget to mention the Cheever thesis in your article - andy_c 20:29:19 11/03/06 (0)
        
        Re: Hummmmmmmmmmmmm. - morricab 08:08:01 11/03/06 (2)
        
        As I expected: When it comes to putting your money where your mouth is... nt - Dan Banquer 09:38:02 11/03/06 (1)
        
        Re: As I expected: When it comes to putting your money where your mouth is... nt - morricab 01:28:22 11/04/06 (0)
  - I sure as hell don't - E-Stat 18:06:44 11/01/06 (10)
    - Re: I sure as hell don't - Soundmind 18:23:27 11/01/06 (9)
      - Re: I sure as hell don't - john curl 22:44:46 11/01/06 (8)
        
        I'm gonna have to disagree John - E-Stat 07:12:27 11/02/06 (3)
        
        Re: I'm gonna have to disagree John - john curl 09:47:37 11/02/06 (2)
        
        Hey John, speaking of protecting your hearing... - mkuller 19:01:01 11/02/06 (0)
        
        AR-3s driven by a MKIII? - E-Stat 17:05:38 11/02/06 (0)
        
        Do the math - Soundmind 06:05:42 11/02/06 (0)
        
        Re: I sure as hell don't - Soundmind 05:00:56 11/02/06 (2)
        
        Re: I sure as hell don't - john curl 10:00:20 11/02/06 (1)
        
        There's an answer for every problem...well the simple ones anyway - Soundmind 10:58:34 11/02/06 (0)
  - P.S. - Dan Banquer 13:02:44 11/01/06 (10)
    - Re: P.S. - Soundmind 13:30:27 11/01/06 (9)
      - Re: P.S. - Todd Krieger 00:02:33 11/02/06 (2)
        
        And then there's that Symphony of a Thousand... nt - clarkjohnsen 08:28:51 11/02/06 (0)
        
        I knew there was a good reason why - E-Stat 07:03:17 11/02/06 (0)
      - Re: P.S. - thetubeguy1954 14:22:45 11/01/06 (5)
        
        Re: P.S. - Soundmind 14:33:25 11/01/06 (4)
        
        Re: P.S. - thetubeguy1954 06:38:16 11/02/06 (3)
        
        Re: P.S. - Soundmind 08:13:08 11/02/06 (2)
        
        Re: P.S. - thetubeguy1954 10:10:13 11/02/06 (1)
        
        Re: P.S. - Soundmind 11:00:17 11/02/06 (0)
- This was a fun demo - andy_c 11:33:12 11/01/06 (0)
- Saw and interesting demo... - morricab 11:09:57 11/01/06 (8)
  - Re: Saw and interesting demo... - Soundmind 11:53:36 11/01/06 (7)
    - Re: Saw and interesting demo... - morricab 02:39:02 11/02/06 (6)
      - If your amplifier is clipping, you have left the realm of High Fidelity. - Dan Banquer 06:01:40 11/02/06 (5)
        
        Re: If your amplifier is clipping, you have left the realm of High Fidelity. - morricab 09:12:08 11/02/06 (4)
        
        Re: If your amplifier is clipping, you have left the realm of High Fidelity. - Dan Banquer 09:36:06 11/02/06 (3)
        
        Re: If your amplifier is clipping, you have left the realm of High Fidelity. - morricab 01:40:38 11/03/06 (2)
        
        Re: If your amplifier is clipping, you have left the realm of High Fidelity. - Dan Banquer 04:39:46 11/03/06 (1)
        
        Re: If your amplifier is clipping, you have left the realm of High Fidelity. - morricab 07:22:02 11/03/06 (0)
- 100% correct - Soundmind 09:06:28 11/01/06 (9)
  - Caught! (I'm so ashamed) - Dave Pogue 11:32:12 11/01/06 (8)
    - You need to read the spec sheet to know what you're hearing, Dave. nt - markrohr 04:09:31 11/02/06 (7)
      - For some people who have sustained significant hearing loss, that's as close as they will come nt - Soundmind 04:46:02 11/02/06 (6)
        
        The topic of Dave's post was clipping and distortion in flea-powered amps, not hearing loss. nt - markrohr 09:43:55 11/02/06 (5)
        
        Re: The topic of Dave's post was clipping and distortion in flea-powered amps, not hearing loss. nt - thetubeguy1954 13:37:54 11/02/06 (0)
        
        And the topic of mine was that for some people, it could hardly matter less what comes out - Soundmind 12:10:49 11/02/06 (3)
        
        The same could be said for your engineering knowledge - morricab 03:18:09 11/07/06 (0)
        
        Re: And the topic of mine was that for some people, it could hardly matter less what comes out - Dave Pogue 16:53:37 11/02/06 (0)
        
        Perhaps you should just respond to your own posts, then. nt - markrohr 13:29:36 11/02/06 (0)
- Re: If your amplifier is clipping, have you left the realm of high fidelity? - thetubeguy1954 08:33:43 11/01/06 (4)
  - Do you use my posts when you shave? - AJinFLA 17:06:30 11/01/06 (2)
    - No I'd Just Like You To Intelligently Response To My Questions. - thetubeguy1954 09:53:01 11/02/06 (1)
      - Never feed that bad-mouthed stroll. - cheap-Jack 08:53:05 11/03/06 (0)
  - Re: If your amplifier is clipping, have you left the realm of high fidelity? - john curl 11:26:19 11/01/06 (0)
- Clipping as an audible artifact is not Hi-FI. (nt) - soulfood 07:40:22 11/01/06 (0)
More About Roger Russell's New Speakers. - thetubeguy1954 06:38:22 10/31/06 (36)
- Re: More About Roger Russell's New Speakers. - Pat D 18:15:54 10/31/06 (32)
  - Re: More About Roger Russell's New Speakers. - Soundmind 05:33:37 11/01/06 (0)
  - Please enlighten us - E-Stat 18:54:36 10/31/06 (30)
    - I think you'd better read the article again before you make statements about his opinions. - Pat D 06:06:15 11/01/06 (29)
      - Why do you say I haven't read it? - E-Stat 06:21:06 11/01/06 (28)
        
        I said you need to read it AGAIN. - Pat D 07:10:48 11/01/06 (27)
        
        The impedance chart is qualified with asterisks for lengths over fifty feet - E-Stat 07:26:28 11/01/06 (26)
        
        One ordinarily reads the TEXT in articles, too. - Pat D 11:55:28 11/01/06 (25)
        
        Ok - E-Stat 12:55:55 11/01/06 (24)
        
        Re: Ok - Pat D 14:14:38 11/01/06 (23)
        
        I think you missed my question - E-Stat 15:11:29 11/01/06 (16)
        
        Re: I think you missed my question - Pat D 20:26:26 11/01/06 (15)
        
        Still missing my question - E-Stat 06:22:16 11/02/06 (14)
        
        Nonsense. - Pat D 08:26:47 11/02/06 (13)
        
        I'm simply asking for you to complete discussing your opinion - E-Stat 09:01:41 11/02/06 (12)
        
        Re: I'm simply asking for you to complete discussing your opinion - Pat D 12:14:48 11/02/06 (10)
        
        Worrying about cables? - E-Stat 13:00:34 11/02/06 (9)
        
        Re: Worrying about cables? - Pat D 14:49:59 11/02/06 (8)
        
        I already knew the answer - E-Stat 15:26:24 11/02/06 (7)
        
        Re: I already knew the answer - Pat D 20:08:02 11/02/06 (6)
        
        Sure - E-Stat 06:36:02 11/03/06 (5)
        
        No DBTs? No replication? And so old! - Pat D 09:39:23 11/03/06 (4)
        
        Me ask for DBT proof? - E-Stat 10:12:15 11/03/06 (3)
        
        Wrong model. - Pat D 18:25:36 11/03/06 (2)
        
        I thought you had the originals (nt) - E-Stat 18:35:43 11/03/06 (1)
        
        Nope. I liked the ESL-63 better. - Pat D 22:08:32 11/06/06 (0)
        
        Re: I'm simply asking for you to complete discussing your opinion - thetubeguy1954 10:55:58 11/02/06 (0)
        
        Re: Ok - andy19191 14:34:40 11/01/06 (5)
        
        What did scientists think - E-Stat 16:12:35 11/01/06 (4)
        
        Re: What did scientists think - andy19191 01:04:53 11/02/06 (3)
        
        More - E-Stat 06:48:23 11/02/06 (2)
        
        Re: More - andy19191 12:37:44 11/02/06 (1)
        
        Okay - E-Stat 13:42:59 11/02/06 (0)
- Damned if you do damned if you don't. - Garth 13:58:35 10/31/06 (1)
  - Batavia , OH ZF cvt - GTF 15:25:45 10/31/06 (0)
- I wish him luck (nt) - E-Stat 08:29:08 10/31/06 (0)
What Are The Advantages To A Quadrupole Sub? - thetubeguy1954 14:25:57 10/30/06 (13)
- I'd call it a compound dipole -- advantages the same as all dipoles (reduced excitation of some room modes) - Richard BassNut Greene 09:21:31 10/31/06 (8)
  - On second thought it's not a compound dipole (but is a subwoofer with cheap ($65 retail) Eminence Alpha 15" drivers! - Richard BassNut Greene 08:29:28 11/03/06 (0)
  - Compound dipole +- +- Quadrupole +- -+ - AJinFLA 15:54:35 10/31/06 (4)
    - Actually a compound configuration can be either +- +- or +- -+ - Richard BassNut Greene 07:37:24 11/03/06 (0)
    - Then A Quadrupole Is Basically An OB Bipolar Design - thetubeguy1954 05:55:23 11/01/06 (2)
      - With an open baffle, it's definitely not a bipole design - Richard BassNut Greene 08:53:40 11/01/06 (1)
        
        Re: With an open baffle, it's definitely not a bipole design - thetubeguy1954 09:30:03 11/01/06 (0)
  - Re: I'd call it a compound dipole -- advantages the same as all dipoles (reduced excitation of some room modes) - morricab 14:17:05 10/31/06 (0)
  - Re: I'd call it a compound dipole -- advantages the same as all dipoles (reduced excitation of some room modes) - thetubeguy1954 10:07:22 10/31/06 (0)
- Re: What Are The Advantages To A Quadrupole Sub? - andy19191 16:10:29 10/30/06 (3)
  - Re: What Are The Advantages To A Quadrupole Sub? - thetubeguy1954 05:52:22 10/31/06 (0)
  - Re: What Are The Advantages To A Quadrupole Sub? - Steve Eddy 17:40:41 10/30/06 (1)
    - Re: What Are The Advantages To A Quadrupole Sub? - Soundmind 17:51:14 10/30/06 (0)
Active Cables - lipmanl@hotmail.com 05:38:19 10/29/06 (18)
- This could only work for low frequencies, - Al Sekela 12:12:21 10/29/06 (16)
  - Not so sure... - lipmanl@hotmail.com 17:02:42 10/29/06 (14)
    - "probes for oscilloscopes that work at rf" - Al Sekela 15:07:02 10/30/06 (13)
      - Re: "probes for oscilloscopes that work at rf" - lipmanl@hotmail.com 17:50:37 10/30/06 (12)
        
        No. My position is that "synergy" is a euphemism for ignorance. - Al Sekela 12:52:14 10/31/06 (2)
        
        Issues with dc bias on dielectric...and junctions - lipmanl@hotmail.com 13:31:00 10/31/06 (1)
        
        So then a copper wire must be entirely free of corrosion - Al Sekela 21:09:39 11/01/06 (0)
        
        Conundrum - Jon Risch 20:39:42 10/30/06 (8)
        
        Re: Conundrum - john curl 09:56:15 10/31/06 (1)
        
        Thanks, John Curl - lipmanl@hotmail.com 11:56:09 10/31/06 (0)
        
        Re: "operating single ended" - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 08:19:56 10/31/06 (2)
        
        Re: "operating single ended" - Jon Risch 19:18:33 10/31/06 (1)
        
        Re: "operating single ended" - Steve Eddy 19:55:12 10/31/06 (0)
        
        Re: Conundrum - Steve Eddy 21:28:52 10/30/06 (2)
        
        Re: Conundrum - Jon Risch 18:04:42 10/31/06 (1)
        
        Re: Conundrum - Steve Eddy 18:38:19 10/31/06 (0)
  - indeed. nt - clifff 13:21:29 10/29/06 (0)
- Re: Active Cables - clifff 07:42:25 10/29/06 (0)
Robert Young Email Me Personally Please (nt) - thetubeguy1954 11:46:49 10/27/06 (0)
Roger Russels New Speakers - thetubeguy1954 13:13:58 10/25/06 (72)
- Has anyone heard them? - Richard BassNut Greene 08:15:38 10/27/06 (1)
  - Re: Has anyone heard them? - thetubeguy1954 10:32:56 10/27/06 (0)
- Check out these line source speakers!! - morricab 02:03:20 10/27/06 (1)
  - Re: Check out these line source speakers!! - thetubeguy1954 05:28:30 10/27/06 (0)
- Re: Roger Russell's New Speakers - Pat D 19:16:49 10/26/06 (2)
  - Re: Roger Russell's New Speakers - Soundmind 07:06:44 10/27/06 (0)
  - Re: Roger Russell's New Speakers - morricab 01:49:38 10/27/06 (0)
- Hmmm - E-Stat 18:06:32 10/25/06 (26)
  - Re: Hmmm - jneutron 07:15:24 10/26/06 (25)
    - Re: Hmmm - Soundmind 07:42:09 10/26/06 (24)
      - Midrange focus - jneutron 09:17:15 10/26/06 (23)
        
        Re: Midrange focus - Soundmind 10:00:59 10/26/06 (22)
        
        "actual musical instruments" - jneutron 10:08:21 10/26/06 (21)
        
        I just visited a violinmaker - Soundmind 14:41:50 10/28/06 (20)
        
        Re: I just visited a violinmaker - andy19191 14:58:59 10/30/06 (1)
        
        Re: I just visited a violinmaker - Soundmind 15:29:36 10/30/06 (0)
        
        Re: I just visited a violinmaker - jneutron 07:30:41 10/30/06 (16)
        
        Re: I just visited a violinmaker - morricab 14:10:49 10/30/06 (1)
        
        Re: I just visited a violinmaker - Soundmind 15:33:06 10/30/06 (0)
        
        Re: I just visited a violinmaker - Soundmind 09:00:01 10/30/06 (13)
        
        Re: I just visited a violinmaker - john curl 10:44:05 10/30/06 (0)
        
        Re: I just visited a violinmaker - jneutron 09:57:07 10/30/06 (11)
        
        Re: I just visited a violinmaker - Soundmind 10:06:35 10/30/06 (10)
        
        Have you, perchance, heard the carbon fiber violas? - markrohr 13:12:50 10/30/06 (9)
        
        Re: Have you, perchance, heard the carbon fiber violas? - morricab 13:59:53 10/30/06 (7)
        
        Re: Have you, perchance, heard the carbon fiber violas? - unclestu52 19:53:00 10/30/06 (6)
        
        Re: Have you, perchance, heard the carbon fiber violas? - morricab 03:08:33 10/31/06 (5)
        
        Yamaha has been raising the bar - unclestu52 23:15:32 10/31/06 (0)
        
        Re: Have you, perchance, heard the carbon fiber violas? - john curl 10:20:24 10/31/06 (3)
        
        Re: Have you, perchance, heard the carbon fiber violas? - morricab 14:29:14 10/31/06 (2)
        
        Re: Have you, perchance, heard the carbon fiber violas? - john curl 16:00:14 10/31/06 (1)
        
        Re: Have you, perchance, heard the carbon fiber violas? - morricab 01:50:41 11/01/06 (0)
        
        Re: Have you, perchance, heard the carbon fiber violas? - Soundmind 13:33:32 10/30/06 (0)
        
        Just like digital recorded music. - GTF 14:53:25 10/28/06 (0)
- Re: Roger Russels New Speakers - AJinFLA 15:08:19 10/25/06 (29)
  - Do You Believe The Price Simply Equals The Sum Of The Prices Of The Parts Involved? - thetubeguy1954 09:41:52 10/26/06 (10)
    - Re: Do You Believe The Price Simply Equals The Sum Of The Prices Of The Parts Involved? - john curl 16:10:13 10/27/06 (4)
      - Re: Do You Believe The Price Simply Equals The Sum Of The Prices Of The Parts Involved? - Soundmind 03:38:59 10/28/06 (3)
        
        Re: Do You Believe The Price Simply Equals The Sum Of The Prices Of The Parts Involved? - john curl 12:30:58 10/28/06 (2)
        
        Re: Do You Believe The Price Simply Equals The Sum Of The Prices Of The Parts Involved? - Soundmind 13:37:13 10/28/06 (1)
        
        Re: Do You Believe The Price Simply Equals The Sum Of The Prices Of The Parts Involved? - morricab 07:26:36 11/03/06 (0)
    - Sigh - AJinFLA 17:41:07 10/26/06 (1)
      - YES Sigh Indeed - thetubeguy1954 06:38:39 10/27/06 (0)
    - Of course, but adding labor and then times five -- just like toasters. What's the dif? nt - clarkjohnsen 11:15:31 10/26/06 (1)
      - Darn it...I KNEW dere wuz sum simplar quation I cudda used..:-)nt - jneutron 11:22:03 10/26/06 (0)
    - 19K..hmmm - jneutron 10:57:49 10/26/06 (0)
  - Don't forget that for your $19k - E-Stat 19:02:20 10/25/06 (17)
    - Re: Don't forget that for your $19k - andy19191 09:31:02 10/27/06 (15)
      - Good Catch Andy_19191 - thetubeguy1954 10:27:55 10/27/06 (0)
      - That's pretty funny - E-Stat 09:53:12 10/27/06 (13)
        
        Re: That's pretty funny - andy19191 10:33:41 10/27/06 (12)
        
        Hmmm - E-Stat 11:05:47 10/27/06 (11)
        
        Re: Hmmm - andy19191 12:34:56 10/27/06 (10)
        
        The "sharp end"? - E-Stat 12:50:00 10/27/06 (9)
        
        Re: The "sharp end"? - andy19191 14:18:20 10/27/06 (8)
        
        Re: The "sharp end"? - andy19191 02:59:43 10/28/06 (5)
        
        No problem with the post placement - E-Stat 06:54:23 10/28/06 (4)
        
        Re: No problem with the post placement - andy19191 03:43:45 10/30/06 (3)
        
        More answers - E-Stat 04:29:48 10/30/06 (2)
        
        Re: More answers - andy19191 14:23:03 10/30/06 (1)
        
        Re: More answers - E-Stat 20:24:00 10/30/06 (0)
        
        He certainly doesn't have my vote - E-Stat 15:04:13 10/27/06 (1)
        
        Re: He certainly doesn't have my vote - andy19191 03:02:57 10/28/06 (0)
    - Re: Don't forget that for your $19k - kerr 10:45:48 10/26/06 (0)
- Re: Roger Russels New Speakers - jneutron 13:31:14 10/25/06 (7)
  - Re: Roger Russels New Speakers - AJinFLA 15:39:23 10/25/06 (4)
    - Re: Roger Russels New Speakers - jneutron 06:58:42 10/26/06 (3)
      - My my - AJinFLA 18:05:21 10/26/06 (2)
        
        Re: My my - jneutron 11:54:48 10/27/06 (0)
        
        Re: My my - Soundmind 05:18:53 10/27/06 (0)
  - Re: Roger Russels New Speakers - thetubeguy1954 13:41:23 10/25/06 (1)
    - Re: Roger Russels New Speakers - jneutron 14:00:33 10/25/06 (0)
"Brain Cramp: Last Thoughts (probably) On The Strange Audio World Of Peter W. Belt" -- Interesting article. - clarkjohnsen 11:34:49 10/25/06 (47)
- ..More interesting articles for you Clark et al - AJinFLA 17:40:09 10/28/06 (2)
  - What an "interesting" way of "saying it" - "bullshit" ! (nt) - cheap-Jack 04:36:02 10/29/06 (1)
    - Here you go Colby Jack - AJinFLA 09:37:20 10/29/06 (0)
- Interesting? not really. Entertaining? somewhat - BS64 09:56:04 10/26/06 (17)
  - Re: Interesting? not really. Entertaining? somewhat - May Belt 08:48:20 10/27/06 (16)
    - Clark described the article as "interesting" - BS64 07:32:03 10/28/06 (9)
      - Re: Clark described the article as "interesting" - May Belt 08:35:10 10/28/06 (8)
        
        Predict zero interest there by him. nt - clarkjohnsen 09:30:54 10/28/06 (7)
        
        Re: Predict zero interest there by him. nt - May Belt 02:58:14 10/29/06 (5)
        
        "Quite weird really" - BS64 12:09:46 10/30/06 (3)
        
        Re: Actually, if you - geoffkait 04:28:23 11/01/06 (2)
        
        sorry, dude... - BS64 12:36:30 11/05/06 (0)
        
        $175 for a "chunky" ink pen - BS64 12:18:39 11/05/06 (0)
        
        NOT really. [nt] - Wellfed 11:39:34 10/29/06 (0)
        
        correct, I'd rather listen to some music - BS64 14:52:11 10/28/06 (0)
    - Re: Interesting? not really. Entertaining? somewhat - john curl 11:47:10 10/27/06 (0)
    - Re: Interesting? not really. Entertaining? somewhat - Soundmind 09:57:05 10/27/06 (2)
      - May gets an "A" in my book too. [nt] - Wellfed 10:34:38 10/27/06 (1)
        
        Re: May gets an "A" in my book too. [nt] - May Belt 14:37:11 10/27/06 (0)
    - CD? [nt] - Wellfed 09:54:32 10/27/06 (1)
      - Re: CD? [nt] - May Belt 02:59:29 10/29/06 (0)
- Aluminium Foil & Wrapping Your Wires! - thetubeguy1954 12:52:14 10/25/06 (23)
  - Re: Aluminium Foil & Wrapping Your Wires! - john curl 11:11:20 10/26/06 (3)
    - Re: Aluminium Foil & Wrapping Your Wires! - thetubeguy1954 11:44:06 10/26/06 (2)
      - Re: Aluminium Foil & Wrapping Your Wires! - john curl 12:59:29 10/26/06 (1)
        
        Re: Aluminium Foil & Wrapping Your Wires! - thetubeguy1954 14:02:35 10/26/06 (0)
  - Here we were told that you always like everything you try! - clarkjohnsen 13:02:56 10/25/06 (18)
    - Re: Here we were told that you always like everything you try! - thetubeguy1954 13:07:12 10/25/06 (17)
      - Re: aluminum foil - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 16:47:44 10/25/06 (16)
        
        Re: aluminum foil - morricab 08:13:44 11/03/06 (0)
        
        Re: aluminum foil - geoffkait 08:30:44 10/26/06 (12)
        
        Re: aluminum foil - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 09:29:22 10/26/06 (11)
        
        Not true - AJinFLA 18:33:54 10/26/06 (0)
        
        Reynolds Wrap is da bom...(b)... - jneutron 12:12:08 10/26/06 (0)
        
        Re: aluminum foil - geoffkait 10:47:41 10/26/06 (0)
        
        Re: aluminum foil - thetubeguy1954 10:41:07 10/26/06 (7)
        
        Re: aluminum foil - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 13:53:53 10/26/06 (6)
        
        What did you measure? (nt) - andy_c 15:52:23 10/26/06 (5)
        
        Re: What did you measure? (nt) - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 16:27:04 10/26/06 (4)
        
        Re: What did you measure? - andy_c 16:49:40 10/26/06 (3)
        
        Re: What did you measure? - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 18:56:19 10/26/06 (2)
        
        Let me try to guess this one - andy_c 19:06:45 10/26/06 (1)
        
        Re: Let me try to guess this one - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 20:34:35 10/26/06 (0)
        
        Re: aluminum foil - thetubeguy1954 08:12:41 10/26/06 (0)
        
        Re: aluminum foil - kerr 06:37:25 10/26/06 (0)
- I just tried the freebie Foil a few nights back.... - mattcecil1@yahoo.com 12:39:11 10/25/06 (0)
- Re: "Brain Cramp: Last Thoughts (probably) On The Strange Audio World Of Peter W. Belt" -- Interesting article. - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 11:44:20 10/25/06 (0)
Might this be a quadrupole? - AJinFLA 18:08:24 10/24/06 (4)
- Why Is It A Quadrupole? - thetubeguy1954 11:24:13 10/27/06 (0)
- Re: Might this be a quadrupole? - thetubeguy1954 06:52:19 10/25/06 (0)
- Re: Might this be a quadrupole? - Lynn 18:22:34 10/24/06 (1)
  - Re: Might this be a quadrupole? - thetubeguy1954 06:50:33 10/25/06 (0)
My Apologies - thetubeguy1954 14:43:56 10/24/06 (17)
- Re: My Apologies - john curl 14:56:32 10/29/06 (0)
- Re: My Apologies - Phil Tower 18:15:05 10/27/06 (2)
  - Phil, please check that this was addressed to the right person - andy_c 16:18:43 10/29/06 (1)
    - Re: Phil, please check that this was addressed to the right person - Phil Tower 06:30:22 10/30/06 (0)
- You don't have to apologize to me -- I've been called worse names ... - Richard BassNut Greene 07:38:40 10/25/06 (1)
  - Re: You don't have to apologize to me -- I've been called worse names ... - thetubeguy1954 11:22:45 10/25/06 (0)
- Re: My Apologies - Lynn 18:17:11 10/24/06 (1)
  - You're Correct Lynn - thetubeguy1954 06:36:06 10/25/06 (0)
- Re: My Apologies - Soundmind 15:11:40 10/24/06 (0)
- He is way out of order. Well done on your restraint. nt - clifff 15:06:30 10/24/06 (7)
  - Why don't you give that man a medal and a testimonial dinner? nt - Soundmind 15:17:11 10/24/06 (6)
    - You are obviously very angry. You can do much better than this. - clifff 15:18:16 10/24/06 (5)
      - You're right. Lucky for him he caught me on an off day. Usually my postings are much sharper that these - Soundmind 15:24:33 10/24/06 (4)
        
        I am disappointed in you. nt - clifff 15:33:03 10/24/06 (3)
        
        Why, because I didn't play tube boob's head game by his rules? nt - Soundmind 15:45:13 10/24/06 (2)
        
        No, because it was over and you wouldn't let it go nt - clifff 14:18:17 10/25/06 (1)
        
        Re: No, because it was over and you wouldn't let it go nt - Soundmind 14:57:33 10/25/06 (0)
Why not burn CD's to test if cables make a difference? - mattcecil1@yahoo.com 10:55:47 10/24/06 (29)
- Re: why doesn't someone make some CD's & distribute them to all who want to 'test out' hi-end cables? - KlausR. 04:55:41 10/27/06 (0)
- Why not just ask someone to flip a coin and swap your cables every time it comes up heads - Richard BassNut Greene 08:10:46 10/25/06 (19)
  - ALL cables are the same? - mattcecil1@yahoo.com 10:01:57 10/25/06 (15)
    - No one has ever demonstrated to witnesses his ability to hear wire differences ... - Richard BassNut Greene 08:57:15 10/26/06 (5)
      - Re: No one has ever demonstrated to witnesses his ability to hear wire differences ... - Soundmind 19:36:25 10/27/06 (1)
        
        Re: No one has ever demonstrated to witnesses his ability to hear wire differences ... - Soundmind 06:37:53 10/28/06 (0)
      - Demonstrated to who? - mattcecil1@yahoo.com 10:46:07 10/26/06 (2)
        
        Re: Demonstrated to who? - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 05:14:55 10/29/06 (0)
        
        Re: Demonstrated to who? - kerr 10:52:53 10/26/06 (0)
    - Re: ALL cables are the same? - twitch54 18:05:32 10/25/06 (8)
      - Re: If you don't like - geoffkait 09:16:17 10/26/06 (2)
        
        Here's hoping he reports detailed results of his experiments for our elucidation. nt - clarkjohnsen 09:36:45 10/26/06 (1)
        
        Re: :-) nt - geoffkait 12:36:59 10/26/06 (0)
      - "Way to much 'Snake Oil' Mktg BS claims... one of my favorites is the 'cryogenic treatment'!!" LOL! - clarkjohnsen 08:58:29 10/26/06 (3)
        
        Maybe he should get an education.. - jneutron 09:30:56 10/26/06 (2)
        
        My complements, sir. nt - clarkjohnsen 09:35:00 10/26/06 (1)
        
        :-)..nt - jneutron 09:53:40 10/26/06 (0)
      - I totally agree with you... - mattcecil1@yahoo.com 20:48:03 10/25/06 (0)
  - Just a simple question - unclestu52 08:39:48 10/25/06 (2)
    - Just a simple answer - Richard BassNut Greene 09:05:56 10/25/06 (1)
      - Re: Just a simple answer - unclestu52 10:56:25 10/25/06 (0)
- I've Done This..... - Todd Krieger 21:37:37 10/24/06 (0)
- I'm not here to solve things.... - mattcecil1@yahoo.com 15:04:38 10/24/06 (2)
  - Re: I'm not here to solve things.... - Steve Eddy 15:27:01 10/24/06 (1)
    - Re: I'm not here to solve things.... - mattcecil1@yahoo.com 21:11:00 10/24/06 (0)
- Umm, I can only muster up one word.. - AJinFLA 14:31:13 10/24/06 (0)
- And what if I say I don't hear any difference? But you say you did, I presume? - Garth 13:54:58 10/24/06 (1)
  - Re: And what if I say I don't hear any difference? But you say you did, I presume? - Steve Eddy 14:19:47 10/24/06 (0)
- Re: Why not burn CD's to test if cables make a difference? - Steve Eddy 12:37:44 10/24/06 (0)
Subjectivists vs Objectivists, For Me The Battle Is Over! - thetubeguy1954 13:45:06 10/23/06 (112)
- Re: Subjectivists vs Objectivists, For Me The Battle Is Over! - twitch54 18:11:38 10/25/06 (0)
- It shouldn't be a battle, a debate sure. - Robert Hamel 09:46:03 10/24/06 (60)
  - Ye gods! Such a lot of wasted time and effort... - feet's too big 04:15:29 10/25/06 (3)
    - "staggering personal arrogance ..." - robert young 14:41:50 10/25/06 (0)
    - Ah, but there are souls to be saved. - markrohr 13:50:06 10/25/06 (1)
      - I see... - feet's too big 14:25:30 10/25/06 (0)
  - Re: It shouldn't be a battle, a debate sure. - thetubeguy1954 10:39:13 10/24/06 (55)
    - Re: It shouldn't be a battle, a debate sure. - Robert Hamel 12:35:37 10/24/06 (1)
      - Re: It shouldn't be a battle, a debate sure. - thetubeguy1954 12:52:50 10/24/06 (0)
    - Phil Tower Redux - Soundmind 12:01:03 10/24/06 (52)
      - Re: Phil Tower Redux - Phil Tower 18:19:24 10/27/06 (0)
      - Unsoundmind, My Response - thetubeguy1954 13:08:07 10/24/06 (39)
        
        Re: Unsoundmind, My Response - john curl 20:15:33 10/24/06 (29)
        
        Quite. But take heart, it only betrays a deep insecurity within himself. nt - clarkjohnsen 09:50:32 10/25/06 (0)
        
        Re: Unsoundmind, My Response - Soundmind 04:36:16 10/25/06 (27)
        
        Re: Unsoundmind, My Response - john curl 06:57:49 10/25/06 (26)
        
        Every time you open your mouth, you just stick both of your feet in it deeper and deeper - Soundmind 07:08:26 10/25/06 (25)
        
        Re: Every time you open your mouth, you just stick both of your feet in it deeper and deeper - john curl 08:15:08 10/25/06 (24)
        
        You just don't get it. The time for the technical discussion of this topic ended three and a half weeks ago - Soundmind 08:26:57 10/25/06 (23)
        
        Re: You just don't get it. The time for the technical discussion of this topic ended three and a half weeks ago - john curl 11:49:57 10/25/06 (22)
        
        You can't change history that easily, silly. - jneutron 09:50:59 10/26/06 (0)
        
        John, John - E-Stat 08:49:08 10/26/06 (16)
        
        Re: John, John - john curl 10:01:53 10/26/06 (0)
        
        "We should rejoice in this continuing source of levity." There ya go! nt - clarkjohnsen 09:00:42 10/26/06 (14)
        
        I know I can, just by re-reading John Curl's "serious discussion" with May Belt about cables - Soundmind 14:25:54 10/26/06 (13)
        
        No surprise here - E-Stat 05:43:43 10/27/06 (10)
        
        You would be best off..... - Soundmind 06:11:01 10/27/06 (9)
        
        Why certainly - E-Stat 06:31:04 10/27/06 (8)
        
        Re: Why certainly - Soundmind 06:48:35 10/27/06 (7)
        
        R-E-A-D---M-O-R-E---S-L-O-W-L-Y - E-Stat 06:59:23 10/27/06 (6)
        
        T-H-I-N-K---M-O-R-E---C-L-E-A-R-L-Y - Soundmind 07:12:42 10/27/06 (5)
        
        Still missing the point - E-Stat 07:52:56 10/27/06 (4)
        
        You're wrong as usual - Soundmind 08:36:01 10/27/06 (3)
        
        Exactly - E-Stat 09:01:24 10/27/06 (2)
        
        Re: Exactly - Soundmind 09:12:57 10/27/06 (1)
        
        Gotcha. Have no idea as to the meaning of "qualitative" (nt) - E-Stat 09:24:23 10/27/06 (0)
        
        Re: I know I can, just by re-reading John Curl's "serious discussion" with May Belt about cables - john curl 21:35:32 10/26/06 (1)
        
        Re: I know I can, just by re-reading John Curl's "serious discussion" with May Belt about cables - Soundmind 05:22:06 10/27/06 (0)
        
        Normally I'd ignore your obsessive focus on this topic but I have a question for you - Soundmind 12:36:06 10/25/06 (3)
        
        Re: Normally I'd ignore your obsessive focus on this topic but I have a question for you - john curl 14:35:11 10/25/06 (2)
        
        Re: Normally I'd ignore your obsessive focus on this topic but I have a question for you - Soundmind 07:26:27 10/26/06 (0)
        
        Re: Normally I'd ignore your obsessive focus on this topic but I have a question for you - john curl 15:46:13 10/25/06 (0)
        
        Re: Unsoundmind, My Response - Soundmind 13:27:56 10/24/06 (8)
        
        EVERYONE Should Read This & Unsoundminds Previous Posts. - thetubeguy1954 13:53:39 10/24/06 (7)
        
        Been there, didn't do that - Soundmind 14:12:26 10/24/06 (6)
        
        Re: Been there, didn't do that - Pat D 12:28:40 10/25/06 (5)
        
        Re: Been there, didn't do that - Soundmind 12:56:02 10/25/06 (4)
        
        "I do admit I did a lot of fighting with a lot of people..." - robert young 14:11:56 10/25/06 (3)
        
        I don't have a vendetta. That has nothing to do with not putting up with bullshit from morons - Soundmind 14:19:16 10/25/06 (2)
        
        You're right. - robert young 14:32:25 10/25/06 (1)
        
        Re: You're right. - Soundmind 14:51:21 10/25/06 (0)
      - Did you read the part about Tubeguy's "mobility?" - robert young 12:41:02 10/24/06 (10)
        
        Lack of mobility only means lack of a life if you want it that way - Soundmind 13:11:59 10/24/06 (9)
        
        Bully for you, Soundmind. - robert young 13:57:53 10/24/06 (8)
        
        Re: Bully for you, Soundmind. - thetubeguy1954 14:24:34 10/24/06 (2)
        
        At the end of the day... - robert young 14:41:13 10/24/06 (0)
        
        Re: Bully for you, Soundmind. - Soundmind 14:34:12 10/24/06 (0)
        
        Re: Bully for you, Soundmind. - Soundmind 14:19:30 10/24/06 (4)
        
        Yes, there's enough blame to go around... - robert young 14:32:20 10/24/06 (3)
        
        Re: Yes, there's enough blame to go around... - Soundmind 14:46:08 10/24/06 (2)
        
        Just another moniker... - robert young 15:44:11 10/24/06 (1)
        
        Re: Just another moniker... - Soundmind 15:55:31 10/24/06 (0)
- Tubular sez::::::: "Lunatic Fringe Objectivists (RBG, Pat D, AJinFLA, Phil Tower, Soundmind & andy19191 to name a few) " - Richard BassNut Greene 08:07:09 10/24/06 (6)
  - Unfortunately I didn't make Nixon's enemies list. This isn't much but it's at least slight consolation nt - Soundmind 08:54:20 10/24/06 (5)
    - We should all apologize to TubeGuy because I think we hurt his feelings - Richard BassNut Greene 09:23:06 10/24/06 (4)
      - No Apologizes Needed & Thanks For The Kind Words. - thetubeguy1954 10:16:15 10/24/06 (3)
        
        This is getting really disgusting. I'm putting my boots on, before you know it we'll be waist deep in it..... nt - Soundmind 12:03:56 10/24/06 (2)
        
        You're Disgusting. - thetubeguy1954 13:10:16 10/24/06 (1)
        
        Now that's the boob tubeguy we've come to know nt - Soundmind 13:13:31 10/24/06 (0)
- people who do objective experiments find they can't hear as well as they previously assumed - Richard BassNut Greene 07:52:53 10/24/06 (6)
  - The Nut loves his 'parlor tricks'.- "they're proof"...LOL!..(nt) - mkuller 10:58:40 10/24/06 (1)
    - Taunt All You Want - thetubeguy1954 12:51:31 10/24/06 (0)
  - Re: people who do objective experiments find they can't hear as well as they previously assumed - thetubeguy1954 08:00:04 10/24/06 (3)
    - You "walk away" from a debate on wires = you lose the debate - Richard BassNut Greene 08:25:47 10/24/06 (2)
      - Re: You "walk away" from a debate on wires = you lose the debate - kerr 08:48:33 10/24/06 (1)
        
        What does that mean, don't go away mad, just go away? There's plenty more to argue with where he came from - Soundmind 08:52:39 10/24/06 (0)
- Well, you tried! - kerr 06:43:15 10/24/06 (16)
  - Yes, I Tried - thetubeguy1954 07:12:20 10/24/06 (15)
    - You've been trying for the longest time. Some of us hope you've finally given up... - Soundmind 07:46:48 10/24/06 (14)
      - Re: You've been trying for the longest time. Some of us hope you've finally given up... - thetubeguy1954 07:55:32 10/24/06 (13)
        
        Re: You've been trying for the longest time. Some of us hope you've finally given up... - Soundmind 08:39:05 10/24/06 (12)
        
        "Real" audiophiles use speaker magnets on their refrigerators - Richard BassNut Greene 09:04:52 10/24/06 (1)
        
        Re: "Real" audiophiles use speaker magnets on their refrigerators - Soundmind 12:12:47 10/24/06 (0)
        
        Re: You've been trying for the longest time. Some of us hope you've finally given up... - thetubeguy1954 08:45:24 10/24/06 (9)
        
        You know what your problem is tube boob, you have no sense of humor, no none at all nt - Soundmind 08:55:45 10/24/06 (8)
        
        Not True - thetubeguy1954 10:46:50 10/24/06 (7)
        
        It seems to me you've done plenty of your own share of mud slinging here too - Soundmind 12:09:44 10/24/06 (6)
        
        Unsoundmind Would Rather Argue Than Build A Bridge So He Continues His Mud Slinging! - thetubeguy1954 13:12:11 10/24/06 (5)
        
        And here I thought only your physical mobility was restricted - Soundmind 13:15:25 10/24/06 (4)
        
        My New & Improved ONLY Unsoundmind Response - thetubeguy1954 14:00:47 10/24/06 (3)
        
        Re: My New & Improved ONLY Unsoundmind Response - Soundmind 14:23:44 10/24/06 (2)
        
        Re: My New & Improved ONLY Unsoundmind Response - thetubeguy1954 14:28:40 10/24/06 (1)
        
        Re: My New & Improved ONLY Unsoundmind Response - Soundmind 14:50:08 10/24/06 (0)
- My goal in life . . . - markrohr 03:42:43 10/24/06 (0)
- Have a nice life. (nt) - Pat D 18:59:35 10/23/06 (1)
  - You As Well Pat (nt) - thetubeguy1954 08:01:05 10/24/06 (0)
- Yeah, until your next ranting post in about 5 minutes or so - AJinFLA 14:31:08 10/23/06 (10)
  - Believe What You Will -- That's Ok With Me! - thetubeguy1954 08:29:59 10/24/06 (0)
  - Truly below the belt and completely unnecessary. - robert young 19:39:29 10/23/06 (8)
    - Do you notice how he's *still* posting? - AJinFLA 14:57:22 10/24/06 (1)
      - I guess I'll have a go at responding to you. - robert young 15:39:40 10/24/06 (0)
    - "The arrogance and rudeness demonstrated by the holders of the audio 'truth'." The really funny part is... - clarkjohnsen 09:19:24 10/24/06 (5)
      - Yes Clark Kent - AJinFLA 15:10:38 10/24/06 (0)
      - I think both sides are to blame, even though... - robert young 14:22:56 10/24/06 (1)
        
        "... to be lectured to by a prick." Makes my day! And I can tell the story later. - clarkjohnsen 09:38:45 10/25/06 (0)
      - So that's your real problem Clark, and here I thought you were just deaf nt - Soundmind 13:39:13 10/24/06 (0)
      - "Regular guys" = people who agree 100% with you? (nt) - Richard BassNut Greene 09:27:49 10/24/06 (0)
- Thank God! Now be silent, I pray. - clifff 13:51:59 10/23/06 (4)
  - Accepted Clifff - thetubeguy1954 14:20:59 10/23/06 (3)
    - Forget all this stuff and go and enjoy your system and music! - clifff 15:26:38 10/23/06 (1)
      - Re: Forget all this stuff and go and enjoy your system and music! - thetubeguy1954 09:46:45 10/24/06 (0)
    - Ooops - AJinFLA 14:33:13 10/23/06 (0)
Phase and phono sections - lipmanl@hotmail.com 07:13:30 10/20/06 (3)
- The phase should come out in the wash - andy_c 08:34:47 10/20/06 (2)
  - Re: The phase should come out in the wash - lipmanl@hotmail.com 09:10:52 10/20/06 (1)
    - Re: The phase should come out in the wash - john curl 09:51:38 10/20/06 (0)
I thought this was supposed to be a Seriously Technical Forum. - Garth 22:32:41 10/19/06 (71)
- Sorry to be adding to the posts - kerr 06:58:45 10/20/06 (0)
- Re: I thought this was supposed to be a Seriously Technical Forum. - Don T 23:12:23 10/19/06 (69)
  - Re: I thought this was supposed to be a Seriously Technical Forum. - thetubeguy1954 05:51:56 10/20/06 (10)
    - Hey TG! Don T was responding to Garth's post, not one of yours . . . (nt) - Pat D 18:15:57 10/22/06 (7)
      - Re: Hey TG! Don T was responding to Garth's post, not one of yours . . . (nt) - thetubeguy1954 05:50:50 10/23/06 (6)
        
        I'm still waiting for your promised apology. - Pat D 08:22:14 10/23/06 (5)
        
        Proof Of Pat D's Many, Many LIES! - thetubeguy1954 09:47:38 10/23/06 (4)
        
        Already definitively refuted. And where's my apology? - Pat D 09:55:33 10/23/06 (3)
        
        LIAR - thetubeguy1954 10:27:27 10/23/06 (2)
        
        Promise breaker! And the count of apologies you owe me mounts up . . . - Pat D 12:05:48 10/23/06 (1)
        
        I know it is somtimes fun to bait the bear ... - clifff 13:02:04 10/23/06 (0)
    - What an ego! Who cares about your feelings toward DonT?? nt - Jacques 09:00:15 10/20/06 (1)
      - I Care! (nt) - thetubeguy1954 09:14:38 10/20/06 (0)
  - Asinine is as asinine does. You may top 100! (nt) - Garth 23:18:42 10/19/06 (57)
    - Forget asinine and forget trying to be sensitive..... - Don T 08:21:05 10/20/06 (10)
      - You talkin' to me? Question: - Garth 08:32:46 10/20/06 (9)
        
        Re: You talkin' to me? Question: - thetubeguy1954 09:17:14 10/20/06 (5)
        
        But he's cheap entertainment! (nt) - Garth 09:39:04 10/20/06 (4)
        
        Re: But he's cheap entertainment! (nt) - thetubeguy1954 09:49:33 10/20/06 (3)
        
        Yea obviously attacking my character provides you with cheap entertainment - Don T 09:54:12 10/22/06 (2)
        
        Re: Yea obviously attacking my character provides you with cheap entertainment - thetubeguy1954 05:52:42 10/23/06 (1)
        
        It provides ME with cheap entertainment ! .......................(nt) - Richard BassNut Greene 09:29:05 10/24/06 (0)
        
        Sure am - Don T 09:08:43 10/20/06 (2)
        
        Sorry! but at least you had something to bitch and whine about, no? :-) - Garth 09:22:49 10/20/06 (1)
        
        No! You're the one who started this crying baby thread? Remember? nt - Don T 16:53:22 10/20/06 (0)
    - For The Record.... - thetubeguy1954 06:11:29 10/20/06 (45)
      - Re: For The Record.... - Phil Tower 07:00:10 10/22/06 (18)
        
        Re: For The Record.... - thetubeguy1954 11:41:47 10/22/06 (17)
        
        Re: For The Record.... - andy19191 08:03:51 10/23/06 (0)
        
        Re: For The Record.... - kerr 06:06:05 10/23/06 (11)
        
        Re: For The Record.... - andy19191 09:38:54 10/23/06 (10)
        
        Re: For The Record.... - kerr 11:34:48 10/23/06 (9)
        
        Re: For The Record.... - andy19191 14:43:49 10/23/06 (8)
        
        Re: For The Record.... - kerr 06:00:30 10/24/06 (7)
        
        Re: For The Record.... - andy19191 03:30:33 10/25/06 (6)
        
        Re: For The Record.... - kerr 05:31:32 10/25/06 (5)
        
        Re: For The Record.... - andy19191 07:59:16 10/27/06 (4)
        
        Re: For The Record.... - kerr 17:50:46 10/28/06 (3)
        
        Re: For The Record.... - andy19191 00:51:24 10/30/06 (2)
        
        Re: For The Record.... - kerr 09:42:22 11/02/06 (1)
        
        Re: For The Record.... - andy19191 13:11:45 11/02/06 (0)
        
        Re: For The Record.... - Phil Tower 14:37:23 10/22/06 (3)
        
        Warning Warning Starting a "debate: with Tubular may be hazardous to your health! - Richard BassNut Greene 07:46:26 10/23/06 (2)
        
        Don't get sucked into betting with these guys! - Atexanathome 17:12:54 10/23/06 (0)
        
        I couldn't have said it better myself (nt) - Phil Tower 07:54:09 10/23/06 (0)
      - Incorrect - Lynn 07:12:24 10/20/06 (24)
        
        Re: Incorrect - Soundmind 09:17:28 10/21/06 (0)
        
        Re: Incorrect - theaudiohobby 03:40:58 10/21/06 (0)
        
        It's YOU who's Incorrect Lynn - thetubeguy1954 08:15:41 10/20/06 (18)
        
        Then we have the sad case of Jim Austin who writes *knowingly* and "objectively" about... - clarkjohnsen 10:30:20 10/20/06 (1)
        
        Re: Then we have the sad case of Jim Austin who writes *knowingly* and "objectively" about... - Pat D 17:47:19 10/21/06 (0)
        
        Aha - AJinFLA 10:11:23 10/20/06 (15)
        
        Re: Aha - Steve Eddy 00:00:32 10/21/06 (3)
        
        Re: Aha - AJinFLA 08:02:55 10/21/06 (2)
        
        Re: Aha - Steve Eddy 08:56:53 10/21/06 (1)
        
        Re: Aha - AJinFLA 10:14:56 10/21/06 (0)
        
        Re: Aha - thetubeguy1954 10:58:02 10/20/06 (10)
        
        No, thank YOU... - AJinFLA 16:41:14 10/20/06 (8)
        
        AJinFLA's Reading Is 0% ((( As Evidenced In This Post ))) - thetubeguy1954 08:50:36 10/23/06 (0)
        
        Re: No, thank YOU... - thetubeguy1954 10:31:44 10/21/06 (6)
        
        Re: No, thank YOU... - AJinFLA 18:33:08 10/22/06 (0)
        
        TG54, that rancorous poseur is not worth tangling with. And be glad he won't... - clarkjohnsen 10:59:16 10/22/06 (4)
        
        Re: TG54, that rancorous poseur is not worth tangling with. And be glad he won't... - AJinFLA 18:47:34 10/22/06 (3)
        
        That Rancorous Poseur AJinFLA Is NOT Worth Tangling With, Oh how I know that now! - thetubeguy1954 08:07:37 10/23/06 (2)
        
        I don't believe you can do that -- because I don't know whether you can, or not! - clarkjohnsen 08:39:37 10/23/06 (1)
        
        Re: I don't believe you can do that -- because I don't know whether you can, or not! - AJinFLA 09:57:31 10/23/06 (0)
        
        Re: Aha - john curl 13:27:33 10/20/06 (0)
        
        "I for one would like a subjectivist free policy in prop head" - Richard BassNut Greene 07:27:01 10/20/06 (1)
        
        Well said. (nt) - robert young 13:11:43 10/20/06 (0)
        
        Well put. I wish I were as eloquent. nt - clifff 07:25:17 10/20/06 (0)
      - Take it up with Don T - Garth 06:38:51 10/20/06 (0)
A Real Simple Math Quiz - Let's Make a Deal - Don T 21:29:27 10/19/06 (26)
- What you forget is ... - csero 11:55:58 10/21/06 (1)
  - this is just silly - tunenut 19:24:18 10/21/06 (0)
- Yes, but... - E-Stat 06:35:51 10/20/06 (1)
  - Re: Yes, but... - Don T 23:26:53 10/20/06 (0)
- it's an old one - tunenut 22:01:21 10/19/06 (21)
  - Re: it's an old one - Don T 23:20:01 10/20/06 (20)
    - what's confusing about it - tunenut 16:02:22 10/21/06 (19)
      - That's wrong! - Don T 09:31:41 10/24/06 (18)
        
        I'm sorry but you are incorrect - tunenut 19:15:15 10/24/06 (17)
        
        No I'm not! - Don T 17:42:23 10/25/06 (16)
        
        you are close but not correct - tunenut 19:29:36 10/25/06 (15)
        
        That's not the right way to count! - Don T 21:17:10 10/25/06 (14)
        
        I guess I will have to quit - tunenut 21:27:20 10/25/06 (13)
        
        Re: I guess I will have to quit - Don T 00:20:28 10/26/06 (12)
        
        Re: I guess I will have to quit - tunenut 07:19:05 10/26/06 (11)
        
        Re: I guess I will have to quit - Don T 11:56:28 10/26/06 (2)
        
        Re: I guess I will have to quit - tunenut 18:20:39 10/26/06 (1)
        
        Re: I guess I will have to quit - Don T 23:12:00 10/26/06 (0)
        
        Re: I guess I will have to quit - Don T 08:25:01 10/26/06 (7)
        
        here is your logical fallacy - tunenut 10:07:27 10/26/06 (6)
        
        It's still wrong. - Don T 11:41:47 10/26/06 (5)
        
        Please answer my three questions (NT) - tunenut 11:44:56 10/26/06 (4)
        
        Re: Please answer my three questions (NT) - Don T 12:04:12 10/26/06 (3)
        
        Re: Please answer my three questions (NT) - tunenut 12:45:51 10/26/06 (2)
        
        LOL! - Don T 13:53:35 10/26/06 (1)
        
        Re: LOL! - tunenut 05:59:23 10/29/06 (0)
Anyone Seen This Post? - thetubeguy1954 13:22:46 10/16/06 (210)
- Since when are tweaks necessary for great recording? - Atexanathome 16:54:31 10/23/06 (0)
- No it's not asinine but your post does fit that bill. So now you know! - Don T 21:36:12 10/19/06 (0)
- Everything in audio makes a difference - Russ57 05:09:42 10/19/06 (9)
  - Re: Everything in audio makes a difference - hitsware 19:18:29 10/19/06 (0)
  - Re: Everything in audio makes a difference - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 17:57:34 10/19/06 (7)
    - Not Everything in audio makes a difference - Dan Banquer 13:22:57 10/21/06 (0)
    - Re: typo - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 18:00:01 10/19/06 (5)
      - Re: typo - john curl 19:27:59 10/19/06 (4)
        
        And just like my palate is never touchy about what wine gets poured down it, so long as it's 12-14% business. nt - clarkjohnsen 08:50:17 10/23/06 (0)
        
        Re: typo - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 19:54:13 10/19/06 (2)
        
        No they don't ! Perfect objects of pride for a perfect world - Jacques 03:05:03 10/20/06 (0)
        
        Yep, that's true - unclestu52 20:57:45 10/19/06 (0)
- Re: Anyone Seen This Post? - andy19191 01:31:45 10/19/06 (8)
  - "Why if these high profit margin audio products work as claimed.. - AJinFLA 17:04:46 10/19/06 (7)
    - Funny. - Dave Pogue 17:33:34 10/19/06 (6)
      - You bet (nt) - AJinFLA 18:31:01 10/19/06 (1)
        
        Your agreement is noted - Dave Pogue 18:40:06 10/19/06 (0)
      - Funny? - Dan Banquer 17:57:10 10/19/06 (3)
        
        Re: Funny? - Dave Pogue 18:21:28 10/19/06 (2)
        
        Wire Directionality? - Dan Banquer 04:25:25 10/20/06 (1)
        
        Really? - Dave Pogue 04:39:32 10/20/06 (0)
- Snake Oil being sold by someone with 10 PhD's is, umm, Snake Oil - AJinFLA 19:10:09 10/17/06 (109)
  - Truth Spoken By Any Man Is Still The Truth - thetubeguy1954 08:23:34 10/18/06 (104)
    - The manufacturers who *actually* prey on people are named Sony, Panasonic, Bose, Pioneer... they deliver CR*P! nt - clarkjohnsen 08:47:19 10/18/06 (95)
      - Perfect Sound Forever - WinthorpeIII 07:43:16 10/23/06 (1)
        
        ...and better, and better, and.... nt - clarkjohnsen 08:00:17 10/23/06 (0)
      - Re: The manufacturers who *actually* prey on people are named Sony, Panasonic, Bose, Pioneer... they deliver CR*P! nt - thetubeguy1954 09:14:32 10/18/06 (50)
        
        "I cannot believe the disservice people like RBG do to the newbies." Believe it! nt - clarkjohnsen 09:58:27 10/18/06 (49)
        
        It's oh so easy to claim every component sounds different when you never have to prove it - Richard BassNut Greene 08:44:17 10/19/06 (48)
        
        Re: It's oh so easy to claim every component sounds different when you never have to prove it - Soundmind 05:58:21 10/22/06 (0)
        
        It's Even Easier To Deny Component Sounds Different When You'll Never Accept The Offer To Have It Proven! - thetubeguy1954 08:54:01 10/19/06 (46)
        
        So now I'm: "King of the Lunatic Fringe Objectivists" -- I always wanted to be king of my castle - Richard BassNut Greene 09:27:13 10/19/06 (45)
        
        What's the difference between these statements? - kerr 10:09:45 10/19/06 (33)
        
        Re: What's the difference between these statements? - andy19191 14:53:23 10/19/06 (20)
        
        Re: What's the difference between these statements? - kerr 04:18:56 10/20/06 (19)
        
        "I find your attempts at insults humorous. " - Richard BassNut Greene 07:50:10 10/20/06 (3)
        
        Get Real or Truthful At Least - thetubeguy1954 09:34:22 10/20/06 (1)
        
        Tubular you have turned into a junkyard dog with his jaws clamped down on my pants cuff (and won't let go ... - Richard BassNut Greene 12:29:00 10/21/06 (0)
        
        Re: "I find your attempts at insults humorous. " - kerr 09:21:44 10/20/06 (0)
        
        Re: What's the difference between these statements? - andy19191 06:17:32 10/20/06 (14)
        
        Re: What's the difference between these statements? - kerr 06:56:10 10/20/06 (13)
        
        Re: What's the difference between these statements? - andy19191 08:23:01 10/20/06 (12)
        
        Understood (nt) - kerr 09:25:18 10/20/06 (0)
        
        Come & Be Astounded - thetubeguy1954 09:13:44 10/20/06 (10)
        
        Re: Come & Be Astounded - andy19191 12:40:33 10/20/06 (7)
        
        Re: Come & Be Astounded - thetubeguy1954 14:24:22 10/20/06 (6)
        
        Are you now comparing yourself to Einstein? - Richard BassNut Greene 12:57:54 10/21/06 (2)
        
        Are You Really This Stupid? - thetubeguy1954 17:38:32 10/21/06 (1)
        
        Lighten up Tubular -- that was a joke and a very funny one too .... - Richard BassNut Greene 07:50:22 10/23/06 (0)
        
        Words to live by - kerr 18:04:17 10/20/06 (2)
        
        And how are we suffering? - Atexanathome 17:05:02 10/23/06 (1)
        
        Re: And how are we suffering? - kerr 08:56:58 10/24/06 (0)
        
        Didn't P.T. Barnum say something like that? (nt) - AJinFLA 09:44:37 10/20/06 (1)
        
        Hey! That was going to be MY line!!!! - Pat D 18:08:59 10/21/06 (0)
        
        If many audiophiles have trouble differentiating among components with brand names hidden ... - Richard BassNut Greene 13:35:06 10/19/06 (11)
        
        LYING RBG - thetubeguy1954 10:40:10 10/21/06 (0)
        
        Umm.... - kerr 04:23:00 10/20/06 (7)
        
        The only way to be SURE you can hear wire differences is to demonstrate your skill to witnesses - Richard BassNut Greene 07:18:18 10/20/06 (6)
        
        LYING RBG - thetubeguy1954 08:51:13 10/20/06 (5)
        
        Still one man's claims as "proof" -- are all the alleged witnesses to your claimed extraordinary hearing skills dead? - Richard BassNut Greene 09:29:02 10/20/06 (4)
        
        Ranting RBG (((Kerr Read This))) - thetubeguy1954 09:46:55 10/20/06 (3)
        
        Please make up your mind -- Am I ranting or am I lying or am I ranting AND lying -- people want to know - Richard BassNut Greene 12:44:23 10/21/06 (2)
        
        You Are Both - thetubeguy1954 17:49:19 10/21/06 (1)
        
        Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but everyone is not entitled to his own facts - Richard BassNut Greene 08:22:32 10/23/06 (0)
        
        Another Rant From RBG (( Kerr Read This ))) - thetubeguy1954 14:01:13 10/19/06 (1)
        
        Tubular you responded twice to my post -- which attack post should I read first ? - Richard BassNut Greene 12:47:05 10/21/06 (0)
        
        Don't Worry You Are, In Ranting RBG World! - thetubeguy1954 09:43:06 10/19/06 (10)
        
        In 40 years as an audiophile I've never heard a subjectivist say "I can't hear a difference between these two components - Richard BassNut Greene 13:44:52 10/19/06 (9)
        
        Your string is broken! ;-( - markrohr 03:54:24 10/20/06 (6)
        
        What Subjectivist Would Hang With RBG? - thetubeguy1954 08:56:39 10/20/06 (2)
        
        I would . . . - markrohr 12:27:57 10/20/06 (1)
        
        Sorry to disappoint you but I never argue about audio in person -- only on-line with WireNuts for entertainment - Richard BassNut Greene 12:55:18 10/21/06 (0)
        
        I said I'd never heard it -- I didn't say I'd never read it - Richard BassNut Greene 07:40:50 10/20/06 (1)
        
        Actually, the way I'd put #2 - markrohr 12:20:51 10/20/06 (0)
        
        Just what a guitarist loves to hear! :) - kerr 05:14:34 10/20/06 (0)
        
        PLEASE Tell Me You Are Not This Stupid! - thetubeguy1954 14:26:00 10/19/06 (1)
        
        You Are Not This Stupid - Richard BassNut Greene 07:34:12 10/20/06 (0)
      - Yes Clark, to you, a $100 bottle of Fluoride is a much better value than a $100 Sony CDP LOL(nt) - AJinFLA 09:14:07 10/18/06 (41)
        
        Coward! - thetubeguy1954 09:18:35 10/18/06 (40)
        
        I didn't go see the image of the virgin mary on the side of that building, nor do I stay up late for Santa either. - AJinFLA 13:49:59 10/18/06 (37)
        
        Nor Do You Know The Truth About Wire & You Haven't The Guts To Learn It Either! - thetubeguy1954 17:21:25 10/18/06 (36)
        
        Look - AJinFLA 18:57:40 10/18/06 (35)
        
        Re: Look - john curl 21:33:24 10/18/06 (34)
        
        Wrong - AJinFLA 04:06:02 10/19/06 (33)
        
        It YOU Who's Wrong AJ - thetubeguy1954 08:15:14 10/19/06 (19)
        
        Re: It YOU Who's Wrong AJ - AJinFLA 15:02:09 10/19/06 (12)
        
        AJinFLA's Moronic & Cowardly Response - thetubeguy1954 07:38:13 10/20/06 (11)
        
        You forgot to take the slow deep breaths I suggested - AJinFLA 09:57:34 10/20/06 (10)
        
        Keep It Up! - thetubeguy1954 11:22:48 10/20/06 (9)
        
        How quickly you have descended to questioning the size of someone's gonads. - clifff 12:13:59 10/20/06 (8)
        
        Re: How quickly you have descended to lecturing others when you also insult to provoke! - thetubeguy1954 14:16:14 10/20/06 (5)
        
        So now I am an "Ignorant Piece of Shit"! - clifff 15:04:05 10/20/06 (4)
        
        Re: So now I am an "Ignorant Piece of Shit"! - thetubeguy1954 17:01:42 10/20/06 (3)
        
        Do I sound bothered? nt - clifff 02:32:45 10/21/06 (2)
        
        Rule no. 1: It's OK for TG54 to insult people. It's NOT- OK for you to point it out. - Pat D 08:36:48 10/23/06 (0)
        
        Yes You Did! (nt) - thetubeguy1954 17:50:31 10/21/06 (0)
        
        It was logically inevitable - AJinFLA 13:22:41 10/20/06 (1)
        
        Re: It was logically inevitable - thetubeguy1954 17:59:47 10/21/06 (0)
        
        "...staying up late for Santa." Yes, it's a coward's defense and a snarky one at that. - clarkjohnsen 08:54:20 10/19/06 (5)
        
        EXACTLY! - thetubeguy1954 09:31:42 10/19/06 (4)
        
        Re: EXACTLY! - john curl 10:58:58 10/19/06 (1)
        
        Ask AJinFLA That's His Beliefs! - thetubeguy1954 11:13:40 10/19/06 (0)
        
        "You would think AJinFLA would jump at the chance." Actually, no, I wouldn't. - clarkjohnsen 09:43:41 10/19/06 (1)
        
        Nor Was I, I Was Being Facetious. - thetubeguy1954 11:11:57 10/19/06 (0)
        
        Do you represent objectivists in general? - kerr 06:05:04 10/19/06 (12)
        
        I represent myself - AJinFLA 15:21:59 10/19/06 (1)
        
        Er... ok. - kerr 04:29:28 10/20/06 (0)
        
        "Or is it just you?" LOL! You perfectly well know the answer. nt - clarkjohnsen 08:56:10 10/19/06 (2)
        
        Seriously, I don't - kerr 09:53:57 10/19/06 (1)
        
        OF COURSE you know the answer; we all do. nt - clarkjohnsen 09:58:00 10/19/06 (0)
        
        YES It Is! - thetubeguy1954 08:36:53 10/19/06 (6)
        
        Re: YES It Is! - kerr 09:52:08 10/19/06 (5)
        
        Come On Down - thetubeguy1954 11:18:06 10/19/06 (4)
        
        Okay, I must ask... - andy_c 19:36:43 10/19/06 (1)
        
        Re: Okay, I must ask... - thetubeguy1954 09:19:03 10/20/06 (0)
        
        Will do! - kerr 11:34:06 10/19/06 (1)
        
        OK! - thetubeguy1954 12:29:22 10/19/06 (0)
        
        "The cheeks of your disbelief." Phrasemaker! nt - clarkjohnsen 10:00:17 10/18/06 (1)
        
        It's That Little Old Phrasemaker-- Me! nt - thetubeguy1954 10:35:38 10/18/06 (0)
    - BS Spoken By A PhD Is Still BS - Richard BassNut Greene 08:39:57 10/18/06 (7)
      - Truth Spoken By Any Man Is Still The Truth - thetubeguy1954 10:32:56 10/18/06 (1)
        
        "Extraordinary hearing ability" is the claimed ability to differentiate among virtually all wires and electronics - Richard BassNut Greene 07:56:12 10/20/06 (0)
      - You don't need a PHD to pass on BS (NT) - unclestu52 09:26:24 10/18/06 (4)
        
        Nor To Speak The Truth (NT) - thetubeguy1954 10:37:01 10/18/06 (0)
        
        No, but it helps. ;-) nt - markrohr 10:17:49 10/18/06 (2)
        
        Just so you know... - Wellfed 00:01:44 10/19/06 (1)
        
        George Orwell once said - markrohr 04:30:34 10/19/06 (0)
  - My preferred statement from Sprey is: - Jacques 01:41:40 10/18/06 (3)
    - Re: My preferred statement from Sprey is: - john curl 10:53:50 10/18/06 (2)
      - Cleaners - Jacques 12:50:26 10/18/06 (1)
        
        Re: Cleaners - john curl 15:48:14 10/18/06 (0)
- Mapleshade "free tweaks" range from bizarre to very useful -- I've never heard their wires - Richard BassNut Greene 09:50:09 10/17/06 (3)
  - Re: Mapleshade "free tweaks" range from bizarre to very useful -- I've never heard their wires - Awe-d-o-file 12:41:38 10/17/06 (2)
    - Re: Mapleshade "free tweaks" range from bizarre to very useful -- I've never heard their wires - kerr 15:30:31 10/17/06 (1)
      - Re: Mapleshade "free tweaks" range from bizarre to very useful -- I've never heard their wires - Lynn 18:23:49 10/17/06 (0)
- Pierre's claims... - kerr 06:36:44 10/17/06 (36)
  - "He adds to the rift... rather than seeking to bridge it." Hmm... - clarkjohnsen 09:13:20 10/17/06 (35)
    - I have most of his cds and have tried most of his and Ron Bouman's wires and tweaks. - Norm 06:36:30 10/18/06 (3)
      - I've gone pretty much the same direction... so we must be right! nt - clarkjohnsen 08:42:01 10/18/06 (2)
        
        Yeah, Grate minds think alike - AJinFLA 19:39:11 10/18/06 (1)
        
        With all apologies due to others that share my subjectivist leanings... - kerr 05:52:50 10/19/06 (0)
    - Re: "He adds to the rift... rather than seeking to bridge it." Hmm... - Steve Eddy 10:05:14 10/17/06 (19)
      - Here I thought that advanced degrees would appeal to "objectivists". Turns out, however... - clarkjohnsen 10:12:21 10/17/06 (18)
        
        I haven't yet met an objectivist... - Jim Austin 14:19:46 10/17/06 (12)
        
        "Objectivists" like yourself render judgements without benefit of listening; subjectivists listen. - clarkjohnsen 14:42:30 10/17/06 (11)
        
        Clueless Clark: "Objectivists" compare components without the bias of knowing brand names and having different SPL's - Richard BassNut Greene 15:00:37 10/17/06 (10)
        
        Ranting RBG: What Objectivists Call Extraordinary Hearing Ability A Subjectivists Calls A Trained Ear! - thetubeguy1954 10:44:00 10/18/06 (6)
        
        Aczel said that??? - kerr 11:27:48 10/18/06 (5)
        
        Re: Aczel said that??? - thetubeguy1954 12:07:01 10/18/06 (4)
        
        Re: Aczel said that??? - kerr 05:49:08 10/19/06 (3)
        
        Of course, it's basic to Aczel's POV. - Pat D 18:24:35 10/21/06 (2)
        
        Yes, you're correct - kerr 07:20:15 10/23/06 (1)
        
        Any specific criticisms? (nt) - Pat D 18:48:00 10/23/06 (0)
        
        Should I merely assume... - Wellfed 22:35:59 10/17/06 (2)
        
        Re: Should I merely assume... - kerr 04:53:48 10/18/06 (1)
        
        False negatives! Great thought. Objectivists don't have a clue what that would be. nt - Norm 16:12:02 10/18/06 (0)
        
        Re: Here I thought that advanced degrees would appeal to "objectivists". Turns out, however... - Steve Eddy 10:39:00 10/17/06 (4)
        
        *chirp* *chirp* *chirp* *chirp* *chirp* - Steve Eddy 14:56:29 10/17/06 (3)
        
        Re: *chirp* *chirp* *chirp* *chirp* *chirp* - Jim Austin 18:53:15 10/17/06 (2)
        
        Re: *chirp* *chirp* *chirp* *chirp* *chirp* - Steve Eddy 19:17:02 10/17/06 (1)
        
        I hope not - Jim Austin 19:23:17 10/17/06 (0)
    - PhD = Piled high and Deep -- very appropriate that he has two PhD's - Richard BassNut Greene 09:54:37 10/17/06 (1)
      - RBG = Realtime BS Generator - thetubeguy1954 12:03:20 10/18/06 (0)
    - See my post below to Tubeguy - kerr 09:35:44 10/17/06 (8)
      - So who ranked them? But the fact is... - clarkjohnsen 09:47:11 10/17/06 (0)
      - Re: See my post below to Tubeguy - Steve Eddy 09:45:02 10/17/06 (6)
        
        Re: See my post below to Tubeguy - kerr 11:19:25 10/17/06 (4)
        
        Re: See my post below to Tubeguy - Steve Eddy 11:59:53 10/17/06 (3)
        
        Re: See my post below to Tubeguy - kerr 15:25:53 10/17/06 (2)
        
        Re: See my post below to Tubeguy - Steve Eddy 17:56:37 10/18/06 (1)
        
        Re: See my post below to Tubeguy - kerr 10:13:08 10/19/06 (0)
        
        But that's a "worst case" evaluation. nt - clarkjohnsen 09:48:46 10/17/06 (0)
- Even Peter Aczel likes Mapleshade recordings. - Pat D 15:24:16 10/16/06 (1)
  - Yes. I have - clifff 15:34:15 10/16/06 (0)
- Interesting - clifff 13:46:09 10/16/06 (35)
  - Many of the tweaks evolved from the recording process - Dave Pogue 04:25:51 10/17/06 (0)
  - Re: Interesting - thetubeguy1954 14:04:58 10/16/06 (33)
    - I believe you ... - clifff 14:44:16 10/16/06 (32)
      - Quotes From Mapleshade's Mailed Cataloge - thetubeguy1954 06:47:03 10/17/06 (14)
        
        You picked all of the MOST bizzare claims in the catalog -- you just LOVE being on the audio lunatic fringe don't you? - Richard BassNut Greene 10:04:17 10/17/06 (5)
        
        How do you get the right to define the audio lunatic fringe. I would maintain that you are on it. nt - Norm 16:20:03 10/18/06 (1)
        
        Good Guess Norm! - thetubeguy1954 17:24:07 10/18/06 (0)
        
        Re: You picked all of the MOST bizzare claims in the catalog -- you just LOVE being on the audio lunatic fringe don't yo - thetubeguy1954 13:03:02 10/17/06 (2)
        
        TubeGuy sez:"WIRES ARE A COMPONENT JUST AS CRITICAL AS SPEAKERS " = Tube Guy is a certified audio wacko - Richard BassNut Greene 08:24:21 10/18/06 (1)
        
        RBG sez Subjectivists = Extraordinary Hearing Ability , Even Peter Aczel Denies This! RBG = Lunatic Fringe Objectivist - thetubeguy1954 10:54:49 10/18/06 (0)
        
        Do you believe the quote from Page 33? - kerr 08:53:46 10/17/06 (7)
        
        Yes, I Know It's True! - thetubeguy1954 09:40:56 10/17/06 (6)
        
        Re: Yes, I Know It's True! - kerr 11:25:19 10/17/06 (4)
        
        Re: Yes, I Know It's True! - thetubeguy1954 13:52:14 10/17/06 (3)
        
        Nicely synopsized. nt - clarkjohnsen 08:38:25 10/18/06 (0)
        
        Thanks for the clarification (nt) - kerr 15:27:38 10/17/06 (1)
        
        De Nada (nt) - thetubeguy1954 11:01:34 10/18/06 (0)
        
        You dare to *play by ear*? What are you, some kind of *musician*? This is *science* fella! Get with it. nt - clarkjohnsen 10:47:31 10/17/06 (0)
      - Thanks.... - thetubeguy1954 16:53:12 10/16/06 (16)
        
        Re: Thanks.... - john curl 20:56:54 10/16/06 (15)
        
        Re: Thanks.... - jneutron 08:12:34 10/17/06 (7)
        
        Re: Thanks.... - john curl 12:30:22 10/17/06 (6)
        
        Re: Thanks.... - Steve Eddy 14:21:38 10/17/06 (2)
        
        Yeah, just do it... - Wellfed 22:43:00 10/17/06 (1)
        
        Re: Yeah, just do it... - Steve Eddy 15:09:37 10/18/06 (0)
        
        Re: Thanks.... - jneutron 13:51:14 10/17/06 (2)
        
        Re: Thanks.... - john curl 10:58:38 10/18/06 (1)
        
        Your welcome. sorry I didn't have more for you. nt - jneutron 11:56:09 10/18/06 (0)
        
        JC: a Pearl Thrown In Manure - Jacques 01:20:09 10/17/06 (6)
        
        Re: JC: a Pearl Thrown In Manure - john curl 06:03:57 10/17/06 (5)
        
        Huh? - kerr 06:40:33 10/17/06 (4)
        
        Bravo Kerr! - thetubeguy1954 08:30:53 10/17/06 (3)
        
        It's simple, really - kerr 08:45:13 10/17/06 (2)
        
        Re: It's simple, really - bwaslo 09:08:36 10/17/06 (1)
        
        Re: It's simple, really - kerr 09:33:02 10/17/06 (0)
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