In Reply to: Re: Yes, I have heard 47 Labs and you haven't. posted by thetubeguy1954 on November 17, 2006 at 13:41:43:
No, unfortunately they were in different dealers' showrooms as so often happens when shopping, but both were well set up well away from the walls and driven by solid state amplifiers. I was using very familiar program material. Like the S2, the SF Cremona Auditors seemed to have no obvious colorations or anomalies in their sound other than the lack of deep bass, which I remedy with a subwoofer. It would be nice to be able to compare speakers directly but that is very often difficult to arrange, especially when one is traveling.I have been trying out my speakers with something closer to near field listening. The place my wife prefers them is not quite the best with some material, but I can move them forward when I want and this seems to work very well with the few recording with which I have tried it, mostly orchestral, I think, as vocals work well in either placement.
I should point out that I have nothing against tubes with the right speakers for them. The reasons I don't want them tend to be related to reliability, cost, consistency, and compatibility. With good solid state amps, I can be pretty sure that the frequency response I get from the speakers in the store will be very like their FR at home. There are also speakers that sound a lot better with solid state, the SF Concerto Grand Piano, for example, and a much lesser speaker, the Usher X-719 (which I didn't really like all that well anyway). Having an accurate, powerful amplifier with a low output impedance effectively removes a variable and once I get the speakers in the house, I don't have to shop around for an amp that makes them sound right. I think most speakers are designed with a low source impedance in mind, though there are some exceptions.
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Follow Ups
- Re: Yes, I have heard 47 Labs and you haven't. - Pat D 15:32:36 11/17/06 (30)
- Re: Yes, I have heard 47 Labs and you haven't. - thetubeguy1954 09:19:20 11/20/06 (29)
- Re: Yes, I have heard 47 Labs and you haven't. - Pat D 09:32:10 11/21/06 (28)
- OK Pat, But I Did Compare the Aliantes vs The Paradigm. - thetubeguy1954 11:36:55 11/21/06 (27)
- Re: OK Pat, But I Did Compare the Aliantes vs The Paradigm. - Pat D 14:48:57 11/21/06 (26)
- Re: OK Pat, But I Did Compare the Aliantes vs The Paradigm. - thetubeguy1954 08:16:42 11/22/06 (25)
- You keep on making up opinions and motives for me. I thought you were giving that up . . . - Pat D 21:29:04 11/22/06 (24)
- That's YOUR Interpretation, It's Not What I Said or Meant. - thetubeguy1954 13:20:10 11/27/06 (23)
- Nope! At this point I can read you like a book. (nt) - Pat D 15:38:17 11/27/06 (22)
- Pat You Believe You Can Read Me Just Like The Book Called War & Peace, After You've Read The Comic Book Version. - thetubeguy1954 09:39:21 11/29/06 (21)
- You haven't even heard the Sonus Faber Cremon Auditor - Pat D 10:56:13 11/29/06 (20)
- Nor Have I Ever Claimed To! - thetubeguy1954 13:20:07 11/29/06 (19)
- No, but you compare the SF Cremona Auditor to other speakers! - Pat D 15:00:49 11/29/06 (18)
- And I've Told You How & Why I did That Many Times Now... - thetubeguy1954 09:48:37 11/30/06 (17)
- Tom tries to justify comparing the sound of speakers he has never heard! - Pat D 00:50:02 12/01/06 (16)
- Pat tries to justify his disapproval of my opinion of the SF Cremona Auditor ! - thetubeguy1954 06:31:28 12/01/06 (15)
- Would you review a theatre performance you never attended? - Pat D 08:22:36 12/01/06 (14)
- Let It Go Pat, Let It Go - thetubeguy1954 13:16:36 12/01/06 (13)
- Hey, it's OK as long as Tom is "comfortable!" - Pat D 17:55:13 12/01/06 (12)
- You're Finally Getting It Pat - thetubeguy1954 18:16:54 12/03/06 (11)
- Irony is lost on you, I think. (nt) - Pat D 19:36:34 12/03/06 (10)
- It's Not Lost, I Just Don't Accept Your Version Of It - thetubeguy1954 12:53:42 12/04/06 (9)
- My concern is that you don't discuss logically. - Pat D 14:45:12 12/04/06 (8)
- Re: My concern is that you don't discuss logically. - thetubeguy1954 08:44:30 12/05/06 (7)
- Re: My concern is that you don't discuss logically. - Pat D 09:04:20 12/05/06 (6)
- Pat, Pat, Pat... - thetubeguy1954 06:35:18 12/06/06 (5)
- Cheap debating tricks? - Pat D 07:56:43 12/06/06 (4)
- Cheap debating tricks, are being used by you Pat! I Give Up... - thetubeguy1954 14:19:09 12/06/06 (3)
- Put up or shut up!. - Pat D 15:53:56 12/06/06 (2)
- Just Learn To Read Pat - thetubeguy1954 07:14:00 12/07/06 (1)
- No, in context, your remarks are to invalidly argue against my audio philosophy by bashing my system and choices! - Pat D 08:05:21 12/08/06 (0)