In Reply to: Re: Yes, I have heard 47 Labs and you haven't. posted by thetubeguy1954 on November 17, 2006 at 06:55:42:
I've never heard the Magico Mini; I have heard the SF Cremona Auditor, which is a very nice speaker which I thought sounded very similar to the Paradigm Signature S2 but at twice the cost.My use of the Stereophile Recommended Components ratings was simply to point out that some eminent reviewers regard them as very good speakers, by no means mid-fi. I don't have to accept the hype that Stereophile gives said ratings and I don't.
I know that a number of live vs. recorded demonstrations have been done. John Dunlavy did them. McIntosh apparently did them quite regularly to the general public, and I think Quad did some, too. They apparently have been very impressive. Please note I said they were demonstrations, not DBTs. But a demonstration in a large room, say a concert hall, is not a demonstration in a home environment, which would have quite different acoustics.
I am little interested in any reviewer's purely subjective remarks about the sound quality of electronics, except for signal processors, unless supported by objective data.
Since speakers demonstrably do sound different, I take some interest in the evaluations even of purely subjective reviewers and of course, audiophiles.
As for speakers reviewers, I find that reviewers such as John Atkinson, Andrew Marshall of AIG, Doug Schneider, Don Keele, Tom Nousaine, and Tom Lyle, like many of the same speakers I do. I note that all those include significant measured data in their reviews.
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Follow Ups
- Re: Yes, I have heard 47 Labs and you haven't. - Pat D 12:28:56 11/17/06 (32)
- Re: Yes, I have heard 47 Labs and you haven't. - thetubeguy1954 13:41:43 11/17/06 (31)
- Re: Yes, I have heard 47 Labs and you haven't. - Pat D 15:32:36 11/17/06 (30)
- Re: Yes, I have heard 47 Labs and you haven't. - thetubeguy1954 09:19:20 11/20/06 (29)
- Re: Yes, I have heard 47 Labs and you haven't. - Pat D 09:32:10 11/21/06 (28)
- OK Pat, But I Did Compare the Aliantes vs The Paradigm. - thetubeguy1954 11:36:55 11/21/06 (27)
- Re: OK Pat, But I Did Compare the Aliantes vs The Paradigm. - Pat D 14:48:57 11/21/06 (26)
- Re: OK Pat, But I Did Compare the Aliantes vs The Paradigm. - thetubeguy1954 08:16:42 11/22/06 (25)
- You keep on making up opinions and motives for me. I thought you were giving that up . . . - Pat D 21:29:04 11/22/06 (24)
- That's YOUR Interpretation, It's Not What I Said or Meant. - thetubeguy1954 13:20:10 11/27/06 (23)
- Nope! At this point I can read you like a book. (nt) - Pat D 15:38:17 11/27/06 (22)
- Pat You Believe You Can Read Me Just Like The Book Called War & Peace, After You've Read The Comic Book Version. - thetubeguy1954 09:39:21 11/29/06 (21)
- You haven't even heard the Sonus Faber Cremon Auditor - Pat D 10:56:13 11/29/06 (20)
- Nor Have I Ever Claimed To! - thetubeguy1954 13:20:07 11/29/06 (19)
- No, but you compare the SF Cremona Auditor to other speakers! - Pat D 15:00:49 11/29/06 (18)
- And I've Told You How & Why I did That Many Times Now... - thetubeguy1954 09:48:37 11/30/06 (17)
- Tom tries to justify comparing the sound of speakers he has never heard! - Pat D 00:50:02 12/01/06 (16)
- Pat tries to justify his disapproval of my opinion of the SF Cremona Auditor ! - thetubeguy1954 06:31:28 12/01/06 (15)
- Would you review a theatre performance you never attended? - Pat D 08:22:36 12/01/06 (14)
- Let It Go Pat, Let It Go - thetubeguy1954 13:16:36 12/01/06 (13)
- Hey, it's OK as long as Tom is "comfortable!" - Pat D 17:55:13 12/01/06 (12)
- You're Finally Getting It Pat - thetubeguy1954 18:16:54 12/03/06 (11)
- Irony is lost on you, I think. (nt) - Pat D 19:36:34 12/03/06 (10)
- It's Not Lost, I Just Don't Accept Your Version Of It - thetubeguy1954 12:53:42 12/04/06 (9)
- My concern is that you don't discuss logically. - Pat D 14:45:12 12/04/06 (8)
- Re: My concern is that you don't discuss logically. - thetubeguy1954 08:44:30 12/05/06 (7)
- Re: My concern is that you don't discuss logically. - Pat D 09:04:20 12/05/06 (6)
- Pat, Pat, Pat... - thetubeguy1954 06:35:18 12/06/06 (5)
- Cheap debating tricks? - Pat D 07:56:43 12/06/06 (4)
- Cheap debating tricks, are being used by you Pat! I Give Up... - thetubeguy1954 14:19:09 12/06/06 (3)
- Put up or shut up!. - Pat D 15:53:56 12/06/06 (2)
- Just Learn To Read Pat - thetubeguy1954 07:14:00 12/07/06 (1)
- No, in context, your remarks are to invalidly argue against my audio philosophy by bashing my system and choices! - Pat D 08:05:21 12/08/06 (0)