In Reply to: Re: Yet another last chapter of the GSIC saga! posted by Allan on June 22, 2005 at 10:26:26:
You would do well, not to impugn our motives for trying to understand the 'chip'. I'm curious, that's all. Geoff isn't deliberately lying about anything, and it is insulting that you imply that he is doing so.
Do we REALLY know what the chip is? NO! Is it for real? Seems so. Many people have heard it make a difference. Are they imagining it? Maybe. But then, so might be John Atkinson when he hears a difference between power amps. Do I trust John Atkinson's assessment of the Quad 405? Yes, because I know the design and its limitations. Can I prove John Atkinson right? NO, I can only agree with him.
This is the way it works folks. Audio is one area where the usual rules of design engineering are not quite enough. That's why I chuckle when I see diligent amateurs trying to make a better amplifier, cheaply. It happens on DIYaudio.com all the time. I just shrug and hope for some more interesting input from time to time.
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Follow Ups
- Re: Yet another last chapter of the GSIC saga! - john curl 10:58:25 06/22/05 (46)
- Laws of nature and engineeering rules - Jim Austin 12:09:41 06/24/05 (10)
- Re: Laws of nature and engineeering rules - john curl 14:32:43 06/24/05 (9)
- Re: Handy guide - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 22:09:30 06/27/05 (0)
- Not sure there is such a "handy guide"... - Jim Austin 04:50:18 06/27/05 (6)
- Re: Not sure there is such a "handy guide"... - john curl 17:29:19 07/04/05 (5)
- No reason why you should believe me John - Jim Austin 07:26:01 07/05/05 (4)
- Re: No reason why you should believe me John - geoffkait 08:20:25 07/05/05 (3)
- Re: No reason why you should believe me John - Jim Austin 08:40:16 07/05/05 (2)
- Re: No reason why you should believe me John - geoffkait 09:43:33 07/05/05 (1)
- Cynical? - Jim Austin 10:34:51 07/05/05 (1)
- Re: Laws of nature and engineeering rules - Steve Eddy 00:20:53 06/25/05 (0)
- Do you REALLY want to know what the chip is? NO. - KlausR. 00:22:39 06/23/05 (29)
- Re: Do you REALLY want to know what the chip is? NO. - john curl 07:25:03 06/23/05 (28)
- Does this sound like hypothesizing? - KlausR. 07:52:40 06/23/05 (27)
- The question begs asking... - Wellfed 09:11:35 06/23/05 (26)
- Even if I did have the chip examined... - KlausR. 00:56:09 06/24/05 (9)
- I wouldn't care... - Wellfed 12:37:46 07/01/05 (8)
- Then you are the perfect target... - KlausR. 22:04:18 07/01/05 (7)
- You presumably miss my point... - Wellfed 22:21:18 07/01/05 (6)
- I make you a proposal - KlausR. 05:19:40 07/02/05 (1)
- Sounds good... - Wellfed 20:12:15 07/02/05 (0)
- I don't think I've missed your point! - KlausR. 04:11:49 07/02/05 (3)
- Don't forget... - Wellfed 20:49:56 07/02/05 (2)
- Re: Don't forget... - john curl 22:26:22 07/03/05 (1)
- Encouragement/reinforcement. - soulfood 08:52:17 07/04/05 (0)
- there's no need - BS64 11:43:41 06/23/05 (11)
- Is that so?... - Wellfed 14:17:55 06/23/05 (10)
- "Don't you have anything better to do?" - BS64 15:32:05 06/23/05 (9)
- What is the context of your "gloating"?... - Wellfed 16:21:04 06/23/05 (8)
- Re: What is the context of your "gloating"?... - BS64 08:49:12 06/26/05 (7)
- I didn't tell Klaus to have the GSIC tested... - Wellfed 19:32:32 06/28/05 (6)
- "...given your level of interest in the subject, why don't YOU have the chip tested? " - BS64 10:28:12 07/01/05 (5)
- Your point being? [nt] - Wellfed 12:40:17 07/01/05 (4)
- you stated that you did not tell Klaus to have the chip tested - BS64 04:05:48 07/02/05 (3)
- Did not... - Wellfed 21:00:50 07/02/05 (2)
- did so - BS64 12:31:04 07/03/05 (1)
- Literally speaking... - Wellfed 23:13:33 07/04/05 (0)
- Hijacker! nt - bjh 10:33:14 06/23/05 (3)
- Serious question... - Wellfed 14:19:04 06/23/05 (2)
- No seriously I was interested in Curl's response - bjh 17:02:25 06/23/05 (1)
- No, I don't... - Wellfed 21:54:40 06/23/05 (0)
- Keep an open mind, John, you might learn something. - Al Sekela 16:48:17 06/22/05 (0)
- "Do we REALLY know what the chip is? NO!" - bjh 12:13:23 06/22/05 (0)
- Re: Yet another last chapter of the GSIC saga! - Allan 11:34:32 06/22/05 (1)
- "Clark has no more interest in integrity either." According to your minions... - clarkjohnsen 07:51:17 06/23/05 (0)
- "That's why I chuckle when..." That's what one must do with these people. nt - clarkjohnsen 11:03:04 06/22/05 (0)