In Reply to: Yet another last chapter of the GSIC saga! posted by KlausR. on June 22, 2005 at 06:11:07:
"Knowing liars or convinced ignorants?"That's the whole point of my post Klaus and it was never about whether the chip has an effect or not. When Geoff described the "unusual quilting" as evidence for his qarray nonsense, he did so knowing full well what it really was. His only intent by lying about it was to deceive. This discussion has nothing to do with whether the chip does anything; it has everything to do with the character of those selling the chip. If geoff is willing to try and deceive his buying public about this, what else is he deceiving them about?
If you want to give him the benefit of the doubt and say he's a "convinced ignorant" I won't argue that point:-) Either way, ignorant or liar, it makes him completely unqualified to explain the workings of the chip with even an ounce of credibilty.
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Follow Ups
- Re: Yet another last chapter of the GSIC saga! - Allan 10:26:26 06/22/05 (73)
- Geoff Kait - KlausR. 00:39:54 06/23/05 (25)
- Re: KlausR - geoffkait 08:04:23 06/23/05 (24)
- Bad memory, Geoff! - KlausR. 00:14:19 06/24/05 (23)
- Not that it matters, but... - Jim Austin 08:20:20 06/24/05 (1)
- What is relevant in this context is... - KlausR. 22:18:29 06/24/05 (0)
- Re: "I decided to avoid high end altogether." - geoffkait 04:54:23 06/24/05 (20)
- Deja vu, do you remember? - KlausR. 05:12:07 06/24/05 (19)
- Re: Exactly my point!... - geoffkait 05:44:17 06/24/05 (18)
- tweaks such as vibration isolation or Mr. Chip - jensw 21:06:28 06/28/05 (0)
- How relative is relative? - KlausR. 06:59:27 06/24/05 (14)
- "I don't think that [tweaks] can make my system any better." So much for *your* thinking! - clarkjohnsen 08:18:44 06/24/05 (1)
- I'm a twiiiker, yes a twiiiker I am! - KlausR. 00:03:53 06/25/05 (0)
- Re: Everything is relative, Grasshopper - geoffkait 07:15:18 06/24/05 (11)
- Re: Revenge of the DBTers attitude - Jim Willis 03:36:08 06/25/05 (10)
- Would someone please explain... - Jim Austin 08:38:08 06/27/05 (0)
- Re: Revenge of the DBTers attitude - john curl 17:58:50 06/25/05 (8)
- Re: Revenge of the DBTers attitude - john curl 21:32:27 06/25/05 (6)
- Re: Revenge of the DBTers attitude - Jim Willis 06:14:12 06/26/05 (5)
- Re: Revenge of the DBTers attitude - john curl 08:25:16 06/26/05 (4)
- Re: Revenge of the DBTers attitude - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 15:09:10 06/27/05 (1)
- I protest! They're brilliant! (Ahhhhh) nt - bjh 22:10:41 06/27/05 (0)
- Re: Revenge of the DBTers attitude - Jim Willis 11:08:10 06/26/05 (0)
- JSMR - KlausR. 09:13:45 06/26/05 (0)
- Re: Revenge of the DBTers attitude - Jim Willis 18:48:22 06/25/05 (0)
- Feelings... he has feelings... nt - clarkjohnsen 06:52:04 06/24/05 (1)
- Even better, Clark... - KlausR. 07:01:46 06/24/05 (0)
- Re: Yet another last chapter of the GSIC saga! - john curl 10:58:25 06/22/05 (46)
- Laws of nature and engineeering rules - Jim Austin 12:09:41 06/24/05 (10)
- Re: Laws of nature and engineeering rules - john curl 14:32:43 06/24/05 (9)
- Re: Handy guide - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 22:09:30 06/27/05 (0)
- Not sure there is such a "handy guide"... - Jim Austin 04:50:18 06/27/05 (6)
- Re: Not sure there is such a "handy guide"... - john curl 17:29:19 07/04/05 (5)
- No reason why you should believe me John - Jim Austin 07:26:01 07/05/05 (4)
- Re: No reason why you should believe me John - geoffkait 08:20:25 07/05/05 (3)
- Re: No reason why you should believe me John - Jim Austin 08:40:16 07/05/05 (2)
- Re: No reason why you should believe me John - geoffkait 09:43:33 07/05/05 (1)
- Cynical? - Jim Austin 10:34:51 07/05/05 (1)
- Re: Laws of nature and engineeering rules - Steve Eddy 00:20:53 06/25/05 (0)
- Do you REALLY want to know what the chip is? NO. - KlausR. 00:22:39 06/23/05 (29)
- Re: Do you REALLY want to know what the chip is? NO. - john curl 07:25:03 06/23/05 (28)
- Does this sound like hypothesizing? - KlausR. 07:52:40 06/23/05 (27)
- The question begs asking... - Wellfed 09:11:35 06/23/05 (26)
- Even if I did have the chip examined... - KlausR. 00:56:09 06/24/05 (9)
- I wouldn't care... - Wellfed 12:37:46 07/01/05 (8)
- Then you are the perfect target... - KlausR. 22:04:18 07/01/05 (7)
- You presumably miss my point... - Wellfed 22:21:18 07/01/05 (6)
- I make you a proposal - KlausR. 05:19:40 07/02/05 (1)
- Sounds good... - Wellfed 20:12:15 07/02/05 (0)
- I don't think I've missed your point! - KlausR. 04:11:49 07/02/05 (3)
- Don't forget... - Wellfed 20:49:56 07/02/05 (2)
- Re: Don't forget... - john curl 22:26:22 07/03/05 (1)
- Encouragement/reinforcement. - soulfood 08:52:17 07/04/05 (0)
- there's no need - BS64 11:43:41 06/23/05 (11)
- Is that so?... - Wellfed 14:17:55 06/23/05 (10)
- "Don't you have anything better to do?" - BS64 15:32:05 06/23/05 (9)
- What is the context of your "gloating"?... - Wellfed 16:21:04 06/23/05 (8)
- Re: What is the context of your "gloating"?... - BS64 08:49:12 06/26/05 (7)
- I didn't tell Klaus to have the GSIC tested... - Wellfed 19:32:32 06/28/05 (6)
- "...given your level of interest in the subject, why don't YOU have the chip tested? " - BS64 10:28:12 07/01/05 (5)
- Your point being? [nt] - Wellfed 12:40:17 07/01/05 (4)
- you stated that you did not tell Klaus to have the chip tested - BS64 04:05:48 07/02/05 (3)
- Did not... - Wellfed 21:00:50 07/02/05 (2)
- did so - BS64 12:31:04 07/03/05 (1)
- Literally speaking... - Wellfed 23:13:33 07/04/05 (0)
- Hijacker! nt - bjh 10:33:14 06/23/05 (3)
- Serious question... - Wellfed 14:19:04 06/23/05 (2)
- No seriously I was interested in Curl's response - bjh 17:02:25 06/23/05 (1)
- No, I don't... - Wellfed 21:54:40 06/23/05 (0)
- Keep an open mind, John, you might learn something. - Al Sekela 16:48:17 06/22/05 (0)
- "Do we REALLY know what the chip is? NO!" - bjh 12:13:23 06/22/05 (0)
- Re: Yet another last chapter of the GSIC saga! - Allan 11:34:32 06/22/05 (1)
- "Clark has no more interest in integrity either." According to your minions... - clarkjohnsen 07:51:17 06/23/05 (0)
- "That's why I chuckle when..." That's what one must do with these people. nt - clarkjohnsen 11:03:04 06/22/05 (0)