Logging on regularly to this board and reading about the threat to SACD's survival has gotten me thinking. Long before SACD was introduced, I have felt that CD can never deliver a satisfactory range of expressive nuance, instrumental colour, dynamics and presence for convincing reproduction of classical music or Jazz, no matter how good the speakers and amplifiers. CD is always a letdown when it tries to convey the music of the great composers and Jazz legends.SACD came in 1999 and showed how it had the potential to deliver great music with heart and soul intact. I have written articles in PF magazine about how I sold off all my CDs and started an SACD collection. This collection is now 800 titles strong, filled with great music that is superbly recorded (I never buy SACDs just for sonic quality.) I don't play any CDs on my hifi system. However I do listen to CDs on my car stereo.
For me, when SACD goes, so does any opportunity for me to enjoy to great music in High Fidelity. For me, I find it ridiculous to feed a great amplifier and speaker system with a CD source. A good system just shows up how constricted and strangled CD sounds when attempting to reproduce music. If SACD goes, I would still listen to great music on CD on a regular system, but there would be just no point in seeking after quality reproduction anymore.
Of course there is vinyl, which sounds great on Jazz and Pop, but I could not tolerate the clicks and pops during quiet passages of classical music, nor changing sides every two movements of a symphony or sonata. Kind of spoils the illusion for me.
The whole world could revert to CD or descend to MP3. I'll hang on to my SACD collection as tightly as I hold on to high-fidelity musical reproduction of great music.
Those who appreciate subtle distinctions in timbral shades, dynamic scale and expressive nuance would know what I'm referring to.
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Topic - Survival of SACD and Survival of the Discerning Listening Experience - DkB 10:32:46 05/18/06 (85)
- Agreed that vinyl can be frustrating as you describe, but… - sgb 22:30:33 05/18/06 (4)
- Depending on Musical Style, CD can be adequate - DkB 21:43:40 05/19/06 (2)
- Re: Depending on Musical Style, CD can be adequate - sgb 11:37:04 05/21/06 (0)
- Re: Depending on Musical Style, CD can be adequate - Dave Garretson 04:53:56 05/20/06 (0)
- It's a matter of degree.. - JCS 04:45:47 05/19/06 (0)
- EXACTLY - BRAVO! (nt) - Allen Wright 15:02:32 05/18/06 (0)
- Re: Survival of SACD and Survival of the Discerning Listening Experience - Dave Garretson 14:34:14 05/18/06 (12)
- Right on, I agree, RBCD has improved tremendously with SOTA players - Sordidman 16:42:06 05/19/06 (0)
- Re: Survival of SACD and Survival of the Discerning Listening Experience - Ozzie 13:24:59 05/19/06 (0)
- the difference in sonics between SACD and RBCD in my system... - Allen Wright 15:05:54 05/18/06 (2)
- Re: the difference in sonics between SACD and RBCD in my system... - Dave Garretson 15:41:54 05/18/06 (1)
- Believe it! - Allen Wright 12:40:13 05/19/06 (0)
- "older CDs sounding great" - Christine Tham 14:55:00 05/18/06 (6)
- Re: "older CDs sounding great" - sgb 22:41:37 05/18/06 (5)
- Sadly, you are right ... - Christine Tham 23:15:14 05/18/06 (4)
- Re: Sadly, you are right ... - Steve Siener 14:18:45 05/19/06 (3)
- Actually, no - Christine Tham 20:14:37 05/19/06 (2)
- I meant that it complements common iPod use: - Steve Siener 15:31:44 05/20/06 (1)
- Not sure about that - Christine Tham 16:52:28 05/20/06 (0)
- A couple of perhaps tangential thoughts... - Jim Treanor 14:32:13 05/18/06 (4)
- As usual you are the master with the keyboard - well said;nt - Pacman 15:15:55 05/19/06 (0)
- SACD Survival Posts - Robertc88 03:39:09 05/19/06 (0)
- Re: A couple of perhaps tangential thoughts... - cyclonic 00:04:33 05/19/06 (0)
- Absolutely - I couldn't agree more (nt) - JoshT 15:26:45 05/18/06 (0)
- Survival of SACD - Mr Underhill 12:55:05 05/18/06 (2)
- What Type Of Music Do You Like? - Robertc88 03:48:24 05/19/06 (1)
- catholic - Mr Underhill 13:27:08 05/19/06 (0)
- Re: Survival of SACD and Survival of the Discerning Listening Experience - Waldteufel 11:35:41 05/18/06 (25)
- Redbook sounds fine on my system, especially massed strings. - SalD 16:26:52 05/18/06 (24)
- Sounds like that's player/music specific; not format specific - Waldteufel 22:18:35 05/18/06 (2)
- Re: Sounds like that's player/music specific; not format specific - SalD 22:40:57 05/18/06 (1)
- Where I Struggle With That - Robertc88 03:52:14 05/19/06 (0)
- I read an article in the absolute sound many years ago that stated many components are being designed with CDs in mind. - Teresa 16:41:02 05/18/06 (20)
- I would like to purchase equipment that is honest to the recording. - Robert Hamel 07:28:30 05/19/06 (0)
- Don't know about that, but ... - Christine Tham 17:26:59 05/18/06 (18)
- A further hint ... - Christine Tham 18:10:16 05/18/06 (17)
- Well, - Steve Siener 19:52:47 05/18/06 (16)
- Re: Well, - Christine Tham 21:11:38 05/18/06 (15)
- Theory vs. Practice - Dave Garretson 08:56:35 05/19/06 (14)
- Re: Theory vs. Practice - Christine Tham 15:31:24 05/19/06 (13)
- Still overlooking digitals poorest design solution. - Frank.. 11:08:53 05/22/06 (0)
- I'm not following you - Charles Hansen 21:14:38 05/20/06 (2)
- I'll try and explain it as simply as I can, but it is a lot easier if i can draw a picture - Christine Tham 22:01:19 05/20/06 (1)
- Re: I'll try and explain it as simply as I can, but it is a lot easier if i can draw a picture - Frank.. 11:30:45 05/22/06 (0)
- Re: Theory vs. Practice - Dave Garretson 07:29:47 05/20/06 (6)
- Re: Theory vs. Practice - Christine Tham 08:44:21 05/20/06 (5)
- Re: Theory vs. Practice - Dave Garretson 12:38:10 05/20/06 (4)
- Re: Theory vs. Practice - Christine Tham 17:16:10 05/20/06 (3)
- Re: Theory vs. Practice - iza 00:36:02 05/21/06 (2)
- Re: Theory vs. Practice - Christine Tham 00:48:13 05/21/06 (1)
- Re: Theory vs. Practice - iza 02:55:21 05/21/06 (0)
- Excellent thinking - The Sound Guy 00:42:56 05/20/06 (1)
- It's bad thinking.. - Frank.. 10:41:27 05/22/06 (0)
- welcome back DKB and I still don't get it - tunenut 10:54:00 05/18/06 (31)
- There is Poor and there is POOR. For example I can enjoy a great Toscanini Mono performance on LP, but - Teresa 15:02:37 05/18/06 (11)
- Re: There is Poor and there is POOR. For example I can enjoy a great Toscanini Mono performance on LP, but - pann 17:31:12 05/18/06 (0)
- puh-leeze - tunenut 15:23:20 05/18/06 (9)
- I listen to LPs, Reel to Reels, Cassettes, DVD-Audios, 24/96 DADs, 24/192 HDADs and I would listen to SACDs if - Teresa 15:44:54 05/18/06 (8)
- Do you actually believe that everyone who listens to CDs.... - Jackaro 15:20:46 05/19/06 (7)
- No I believe they have a higher threshold of pain, especially to the ears than I do. That's all. - Teresa 18:15:38 05/19/06 (6)
- Some people die from a simple bee sting, glass of milk, or a piece of shrimp.. - Chris Garrett 12:43:16 05/20/06 (0)
- But... - Jackaro 20:35:39 05/19/06 (4)
- Ah Ha but Tunenut has heard and listens to SACDs - Teresa 09:47:50 05/20/06 (3)
- You are either being facetious... - Jackaro 11:52:57 05/20/06 (1)
- No contradiction - Teresa 12:23:38 05/20/06 (0)
- thanks for respecting my right not to feel pain (NT) - tunenut 11:09:35 05/20/06 (0)
- I understand your point Tunenut. . . - Phil W 11:51:14 05/18/06 (16)
- Time to get a Bose Waveradio - Robert Hamel 15:58:17 05/18/06 (1)
- There is a much better solution - Charles Hansen 17:14:49 05/18/06 (0)
- Maybe the problem is your system - Charles Hansen 13:19:52 05/18/06 (12)
- Right on the mark....cabling often the culprit... - Waldteufel 05:35:27 05/19/06 (0)
- Re: Maybe the problem is your system - prad 05:25:06 05/19/06 (6)
- Depends on your bank account balance - Charles Hansen 08:10:30 05/19/06 (5)
- Re: Depends on your bank account balance - prad 01:24:48 05/20/06 (4)
- There is virtually nothing that meets your requirements - Charles Hansen 12:36:12 05/20/06 (3)
- pRecisely! - prad 23:28:12 05/20/06 (2)
- Because of high inflation in Japan a lot of Japanese products are made in China. - Teresa 01:30:59 05/22/06 (1)
- Re: Because of high inflation in Japan a lot of Japanese products are made in China. - prad 04:46:35 05/22/06 (0)
- Possibly, but . . . - Phil W 16:49:35 05/18/06 (3)
- Re: Possibly, but . . . - Charles Hansen 17:12:50 05/18/06 (2)
- Interesting comments. - Phil W 11:00:07 05/20/06 (1)
- Re: Interesting comments. - Charles Hansen 12:42:08 05/20/06 (0)
- I have thought about this a lot - tunenut 12:48:21 05/18/06 (0)
- I do get it . . . . - DkB 11:15:25 05/18/06 (0)
- You are so right. (nt) - SalD 11:13:14 05/18/06 (0)