In Reply to: Re: Nope, this isn't right, Let me try to explain dither. posted by Ted Smith on June 16, 2006 at 13:50:26:
I like to think in examples. So think about a very very tiny constant signal. Without dither, it would just be sampled as zero and would disappear.With random dither, it will almost always be sampled as zero, but every once in a long while it will be pushed above the quantization level and will show up as a 1. So you end up with many 0s and a few 1s widely scattered.
With a long integration time, you will get back your original signal.
And any arbitrarily small constant signal can be detected using a long enough integration time.
Obviously a long integration time doesn't work for a time varying signal because you'd lose the high frequencies. But you do need some sort of integration to get the dither to work as intended.
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- this is, I believe, his point - tunenut 13:58:39 06/16/06 (27)
- I know, but - Ted Smith 14:12:42 06/16/06 (25)
- Maybe This Would Help.... - Todd Krieger 15:07:43 06/16/06 (19)
- ***sigh*** Same mistake you made years ago - real_jj 20:04:17 06/16/06 (2)
- Re: ***sigh*** Same mistake you made years ago - Todd Krieger 00:01:30 06/17/06 (1)
- So, like the guy at www.timecube.com, you won't go away... - real_jj 00:26:31 06/17/06 (0)
- That's misleading and actually wrong. - Ted Smith 15:28:54 06/16/06 (15)
- Re: That's misleading and actually wrong. - Todd Krieger 21:07:20 06/16/06 (14)
- Still the same mistake. - real_jj 22:21:43 06/16/06 (13)
- Re: Still the same mistake. - Todd Krieger 23:50:30 06/16/06 (12)
- Of course you can in many cases! - Ted Smith 07:39:37 06/17/06 (7)
- Bullshit.... - Todd Krieger 11:01:50 06/17/06 (6)
- Sorry Todd - Ted Smith 12:22:28 06/17/06 (2)
- Re: Sorry Todd - Todd Krieger 12:55:53 06/17/06 (1)
- Re: Sorry Todd - Ted Smith 13:03:49 06/17/06 (0)
- Tut... - real_jj 11:08:23 06/17/06 (2)
- The Poseur Posse.... - Todd Krieger 11:20:15 06/17/06 (1)
- See the questions addressed to you at the top of the board... - real_jj 11:30:37 06/17/06 (0)
- Well, let's see. - real_jj 00:20:18 06/17/06 (3)
- Re: Well, let's see. - Todd Krieger 00:51:57 06/17/06 (2)
- Re: Well, let's see. - andy_c 08:44:44 06/17/06 (0)
- Todd, go get a sub-director at www.timecube.com - real_jj 00:54:25 06/17/06 (0)
- Don't confuse oversampling with dithering... - real_jj 14:21:05 06/16/06 (3)
- Sorry I wasn't trying to - Ted Smith 14:32:35 06/16/06 (2)
- Understood... - real_jj 14:50:44 06/16/06 (1)
- Agreed - Ted Smith 15:05:56 06/16/06 (0)
- I see your point - tunenut 14:19:30 06/16/06 (0)
- Nope... - real_jj 14:08:31 06/16/06 (0)