In Reply to: no that's not right posted by tunenut on June 15, 2006 at 13:30:14:
The ability to extract a signal below ambient noise depends on the time window that the signal can be examined over.The time window in basic loudness memory is about 200 milliseconds. To that extent, we can indeed extract signal from noise. However, we can not do the same level of matched filtering or signal detection that a machine working over many seconds can do.
What's more, we can not narrow the filters in our ears, they are pretty much established as fixed-bandwidth filters. Narrowing filters is another way (it is effectively a limited form of matched filtering) to extract signal from background, but in that sense we are very limited.
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Follow Ups
- No, your brain can not do this in the same way... - real_jj 13:38:07 06/15/06 (19)
- there is more to it than the 200 msec - tunenut 15:31:21 06/15/06 (15)
- Yes and no. - real_jj 16:44:18 06/15/06 (14)
- Re: Yes and no. - morricab 02:27:57 06/16/06 (1)
- What's it dependent on? - real_jj 10:33:19 06/16/06 (0)
- OK I'm with you... - tunenut 17:23:10 06/15/06 (11)
- Re: OK I'm with you... - morricab 02:30:00 06/16/06 (10)
- Re: OK I'm with you... - Ted Smith 08:39:54 06/16/06 (9)
- Indeed.... - real_jj 10:40:24 06/16/06 (8)
- Re: Indeed.... - morricab 12:03:17 06/16/06 (3)
- No, that's a different issue... - real_jj 12:07:52 06/16/06 (2)
- Re: No, that's a different issue... - morricab 12:15:36 06/16/06 (1)
- Yes, but it's filled in with your expectation... - real_jj 12:32:49 06/16/06 (0)
- electronic voice phenomenon? - Ted Smith 10:52:39 06/16/06 (2)
- Can't say as I blame you... - real_jj 11:36:14 06/16/06 (1)
- Yep, that's why I blew it off. [nt] - Ted Smith 11:42:28 06/16/06 (0)
- Re: Indeed.... - Ted Smith 10:50:07 06/16/06 (0)
- Maybe Tests Could Be Run..... - Todd Krieger 15:20:00 06/15/06 (2)
- Word intellegibility - real_jj 16:46:15 06/15/06 (1)
- Oh, and where's your retraction? - real_jj 16:51:01 06/15/06 (0)