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In Reply to: Re: See Steve Eddy's post above, and let's consider .... posted by Jon Risch on March 25, 2004 at 20:54:11:
[ It is ok for you to advise people to use teflon. It should be ok for others to advise people to try other dielectics as well so that they can decide for themselves what THEY prefer. ]You make my point for me. WHICH dielectrics?
Unless you recommend some specifics, all you are doing is throwing the options wide open, the scientific anarchy I am referring to.
Oh my God! Wide open options! THE HORRORS!
What exactly is wrong about wide open options? And why would you want to limit people's options?
And what's this "scientific" stuff? What's "scientific" about what sounds best to a particular individual? About as close to "scientific" as you can get with something like that is just statistics.
So what are you saying, Jon? That people should limit their options to whatever happens to be number one on the Jon Risch Hit Parade?
You can't say in one breath, that it isn't anarchy, and then fail to specify SOMETHING concrete. WHAT else should they be trying?
Whatever else they may choose to try.
Christ, Jon, these people are adults. They don't need to be TOLD what to try. They can simply look around and see what other choices there are.
You brought up one trivial example where the original poster mentioned silver vs. an other option. In other instances where you offered this advice, there were no 'either or' options, your reply was wide open.
See above.
I find it absolutely amazing that you feel SO strongly about the ISSUES (or so you say), yet can not bring yourself to make any sort of actual specific recommendation. Just "try some other XXXXX".
Or is it that your purpose is actually something else?The purpose is to counter the notion that someone else knows better than anyone else what's best for a particular individual, including than that particular individual. The notion that because someone makes claims of vast experience and spews a lot of technobabble that their recommendations are inherently superior to the recommendations of others.
A notion which you work so hard at trying to instil in others not just by evangelizing yourself and your point of view as to what sounds best to you, but also (and this is the critical point) by way of actively discouraging people from considering the views of others who would recommend that which you would not.
And it's how you go about doing this that myself and others feel violates the spirit of Cable Asylum if that spirit is to be for people share their experiences regarding without being hassled.
How you do this goes rather like this:
Someone asks for recommendations on say dielectrics.
You reply with your usual recommendations.
Someone else replies recommending something other than what you would recommend.
Now, if the spirit of the forum were to prevail, that would basically be the end of it. Recommendations solicited, recommendations delivered.
But you're not always content to leave it at that. Many times what you have done is gone and replied directly to the person recommending that which you would not, giving a big spiel as to why what that person recommended can't possibly sound as good as what you recommended, even going so far as to impugn the person themself, calling into question their listening experience, the quality of their system, etc.
That is fundamentally no different that his scenario:
Someone asks for recommendations on speaker cables.
Someone recommends something say from Nordost.
A "naysayer" recommends zip cord from Home Depot.
And instead of leaving it at that, the "naysayer" then directly replies to the person recommending the person recommending Nordost with a big spiel saying that they can't possibly sound any better or indeed any different than Home Depot zip cord. Further, the "naysayer" goes on to impugn the person themself, saying anyone who would spend that kind of money on speaker cables must be an idiot.
Now, this second scenario wouldn't be tolerated on Cable Asylum at all as it would be considered harrassment and the "naysayer" would be severely warned not to engage in such behavior again or else they will be banned.
Yet it is the same thing you engage in in your attempts to actively discourage people from considering anything other than what you would recommend. And if this second scenario constitutes harrassment which is not in keeping with the spirit of Cable Asylum, so too does your behavior.
But then, it would have nothing to do with my posts, and nothing to do with the moderating actions I have taken, because there have been none taken, and nothing to do with the higher moral stand that you and Steve and Phil claim as the basis for all this concern. It would have to do with an entirely less moral reason on your part(s), and one which has nothing to do with my posts or behavior as a member OR a moderator of CA.
As outlined above, it has very much to do with your behavior both as a member and as a moderator of Cable Asylum.
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- Re: See Steve Eddy's post above, and let's consider .... - Steve Eddy 23:59:28 03/25/04 (0)
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