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In Reply to: I believe so as well... posted by thetubeguy1954 on June 22, 2006 at 06:01:10:
These guys are on a warpath. And they keep lifting the bar. Nearly every day you can find one of them demanding a DBT for "proof", yet when a topic like Absolute Polarity, which has been proved over and over again by DBTs, is introduced they still fight you.There will be no common ground until they drop the anger, recognize that "these sounds" exist, and admit that live music is clearly differentiable from even a hi-fi that breezes through their current measurements.
clark
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - Lucio Cadeddu interviewing Dieter Ennemoser. - thetubeguy1954 09:20:59 06/19/06 (131)
- Re: Lucio Cadeddu interviewing Dieter Ennemoser. - the roofman 12:05:10 06/21/06 (12)
- Just to set the record straight - unclestu52 15:15:10 06/21/06 (1)
- Ennemoser also makes those incredible unproven claims - Caymus 16:08:44 06/21/06 (0)
- I have no reason to doubt his violin-making abilities, but... - andy_c 12:37:49 06/21/06 (9)
- Are you suggesting reading Donald Duck qualifies him to make violins but not knobs? - Soundmind 09:22:45 06/23/06 (2)
- I don't know, but I think it's safe to say... - andy_c 09:43:02 06/23/06 (1)
- he did not get engineering knowledge from Donald Duck... - BobP 12:37:00 07/13/06 (0)
- These may be the finest wood audio knobs in the world for all you know - Soundmind 12:54:30 06/21/06 (5)
- It’s "Good Vibrations" vs. "Bad Vibrations" - Caymus 14:07:16 06/21/06 (2)
- Didn't the Cornfield Boys record Bad Vibrations? -t - Bruce Kendall 12:32:36 06/22/06 (0)
- This brings to mind the sci-fi sound effects in... - andy_c 16:17:21 06/21/06 (0)
- As one high-end manufacturer once put it... - andy_c 13:15:15 06/21/06 (1)
- Ok, I won't mention power cords. I won't mention power cords... - real_jj 13:54:03 06/21/06 (0)
- Oh no…someone promoting that magic $500 wood knob again! - Caymus 13:01:51 06/19/06 (68)
- Answer: "Those are very professional looking knobs". - Richard BassNut Greene 09:31:51 06/22/06 (0)
- I'm convinced. I'm throwing away my degree. The right wood knobs will solve everythiing. - Soundmind 05:25:16 06/21/06 (22)
- Wait, your wrong, these ARE Special.......... - tomservo 14:33:15 06/21/06 (2)
- Re: Wait, your wrong, these ARE Special.......... - Soundmind 16:15:29 06/21/06 (1)
- Re: Wait, your wrong, these ARE Special.......... - tomservo 17:58:27 06/21/06 (0)
- I'm NOT convinced, But I Am Willing To Listem - thetubeguy1954 05:42:23 06/21/06 (18)
- "It's foolish on your part to outright dismiss an idea without at least listening." They say that... - clarkjohnsen 09:10:09 06/21/06 (6)
- You never know when they might take out an ad in your bosses magazine...so you'd better not dismiss them - Soundmind 11:03:54 06/21/06 (5)
- Do you think JA would hire someone who believes the GSIC is real? - Caymus 15:40:26 06/22/06 (0)
- Gad! You can't even be bothered to learn whom he writes for. - markrohr 06:04:51 06/22/06 (3)
- He's not a person who much cares much about the facts. So we let him be the moth who's drawn into his own flame. nt - clarkjohnsen 07:37:24 06/22/06 (2)
- I loved it when - markrohr 08:25:49 06/22/06 (1)
- That's rich! Soundmind talking down to you! The guy is fruit-loopy. nt - clarkjohnsen 08:32:18 06/22/06 (0)
- You're NOT convinced? I'd think you'd be beating the band and leading the charge to the dealer. - Soundmind 05:58:56 06/21/06 (10)
- You're NOT convinced? ((( No I'm Not! - thetubeguy1954 06:22:23 06/21/06 (9)
- You just said that. You're in a loop. Pull yourself together man. Move on..... nt - Soundmind 06:45:34 06/21/06 (8)
- Re: You just said that. You're in a loop. Pull yourself together man. Move on..... nt - thetubeguy1954 07:16:05 06/21/06 (7)
- A phonograph stylus will do that, keep skipping back to the same groove again and again and again - Soundmind 07:33:46 06/21/06 (6)
- Re: A phonograph stylus will do that, keep skipping back to the same groove again and again and again - thetubeguy1954 07:44:07 06/21/06 (5)
- "why not return to debating this intelligently," - Soundmind 07:51:00 06/21/06 (4)
- Re: "why not return to debating this intelligently," - thetubeguy1954 08:31:27 06/21/06 (3)
- Have you tried praying to the little pyramids yet, that might work too - Soundmind 08:39:08 06/21/06 (2)
- No I haven't, Have You? - thetubeguy1954 10:31:49 06/21/06 (1)
- Re: No I haven't, Have You? - Soundmind 11:01:31 06/21/06 (0)
- So it's clear, the knob is very questionable... - real_jj 10:51:24 06/20/06 (40)
- I Agree - thetubeguy1954 12:05:47 06/20/06 (39)
- Just FYI... - real_jj 17:19:56 06/20/06 (2)
- Re: Just FYI... - thetubeguy1954 07:39:48 06/22/06 (1)
- Well.... - real_jj 12:06:47 06/22/06 (0)
- Fancy Knobs and Rolex Watches..... - Todd Krieger 16:56:08 06/20/06 (29)
- Bit difference - Rolex can actually prove their product claims - Caymus 18:49:46 06/20/06 (25)
- Re: Bit difference - Rolex can actually prove their product claims - Todd Krieger 00:10:16 06/21/06 (24)
- "Seemingly-obvious scams like Meshuggah Dynamica." How to explain then... - clarkjohnsen 09:20:00 06/21/06 (23)
- If you haven't heard them, how do you know? - Soundmind 05:39:39 06/22/06 (0)
- That's Why I Said "Seemingly"..... - Todd Krieger 10:14:14 06/21/06 (6)
- OK, OK... you hedged the bet. But you still insulted Geoff by saying "Meshuggah". nt - clarkjohnsen 07:34:14 06/22/06 (5)
- I Was Trying to Be Funny..... - Todd Krieger 10:24:04 06/23/06 (1)
- Oh, a comedian. I get it! Then you're forgiven... nt - clarkjohnsen 10:29:45 06/23/06 (0)
- Should he have said meshuga or meshugina, or meshuginanisi? - real_jj 17:17:51 06/22/06 (2)
- Re: Gee, not one single - geoffkait 08:46:24 06/24/06 (1)
- "anti-racist himself". Looks like Kait is engaging in more stereotyping... - real_jj 14:04:44 06/29/06 (0)
- here is the full and complete explanation - tunenut 10:08:01 06/21/06 (10)
- No this is not the full and complete explanation - thetubeguy1954 11:29:44 06/21/06 (9)
- "These responses don't seem like they are coming from music lovers." Or lovers of any kind. - clarkjohnsen 07:23:22 06/22/06 (0)
- here are a few points to consider - tunenut 12:42:32 06/21/06 (7)
- Re: here are a few points to consider - thetubeguy1954 12:53:58 06/21/06 (6)
- OK it sounds like we agree more than disagree - tunenut 13:02:18 06/21/06 (5)
- I believe so as well... - thetubeguy1954 06:01:10 06/22/06 (4)
- "Appease the Objectivists." So we can have *Peace in Our Time*? Not gonna happen. - clarkjohnsen 07:32:42 06/22/06 (4)
- Clark, next time be truthful. :( - real_jj 13:07:06 06/22/06 (3)
- I Disagree Real JJ - thetubeguy1954 14:11:22 06/22/06 (2)
- Well, we'll have to disagree on this one... - real_jj 16:16:10 06/22/06 (1)
- Re: Well, we'll have to disagree on this one... - andy_c 22:20:16 06/22/06 (0)
- It explains................ - Dan Banquer 10:07:53 06/21/06 (2)
- Re: It explains................ - Todd Krieger 10:17:49 06/21/06 (1)
- Re: It explains................ - Dan Banquer 10:20:13 06/21/06 (0)
- Re: Nice try... - $orabji! 17:40:39 06/20/06 (0)
- Yes and no, what's the opportunity cost, Todd? - real_jj 17:21:12 06/20/06 (1)
- Re: Yes and no, what's the opportunity cost, Todd? - Todd Krieger 18:46:28 06/20/06 (0)
- You should understand the difference between OBSERVATION and PROOF - Caymus 16:25:23 06/20/06 (5)
- The knob and C37 are expensive tweaks and are not demonstrated, at least to my knowledge. Proof is not required, but - Norm 16:46:20 06/20/06 (4)
- "The IC was demonstrated and sold many chips." Idiots! Numskulls! Duped swine! nt - clarkjohnsen 09:16:37 06/21/06 (3)
- Is that sarcasm or reality? Hard to tell, Clark. - real_jj 13:20:17 06/21/06 (2)
- You know perfectly well who's being satirized. nt - clarkjohnsen 07:46:58 06/22/06 (1)
- Who's that, Clark? - real_jj 12:08:04 06/22/06 (0)
- Re: Oh no…someone promoting that magic $500 wood knob again! - thetubeguy1954 08:11:55 06/20/06 (2)
- Well, thanks! - real_jj 10:48:20 06/20/06 (1)
- I Agree Yet Once Again... - thetubeguy1954 12:31:13 06/20/06 (0)
- How to put this... - real_jj 12:56:58 06/19/06 (8)
- Once by coincidence... - unclestu52 11:34:17 06/21/06 (1)
- Well, ... - real_jj 13:47:34 06/21/06 (0)
- Re: How to put this... - morricab 02:41:27 06/21/06 (4)
- My daughter's violin... - real_jj 13:52:59 06/21/06 (3)
- Re: My daughter's violin... - morricab 02:02:34 06/22/06 (0)
- Interesting that you bring up the flute - unclestu52 15:10:50 06/21/06 (1)
- Re: Interesting that you bring up the flute - real_jj 19:08:26 06/21/06 (0)
- Just last week . . . - markrohr 10:07:55 06/20/06 (0)
- Read this infomercial years back. (long) - cheap-Jack 12:10:45 06/19/06 (16)
- Re: Read this infomercial years back. (long) - thetubeguy1954 14:00:06 06/19/06 (11)
- But that Dieter is a vendor.. - cheap-Jack 08:44:38 06/20/06 (10)
- Re: But that Dieter is a vendor.. - thetubeguy1954 09:08:43 06/20/06 (9)
- I am a subjectivist, but within reason. - cheap-Jack 10:57:03 06/20/06 (8)
- I Agree With You Too - thetubeguy1954 13:25:11 06/20/06 (7)
- I don't dispute C37 may work with a violin, but - cheap-Jack 13:43:37 06/20/06 (6)
- Re: I don't dispute C37 may work with a violin, but - thetubeguy1954 06:00:50 06/21/06 (5)
- Difficult to get people to focus isn't it? nt - clarkjohnsen 09:22:34 06/21/06 (0)
- That's what you still don't seem to understand. - cheap-Jack 08:14:10 06/21/06 (3)
- Re: That's what you still don't seem to understand. - thetubeguy1954 08:38:41 06/21/06 (2)
- I give up. - cheap-Jack 09:29:50 06/21/06 (1)
- Re: I give up. - thetubeguy1954 11:56:09 06/21/06 (0)
- Wow, you know music ! - cheap-Jack 13:26:31 06/19/06 (1)
- A sense of pitch and a sense of key are very different. Key is almost independent of pitch. - clarkjohnsen 07:57:49 06/20/06 (0)
- How can a "pitch" be in "C-sharp minor"? nt - clarkjohnsen 12:39:27 06/19/06 (1)
- At last you've met your match...LOL - Soundmind 05:45:38 06/21/06 (0)
- Re: Lucio Cadeddu interviewing Dieter Ennemoser. - Dan Banquer 09:50:14 06/19/06 (22)
- Re: Lucio Cadeddu interviewing Dieter Ennemoser. - thetubeguy1954 13:50:32 06/19/06 (21)
- Re: Lucio Cadeddu interviewing Dieter Ennemoser. - tomservo 17:07:04 06/19/06 (1)
- Re: Lucio Cadeddu interviewing Dieter Ennemoser. - the roofman 07:48:57 06/20/06 (0)
- You are asking.............. - Dan Banquer 16:22:24 06/19/06 (18)
- Re: You are asking.............. - thetubeguy1954 08:03:54 06/20/06 (15)
- You are asking for a reality test - tomservo 10:19:44 06/20/06 (13)
- both replys - tomservo 18:38:21 06/20/06 (6)
- "Thoriated, the GD in band of modern electronics is insignificant." - not compared to distortion - thoriated 07:51:15 06/21/06 (2)
- Re: "Thoriated, the GD in band of modern electronics is insignificant." - not compared to distortion - tomservo 10:47:58 06/21/06 (1)
- Re: "Thoriated, the GD in band of modern electronics is insignificant." - not compared to distortion - thoriated 11:52:43 06/21/06 (0)
- Re: both replys - thetubeguy1954 07:39:38 06/21/06 (2)
- Re: both replys - tomservo 12:49:56 06/21/06 (0)
- "This needs to be studied by scientists and audio designers with open minds." Rotsa ruck there, fella! nt - clarkjohnsen 09:40:48 06/21/06 (0)
- Re: You are asking for a reality test - thoriated 15:00:29 06/20/06 (0)
- Re: You are asking for a reality test - thetubeguy1954 14:08:58 06/20/06 (4)
- "Todays accepted standard tests for measuring." Accepted by whom? There's the problem! - clarkjohnsen 09:36:05 06/21/06 (3)
- But you don't have an Alternative! - Dan Banquer 13:33:38 06/22/06 (0)
- Bravo Clark! - thetubeguy1954 06:48:11 06/22/06 (1)
- So you are comparing yourself to - Pat D 08:01:54 06/29/06 (0)
- Re: You are asking.............. - Dan Banquer 09:16:17 06/20/06 (0)
- Re: You are asking.............. - morricab 02:23:33 06/20/06 (1)
- Re: You are asking.............. - Dan Banquer 04:50:18 06/20/06 (0)
Follow Ups
- "Appease the Objectivists." So we can have *Peace in Our Time*? Not gonna happen. - clarkjohnsen 07:32:42 06/22/06 (4)
- Clark, next time be truthful. :( - real_jj 13:07:06 06/22/06 (3)
- I Disagree Real JJ - thetubeguy1954 14:11:22 06/22/06 (2)
- Well, we'll have to disagree on this one... - real_jj 16:16:10 06/22/06 (1)
- Re: Well, we'll have to disagree on this one... - andy_c 22:20:16 06/22/06 (0)
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