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In Reply to: Re: I Disagree posted by Soundmind on June 16, 2006 at 10:19:17:
Soundmind I cannot and will not speak about the abilities of others or what they can and cannot do. I have offered to prove if we used my audio components, in my room of which I am initimately familiar, that I could tell when my Mastersound amp is or isn't in the circuit, or when my Z-Squared interconnect is or isn't in the circuit, or my speakerwire etc.I do not expect you or anyone else to come to Orlando, Fl. specifically for this demonstration, but should you be happening to come to Orlando anyway, the offer is open to you. Just let me know before coming, ok?
As far as the editors & reviewers of TAS magazine in a weak moment of complete candor admitting that sound reproduction systems are NEVER accurate are concerned, I agree with that completely. In fact I don't see that as being a "weak moment" at all. I could be wrong, but I believe editors & reviewers of TAS, Stereophile or most audiophile magazines know that to be a true statement 100% of the time!
Hell I know it's true and I'm not technically proficient in the slightest. I know my SET is not 100% accurate, if it was it would be indistinguishable, from live music and it has NEVER fooled me into believing it sounds like live music.
I've never claimed my SET, any other SET, or any other audio component is 100% accurate. The only thing I've ever said to the best of my memory, is SETs will one day be proven to be MORE accurate than solidstate amps when it comes to replicating music realistically. Even that statement is subject to change. I remember when Bob Carver made a pair of his magnetic field amps sound supposedly indistinguishable from a pair of very expensive tube monoblocks.
If Bob could do that with his his magnetic field amps I don't see why a talented audio designer couldn't make a solidstate amp sound indistinguishable from an SET amp, in fact I'm surprised no one has actually attempted that very thing! Although I suppose one could argue that's what Nelson Pass was attempting with his First Watt amp.
Soundmind if you believe Victor Campos' statement is true than perhaps we are closer in our beliefs than either of us realized! I think that whatever audio component you like depends on what kind of distortion bothers you least, is probably one of the truest things I've ever seen written here on PHP forum. IMHO it's the Objectvists, in general who are implying that Victor Campos' statement is not a true statement, not Subjectivists.
From what I understand Objectivists usually claim SET lovers like SET amps because of their high 2nd order distortion, while Objectivists like solidstate amps because they are more accurate due to their distortions being so low as to be inaudible. That doesn't sound like someone whose choosing the kind of distortion that bothers them the least, but rather it sounds like someone who's saying I can hear your amp distort, but you cannot hear my amp distort, and that's NOT what Victor Campos was saying at all! Of course that like everything else is only IMHO.
Thetubeguy1954
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