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In Reply to: Re: And here's my problem with what people with your view say posted by Soundmind on June 15, 2006 at 10:12:38:
Soundmind it seems like you're playing games now. We already discussed this in the previous post. Although you are 100% correct in saying "If you walked blindfolded into a room where a sound system was operating, you couldn't possibly take more than a wild stab in the dark as to what amplifier was operating." It doesn't mean one CANNOT determine what an amplifier sounds like in ANY situation. Your proposed situation is rigged to make the listener fail. Just because a listener cannot tell in that one particular situation, it doesn't mean he cannot tell in other situations.As I stated previously "In order to judge whether a single component in a sound system is more or less accurate subjectively one would only need setup a system & become intimately familar with it. Later remove just a single component (preamp, poweramp, CD player, interconnect, speaker or whatever) "IF" any changes are heard then those changes have to be a direct result of that one component being added to the system. Now although you are still listening to a complete system, you'll have a very good idea of what that components sounds like in that system, in that room." So THAT is how one determines "...(how to) judge whether a single component in a sound system is more or less accurate subjectively."
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Next you take this comment of mine "As I've stated numerous times in the past todays measurements don't correlate with how the human ear/brain combo determines what's realistic and what isn't." and say Mr Cheever's thesis doesn't contribute to that, it doesn't even make a pretense that it does.I disagree with you. Mr Cheever's very point was "There exists general agreement that the commonly accepted test and measurement protocols for audio frequency power amplifiers fail to correlate with the subjectively accessed devices sound quality." That could quite easily be paraphrased as "...todays measurements don't correlate with how the human ear/brain combo determines what's realistic and what isn't."
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Soundmind your challenge to John Curl and anyone else who claims they can't correlate measurements they make with what they hear isn't to abandon measurements but to come up with better ones that do. Is something I hope comes to pass quickly! For I believe and have stated many times in the past that when these new measurements are developed we'll discover that SETs are actually more accurate than solidstate amps are, when it comes to replicating music realistically.Thetubeguy1954
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Follow Ups
- I Disagree - thetubeguy1954 10:10:23 06/16/06 (2)
- Re: I Disagree - Soundmind 10:19:17 06/16/06 (1)
- I Agree - thetubeguy1954 12:55:12 06/16/06 (0)
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