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In Reply to: Re: Answer My Specific Question. posted by andy19191 on May 15, 2006 at 08:03:12:
Andy,C'mon now. How can you say "Without providing sufficient information about what was actually done nobody can explain your results without speculation/guessing." When I wrote down EXACTLY what was done, step by step, via step 1-6.
I'll repeat this is how our experiment went.
1) Rick and I would always a) use the same song b) use the same volume (we simply shut the system off between different interconnects to assure the volume remained the same. We had no SPL meters and this seemed a reasoanble approach. Especially considering we expected to hear no differences.)
2) We labled the interconnects 1-8.
3) At no time during the process were we allowed to say if we did or didn't hear any differences.
4) We'd insert the interconnect, turn on the system, play the song, and while the song played we'd sit at opposite sides of a couch. We did this to be sure we didn't see what the other wrote--not that this mattered because Rick is almost blind after a 2 foot distance. Then we'd simultaneously wrote down what we heard.
5) Steps 1-4 were repeated for all 8 interconnects.
6) After all the interconnects were listened to and we were done writing we compared notes.
That's EXACTLY what we did. So I believe I've provided sufficient information about what was actually done!
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Andy you also claim "I am increasingly coming to the conclusion that you have little interest in the question you posed at the beginning of this thread."I'm very interested in how one who hears differences in cables could prove to someone else they actually hear this difference, without the usual ABX, DBT arguements. I haven't heard an original comment from one Objectivist yet. They all site what others did and others wrote, but I'm speaking from direct experience. I did steps 1-6 above personally and came to my own conclusions. I believed I wouldn't hear differences in cables and was shocked by just how much of a difference I heard.
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Andy to your comment of "Wires do affect sound (but in most circumstances less than is audibly perceptible by the human ear but predictable with known physical laws and often measureable by microphones)"I have direct experience that, this is not true. As I stated before without seeing what each other wrote and without speaking, Rick and I would write the same comments about the cables i.e. better bass, wider soundstage etc. I'm starting to believe it's Objectivists who just repeat a set group of canned answeres over andover again to ANYTHING a Subjectivists says.
I am not angry but find it insulting that you and other Objectivists would dispute what I KNOW I've heard as you site your DBT, ABX, it's unscientific, preconcieved notions or pick your favorite canned answer response to try and dispute what I've said.
The ONLY conclusion I can come to is Objectivist don't want to know the truth. Instead they pat each other on the back as they repeat from their favorite Objectivist article. Few of you talk from your own direct tests. You might not like my experiment, but at least I attempted to prove something to and for myself!
In doing this and the resulting shocking conclusions I cam to I wanted to know how to prove to others who still believe what I once did, i.e. Cables Aren't Audibly Different, that they're mistaken in their beliefs like I once was...
Thetubeguy1954
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- Re: Answer My Specific Question. - thetubeguy1954 10:56:07 05/15/06 (1)
- Re: Answer My Specific Question. - andy19191 14:01:31 05/15/06 (0)
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