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In Reply to: Re: You'll never prove it to the satisfaction of folks like this posted by thetubeguy1954 on May 12, 2006 at 11:47:48:
> I think McAttack, May Belt and you are correct.McAttack makes 3 statements and 2 are blatantly untrue (probably par for the course given his trade?), May Belt's posting is incomprehensible (so what are you agreeing with?) and Dave simply suggests giving up. The reason for the disinformation from the first two can be determined by following the M after their name. Dave at least is probably trying to be honest although I believe his advice is not constructive.
> There is nothing I will ever do to convince them of my perceptions.
Were they actually disagreeing with your perceptions or disagreeing with an assertion on you part that the cables were responsible for changing the sound rather than your perception of the sound? The two are not the same and I rather suspect they were disagreeing with the former (probably valid depending on the details) and not the latter (probably invalid depending on the details).
> As much as I'd like to somehow show them they're mistaken in their
> beliefs (I know this because I once shared their beliefs) it won't
> happen, ever.Why not try to be constructive and make the effort yourself rather than expecting them to make the effort? Here is an example of an audiophile making some effort to address the concerns of his audience:
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.rec.audio/browse_frm/thread/014cec87d1890052/#
Of course, he is not performing a valid experiment and some may still criticise the effort for valid reasons but the case as it stands is significantly more persuasive than if he had simply stated "I can/cannot hear this when I know what is connected" which will persuade almost nobody with any knowledge of the subject.
Of course, it is easy enough to perform a valid blind test as many groups of audio enthusiasts have done over the years but I am assuming you do not want to do this?
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Follow Ups
- Re: You'll never prove it to the satisfaction of folks like this - andy19191 03:01:34 05/14/06 (10)
- Re: You'll never prove it to the satisfaction of folks like this - thetubeguy1954 14:15:19 05/14/06 (6)
- Re: You'll never prove it to the satisfaction of folks like this - andy19191 23:27:03 05/14/06 (5)
- Re: You'll never prove it to the satisfaction of folks like this - thetubeguy1954 07:59:33 05/15/06 (4)
- Re: You'll never prove it to the satisfaction of folks like this - andy19191 08:46:09 05/15/06 (0)
- Re: You'll never prove it to the satisfaction of folks like this - bjh 08:44:51 05/15/06 (2)
- Re: You'll never prove it to the satisfaction of folks like this - thetubeguy1954 14:08:42 05/15/06 (1)
- Unless you are grossly misrepresenting your prior position - bjh 15:03:15 05/15/06 (0)
- There's absolutely no point in trying to be "constructive" - Dave Pogue 13:29:11 05/14/06 (0)
- Re: You'll never prove it to the satisfaction of folks like this - May Belt 11:01:29 05/14/06 (1)
- Re: You'll never prove it to the satisfaction of folks like this - andy19191 12:43:49 05/14/06 (0)
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