In Reply to: Re: How Does One Prove You Can Hear Different Cables posted by Dan Banquer on May 13, 2006 at 14:28:01:
I wonder if that's really audible. All those resonance effects should be easily verifiable through measurement and computation. No mystery there – just simple engineering.Has anyone ever done that? For example what’s expected resonant frequency for speaker wire? I’m guessing it’s well beyond human hearing, maybe even in the MHz region?
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- "reactive enough " - Caymus 16:12:00 05/13/06 (62)
- A friend of mine once replaced his generic IC cabling with low capacitance coax that I recommended and... - Tom Dawson 20:41:22 05/14/06 (20)
- "Skin effect for 20 awg wire starts to significantly decrease its conductivity above 20 khz " says who? - Tre' 20:17:42 05/15/06 (16)
- Sez this Microwave Encyclopedia web site - Tom Dawson 07:12:37 05/16/06 (15)
- Re: Sez this Microwave Encyclopedia web site - Tre' 10:54:07 05/16/06 (7)
- Re: Sez this Microwave Encyclopedia web site - jneutron 11:23:42 05/16/06 (6)
- Re: Sez this Microwave Encyclopedia web site - Tre' 11:37:31 05/16/06 (5)
- Re: Sez this Microwave Encyclopedia web site - jneutron 11:52:37 05/16/06 (4)
- Re: Sez this Microwave Encyclopedia web site - Tre' 14:20:09 05/16/06 (3)
- Re: Sez this Microwave Encyclopedia web site - Tom Dawson 14:56:41 05/16/06 (2)
- Re: Sez this Microwave Encyclopedia web site - Tre' 16:19:27 05/16/06 (1)
- Re: Sez this Microwave Encyclopedia web site - Tom Dawson 18:22:51 05/16/06 (0)
- Ah, thanks. - jneutron 07:35:24 05/16/06 (6)
- Re: Ah, thanks. - Tom Dawson 07:48:16 05/16/06 (5)
- Re: Ah, thanks. - jneutron 08:39:28 05/16/06 (4)
- Re: Ah, thanks. - Tom Dawson 09:04:36 05/16/06 (3)
- Re: Ah, thanks. - jneutron 09:23:14 05/16/06 (2)
- Re: Ah, thanks. - Tom Dawson 09:37:54 05/16/06 (1)
- Re: Ah, thanks. - jneutron 10:00:20 05/16/06 (0)
- Then how does video and digital work if wire can’t even pass 20 KHz? - Caymus 19:10:34 05/15/06 (2)
- The ICs in question were the garden variety types supplied with most mass market audio equipment. - Tom Dawson 07:17:36 05/16/06 (0)
- I suspect his friend had a passive pre - andy_c 20:16:09 05/15/06 (0)
- Re: "reactive enough " - Dan Banquer 06:42:13 05/14/06 (40)
- So what frequencies are these resonances caused by quality cables? - Caymus 11:00:29 05/14/06 (29)
- Re: So what frequencies are these resonances caused by quality cables? - Dan Banquer 11:10:51 05/14/06 (28)
- Then what is the frequency response of wire? - Caymus 13:27:38 05/14/06 (27)
- Re: Then what is the frequency response of wire? - andy_c 17:51:40 05/14/06 (23)
- So what are the typical 1M interconnect cable values? - Caymus 18:43:53 05/14/06 (22)
- Re: why don't audiophile cable manufacturers (Kimber, MIT, etc) ever publish these figures? - Dave Kingsland 06:35:38 05/15/06 (15)
- 0.5db at 8MHz! - Caymus 16:27:47 05/15/06 (14)
- Re: 0.5db at 8MHz! - Tom Dawson 08:33:03 05/16/06 (0)
- Good time to lend a hand to one of your cohorts! - bjh 17:00:05 05/15/06 (12)
- Re: Good time to lend a hand to one of your cohorts! - andy19191 00:16:16 05/16/06 (11)
- Re: Good time to lend a hand to one of your cohorts! - thetubeguy1954 08:39:56 05/16/06 (10)
- One More Response For Andy - thetubeguy1954 09:17:26 05/16/06 (9)
- "I know you desperately needed to believe that." And him, an "objectivist". Very funny! nt - clarkjohnsen 13:56:21 05/17/06 (0)
- Re: One More Response For Andy - andy19191 14:25:30 05/16/06 (7)
- Re: One More Response For Andy - thetubeguy1954 08:12:30 05/17/06 (6)
- "I don't believe you to be a foolish man." There you go again with your damn belief systems. ;-) nt - clarkjohnsen 13:58:53 05/17/06 (0)
- Re: One More Response For Andy - geoffkait 08:28:21 05/17/06 (4)
- '"tried and true" tactics: appeal to common sense, appeal to education, appeal to science, etc.' - Lynn 07:10:45 05/18/06 (1)
- Re: Yes, I'm quite - geoffkait 08:20:59 05/18/06 (0)
- Not to forget Appeal to Authority... nt - clarkjohnsen 13:59:55 05/17/06 (1)
- Re: Excellent, excellent... nt - geoffkait 14:25:09 05/17/06 (0)
- Maybe it is not to their advantage... - Lynn 19:56:55 05/14/06 (4)
- "Also, some boutique cables have a deliberate sonic signature ... - bjh 20:23:58 05/14/06 (3)
- Re: "Also, some boutique cables have a deliberate sonic signature ... - Caymus 16:45:33 05/15/06 (1)
- You'd swear that in the question of the - bjh 16:57:17 05/15/06 (0)
- Re: "Also, some boutique cables have a deliberate sonic signature ... - Lynn 05:51:38 05/15/06 (0)
- Heavily dependent on output impedance of the source - andy_c 19:06:29 05/14/06 (0)
- Re: Then what is the frequency response of wire? - Dan Banquer 15:14:32 05/14/06 (2)
- Take this hint: Condescending and evasive replies usually means you don’t know - Caymus 16:30:59 05/14/06 (1)
- Re: Take this hint: Condescending and evasive replies usually means you don’t know - Dan Banquer 18:13:14 05/14/06 (0)
- "Why anyone thinks this is better, or worth more money is beyond me." - Lynn 09:04:14 05/14/06 (9)
- Strange indeed! - kerr 14:36:45 05/14/06 (3)
- Strange things do happen... - Lynn 15:11:57 05/14/06 (2)
- All the time! - kerr 17:47:55 05/14/06 (1)
- Stranger still... - Lynn 19:40:07 05/14/06 (0)
- Agreed - chris_w 13:33:09 05/14/06 (0)
- Just curious - E-Stat 10:16:51 05/14/06 (1)
- Hmmm... - Lynn 13:21:05 05/14/06 (0)
- Re: "Why anyone thinks this is better, or worth more money is beyond me." - Dan Banquer 09:58:11 05/14/06 (0)
- You might be mistaking - bjh 09:39:46 05/14/06 (0)