In Reply to: Re: How Does One Prove You Can Hear Different Cables posted by McAttack on May 12, 2006 at 09:09:00:
You're not making any sense."Our ears are the most sophisticated and most sensitive "test" devices on the planet."
-You have proof of that?
"Irrespective of that, the bottom line is how things sound."
Yep! That's the justification for blind tests, that appearance and reputation, and simply the sensory bias for perceiving differences, won't be able to affect the statistics.
"If your friends can not trust their own hearing or care to listen,"
As I've pointed out, those who participate in blind testing are trusting their own ears and only their own ears to be able to differentiate the sound.
"there is nothing you will ever do to convince them of your perceptions."
This "would do" illogic--you in fact do not know what we "would do." It is also quite false, as controlled DBT results could be quite convincing.
In your last sentence, you seem to distinguish "hearing" from "perception." What do you mean by those terms?
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Follow Ups
- Errr . . . when someone participates in a blind test, whose ears to they trust? - Pat D 09:39:13 05/13/06 (33)
- Re: Errr . . . when someone participates in a blind test, whose ears to they trust? - bjh 12:53:18 05/13/06 (32)
- Re: Errr . . . when someone participates in a blind test, whose ears to they trust? - Pat D 13:39:39 05/13/06 (31)
- Pat, the poster didn't wtite ... - bjh 13:53:48 05/13/06 (30)
- Actually McAttack said we don't trust our ears . . . - Pat D 14:30:33 05/13/06 (29)
- Answer This Pat - thetubeguy1954 14:07:02 05/14/06 (22)
- Again, you confuse things. - Pat D 18:00:28 05/14/06 (19)
- Pat Once Again DON"T Answer My Specific Question. - thetubeguy1954 06:06:39 05/15/06 (10)
- He pointed to a post that answers your question completely - real_jj 04:28:42 05/17/06 (0)
- And you ignore the point! Buridan's Donkey - Pat D 07:48:21 05/15/06 (8)
- Re: And you ignore the point! Buridan's Donkey - thetubeguy1954 08:13:05 05/15/06 (7)
- You won't read the answer, yet you complain you don't get one? - real_jj 04:36:46 05/17/06 (3)
- Re: You won't read the answer, yet you complain you don't get one? - thetubeguy1954 10:50:29 05/17/06 (2)
- Re: You won't read the answer, yet you complain you don't get one? - Pat D 07:41:05 05/18/06 (0)
- RTFM - real_jj 04:50:42 05/18/06 (0)
- Let's see if you change your tune when you do a proper blind test. - Pat D 08:41:32 05/15/06 (2)
- Re: Let's see if you change your tune when you do a proper blind test. - thetubeguy1954 11:02:03 05/15/06 (1)
- Re: Let's see if you change your tune when you do a proper blind test. - Pat D 13:33:25 05/15/06 (0)
- "Sighted tests are unreliable for small audible differences, period." 1st article of Faith in Pat's religion. LOL - bjh 19:35:51 05/14/06 (7)
- You do understand science, don't you, bjh? - real_jj 04:42:18 05/17/06 (0)
- You obviously haven't begun to look into this. - Pat D 20:00:48 05/14/06 (5)
- Poor simple Pat, the absence of unanimity of opinion - bjh 20:12:23 05/14/06 (4)
- Deliberate misrepresentation? - Pat D 20:22:03 05/14/06 (3)
- As you are exhibiting manifestly transparent intellectual dishonestly there is no need to continue. Adieu I-Child. nt - bjh 20:27:41 05/14/06 (2)
- You misstate Pat's position and then accuse him of dishonesty? - real_jj 04:46:05 05/17/06 (0)
- I proved my case. You can't prove yours. (nt) - Pat D 20:44:22 05/14/06 (0)
- Re: Answer This Pat - theaudiohobby 16:35:17 05/14/06 (1)
- Re: Answer This Pat - thetubeguy1954 07:26:52 05/15/06 (0)
- Pat, should anyone suggest you *not* use blind testing, or object to - bjh 14:48:23 05/13/06 (5)
- "If your friends can not trust their own hearing or care to listen" - Pat D 18:05:06 05/14/06 (4)
- Pat, you are a complete I-Child! That explains your confusion as to why I don't take your foolish queries seriously. - bjh 20:01:54 05/14/06 (3)
- McAttack said the nonsense. - Pat D 20:10:06 05/14/06 (2)
- More nonsense ... Adieu I-Child. nt - bjh 20:29:15 05/14/06 (1)
- Back to ad hominems again. If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen. (nt) - Pat D 20:54:50 05/14/06 (0)