In Reply to: A CONTROL!! Klaus I am really impressed. posted by Presto on March 19, 2006 at 13:07:42:
Hi.The question is: are you willing to accept his hearing the difference
again this time ?I also bet you'll challenge him to "validate" his sonic findings since you THINK sonic impressions need to be proven.
Like tasting two wines, when one finds one wine taste better than the other. You go on to challenge to "validate" his taste "claim". My question to you is: do you NEED to do so?
Likewise, suppose you were requested to do the sonic test of the 3
identical CDs afterwards. I can safely assume you would "claim" you could not hear any difference basing on your pre-assumption that there is already NO sonic difference there.So I'll request you to "validate" your null finding. Do you think you can substanatiate your null findiing?????
Before you challenge someone's sonic impression, please make sure you can reserve the situation.
Sorry, I don't buy Woodman's so called 'scientific' approach to our aural perception. He 'claims' our 5 senses are "NOT quite real every day of the week".
Give me a break, please. We are human, not a robot controlled by a computer with pre-programmes to standard instructions. There is inevitably sensing 'mobility' in our brain, but definitely no serious enough to upset & even reverse our previous established likeness or unlikeness. Normal person won't behave like this. Am I correct?
What is "real" then? These sensory organs are part of our brain's periperhals to convert outside stimulations, e.g.
hearing from our ears, sight through our eyss & taste through our tongue, to signals that our brain can interprete & understand.So what is "real" according to him, that we can depend on to establish a reference of our aural perception.
Please don't blind me with so called "science", please.
Also, a poster down below challenged me there is a lot of "understaniding about how human hearing works". I never dispute the success so far achieved.
I am interested in how these "undertanding" can apply to help us to comprehend the sonic impression I have with different audio gears.
I demand practical correlation not just theroy in medical textbooks where many here use them to hide behind.
Let me reiterate what my opinion of sonic impression just like tasting food. This is NOT a "claim". If it is a claim, then whoever challenge one's sonic impression is also making a 'claim' of disgreement. So why not come forth with substantiation of such disaccord. Science only works one way & NOT the other way around?
Who fixes such rule? What is science anyway?Right, science is a process of learning the nature by systematic
investigation of OBSERVED material facts. It is alway on going.
Today, we don't know why it sounds like this, may be we know why in the future. Who knows? So why don't we be open-minded to evaluate
the counter opinions instead of insisting on evidences which may not be made available todate.c-J
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Follow Ups
- I bet he'll hear some "difference". (long) - cheap-Jack 09:25:44 03/20/06 (23)
- I think you and others are focusing on the wrong thing. - Presto 11:48:58 03/20/06 (22)
- Great post! - kerr 09:03:37 03/21/06 (2)
- Is this the one you mean? - Presto 19:49:00 03/21/06 (1)
- Yep, that's it - kerr 04:53:58 03/22/06 (0)
- Sorry, you still miss the main point. - cheap-Jack 12:53:46 03/20/06 (18)
- There are *way* too many variables, the experiment is useless. nt - clarkjohnsen 11:10:35 03/21/06 (14)
- Exactly ! - cheap-Jack 12:14:21 03/21/06 (13)
- Yes, and moreover, were one to submit this regimen as establishing proof of the IC, do you know what would happen? nt - clarkjohnsen 07:48:19 03/22/06 (10)
- Sorry, what is "IC" ? - cheap-Jack 08:18:31 03/22/06 (9)
- That would be Intelligent Chip. And... - clarkjohnsen 08:22:47 03/22/06 (8)
- You got my message. Thanks. (nt) - cheap-Jack 08:26:18 03/22/06 (7)
- So, what do you think would happen? (See up the thread.) nt - clarkjohnsen 11:48:34 03/22/06 (6)
- Which thread? (nt) - cheap-Jack 13:30:43 03/22/06 (5)
- *This* thread, silly! nt - clarkjohnsen 09:01:40 03/23/06 (4)
- I'm silly. So pls repost "this thread" so I can comment. (nt) - cheap-Jack 12:30:03 03/23/06 (3)
- http://www.audioasylum.com/forums/prophead/messages/16220.html nt - clarkjohnsen 13:00:43 03/23/06 (2)
- Sorry. I can't retreive it ! (nt) - cheap-Jack 13:45:13 03/23/06 (1)
- Cut & paste. nt - clarkjohnsen 14:51:22 03/23/06 (0)
- Re: Exactly ! - soulfood 15:33:22 03/21/06 (0)
- Correction:- - cheap-Jack 12:28:28 03/21/06 (0)
- The main point is: - Presto 15:52:08 03/20/06 (2)
- Beat it, please! - cheap-Jack 18:10:44 03/20/06 (1)
- Beat it? I am sure you could do better than THAT! - Presto 18:58:07 03/20/06 (0)