In Reply to: Codecs... posted by mkuller on February 9, 2006 at 12:36:33:
I have an iPod Video, and tried Apple Lossless.... I did hear a *strange* sonic artifact.... Subtle changes in pitch (flutter, inflections, vibrato) were attenuated. I had to do a double-take when I first noticed it. I've never before heard a format which removed or greatly reduced the vibrato from a violin or a singer's voice....I then wiped the iPod clean and tried standard non-compressed (AIFF) data, and the music sounded normal again. I've since used only non-compressed formats.
Unlike software, there are no precise data patterns in music. So I question whether "lossless" can truly be lossless.
Digital audio is so damm difficult to get right without manipulating or compressing the data... I think these new compression schemes could create a new nightmare for those striving to attain musical satisfaction via digital formats.
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Follow Ups
- New Cans o' Worms..... - Todd Krieger 02:25:23 02/12/06 (23)
- Re: New Cans o' Worms..... - Jim Austin 17:03:12 02/13/06 (5)
- 'So in practice it's quite possible that Apple lossless is not truly lossless.' - Lynn 17:36:45 02/13/06 (4)
- Re: 'So in practice it's quite possible that Apple lossless is not truly lossless.' - Jim Austin 17:58:12 02/13/06 (3)
- Re: 'So in practice it's quite possible that Apple lossless is not truly lossless.'..Unlikely - theaudiohobby 05:29:58 02/22/06 (2)
- Re: 'So in practice it's quite possible that Apple lossless is not truly lossless.'..Unlikely - Jim Austin 07:27:08 02/22/06 (1)
- Re: 'So in practice it's quite possible that Apple lossless is not truly lossless.'..Unlikely - theaudiohobby 17:25:59 02/22/06 (0)
- If y'all can reproduce that, y'all oughta make a bug report. - Silver Eared John 13:31:41 02/13/06 (0)
- Apple Lossless..... - mkuller 11:15:08 02/12/06 (1)
- Re: Apple Lossless..... - Lynn 13:22:07 02/12/06 (0)
- 'Unlike software, there are no precise data patterns in music. So I question whether "lossless" can truly be lossless.' - Lynn 08:01:55 02/12/06 (8)
- Re: 'Unlike software, there are no precise data patterns in music. So I question whether "lossless" can truly be lossles - Todd Krieger 00:41:30 02/13/06 (6)
- Re: 'Unlike software, there are no precise data patterns in music. So I question whether "lossless" can truly be lossles - Tom Dawson 14:19:47 02/13/06 (0)
- Try this... - Silver Eared John 13:46:58 02/13/06 (0)
- you can personally try this - tunenut 10:00:55 02/13/06 (3)
- "the conversion on-the-fly is likely to exacerbate jitter and add RFI"- no argument there, - Lynn 15:10:34 02/13/06 (2)
- Re: "the conversion on-the-fly is likely to exacerbate jitter and add RFI"- no argument there, - Dan Banquer 16:38:55 02/16/06 (0)
- Your advice is very, very good, Lynn. - Silver Eared John 15:40:46 02/16/06 (0)
- FLAC Testing - Lynn 08:53:35 02/12/06 (0)
- Re: New Cans o' Worms..... - andy19191 04:19:09 02/12/06 (4)
- It is also possible... - Jim Austin 17:00:51 02/13/06 (3)
- Re: It is also possible... - andy19191 23:21:42 02/13/06 (2)
- Andy, your message is mystifying. - Jim Austin 04:02:10 02/14/06 (1)
- Re: Andy, your message is mystifying. - andy19191 05:17:30 02/14/06 (0)