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In Reply to: So Estat chooses to lie, too... posted by Silver Eared John on February 10, 2006 at 21:30:50:
slow down for a moment and reread Mike's question."In designing "lossless" codecs, like MPEG4 (Apple Lossless), are listening tests used, or are the files simply compared?"
That question implies two concepts:
1. The answer must be from the designer's standpoint.
2. The answer relates to the testing process.While you answered a question, it was not Mike's. Let's review your answer.
Lossless, as far as I know, means that the files are bitwise identical input and output.
Let's test your answer against the two implied concepts.
1. Is that answer from a designer's standpoint? No. The question you advance following the answer clarifies that you are not a codec designer.
2. Does that answer address the testing methodology? No. It merely states your understanding as to the definition of a lossless codec.It would seem that you frequently mean something different from what you say. Then retreat to the paranoid "y'all are all lyin' about me" corner.
Let's imagine for a moment that your response was more like this to Mike's response:
I thought I answered your question. I believe that designers simply compare the bitstream as the means of testing as opposed to using listening tests or any other means. Was I not clear in my answer?
That is what language is all about. Clear thoughts and responses free from ambiguity with no need for interpretation. It really shouldn't be all that difficult or adversarial as you frequently make it.
rw
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Follow Ups
- Seriously, John - E-Stat 09:24:59 02/11/06 (18)
- As expected, he failed to address the questions, which you laid out specifically and mannerly.. nt - clarkjohnsen 08:08:30 02/14/06 (1)
- baloney - Silver Eared John 10:27:18 02/14/06 (0)
- Seriously, E-Stat - Silver Eared John 13:51:24 02/13/06 (15)
- Why didn't you just say so or just clarify your statement? - E-Stat 14:47:59 02/13/06 (14)
- Sorry, there, missed the relevant content... - Silver Eared John 15:06:36 02/15/06 (12)
- Lemme 'splain sumtin' to ya Jawn - E-Stat 16:57:52 02/15/06 (11)
- Yeah, I just said that. - Silver Eared John 18:08:59 02/15/06 (10)
- But y'all's not a gittin' the idee hyer - E-Stat 18:46:49 02/15/06 (9)
- Y'all need to study a bit, fella - Silver Eared John 10:37:48 02/16/06 (8)
- Clouding the issue with facts? - Dan Banquer 14:16:46 02/16/06 (4)
- Oh, geeze, man... - Silver Eared John 15:41:52 02/16/06 (3)
- Re: Oh, heck John; - Dan Banquer 15:53:31 02/16/06 (2)
- Y'all think? - Silver Eared John 17:08:01 02/16/06 (1)
- Got it. - Dan Banquer 05:30:51 02/17/06 (0)
- C'mon John - E-Stat 11:32:39 02/16/06 (2)
- Yeah, it does require some "computational balls"... - Silver Eared John 15:40:04 02/16/06 (1)
- Right (nt) - E-Stat 15:56:46 02/16/06 (0)
- Well, shucks, who threw the first stone, stat? - Silver Eared John 18:57:09 02/13/06 (0)
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