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Re: Good Response Soundmind.

"It is incorrect because if the distortion is too small to be audible then the perception of the sound is not degraded."

Please tell me where that level lies. See my post above for the whole discussion.

"You are being dishonest. I asked: "How do you square this with significant numbers of people prefering the sound of a heavily distorting valve amplifiers to an inaudibly distorting solid state amplifier?" The assumption here is that heavily distorting valve amplifiers exist (e.g. SET amplifiers) and people exist who prefer their sound to undistorting solid state amplifiers (e.g. those who have paid a lot of money for SET amplifiers). Do you deny this?"

I am never dishonest. You are the one using the word heavily distorting not me. IMO SET amps run within their true power limits are not heavily distorting. That is my point. Of course there are many people who prefer the sound SET amps...and with good reason.

"I asked: "How do you square this with significant numbers of people prefering the sound of a heavily distorting valve amplifiers to an inaudibly distorting solid state amplifier?" The assumption here is that inaudibly distorting solid state amplifiers exist in significant numbers but not that all solid state amplifiers are inaudibly distorting which is obviously nonsense. Do you deny this"

Do I deny what? Sorry I am not understanding the point you are trying to make here. I do deny that there exists any amp on the market that is inaudibly distorting. Is that what you mean?


"It would appear to follow from this that you are stating that a competently designed solid state amplifier operating well away from clipping and into a relative benign load so that it can maintain inaudile levels of distortion is audibly damaging the sound? If so, how"

There you go again assuming that the distortion it is generating is inaudible. I dispute this. It will make distortion and I would argue that it is audible. Therefore it is damaging to the sound.


"Why if the sound is degraded by low levels of distortion do all amplifiers, whether valve or solid state, that achieve these low levels of distortion sound indistinguishable from each other"

They do? Again, most here, including myself would disagree with this statement. You seem to think I accept your basic premise that all low distortion amps sound the same but I do not.


"Or do you perhaps believe that all levels of distortion in all amplifiers are audible"

All levels? Probably not. Much lower than is generally given credit, yes.


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