In Reply to: Re: DBTs don't have any time limits...except for the patience of the guy conducting it. All it has to be is fair. nt posted by Soundmind on June 4, 2006 at 00:49:01:
For the record, I don't have any anti-DBT bias that I'm aware of. I believe I have shed far more blood here at AA arguing with the subjectivists on this subject than I have with the objectivists.
I have great appreciation for the scientific method. I would be wholly ineffective as a trial lawyer in presenting expert testimony and cross examining experts if I didn't appreciate the importance of objective verification.You ask okiemax why he wouldn't want to know. The answer for me is that objectivity in choosing components or cables for my own personal system is not my goal. Objectivity can't measure my personal, subjective enjoyment - and my personal, subjective enjoyment is the only thing that matters to me behind closed doors in the privacy of my own listening room - just as it is behind the closed doors in the privacy of my own bedroom.
A scientic opinion poll of men my age regarding the relative merits or shortcomings of my wife would have nothing to do with my enjoyment in the bedroom. Nor would my ability to pick her out in a DBT mean anthing to me - although it sure sounds like it would be a lot more fun than trying to prove that I can distinguish Monster Cable from Cardas in a DBT.
There is no one on this board that has done more to fight for the application of the scientific method to high end audio than Steve Eddy. And yet, I believe he understands and appreciates my position on this subject - for what that might be worth.
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- Re: DBTs don't have any time limits...except for the patience of the guy conducting it. All it has to be is fair. nt - Phil Tower 08:27:56 06/04/06 (27)
- Re: DBTs don't have any time limits...except for the patience of the guy conducting it. All it has to be is fair. nt - Soundmind 08:39:06 06/04/06 (26)
- Re: DBTs don't have any time limits...except for the patience of the guy conducting it. All it has to be is fair. nt - Phil Tower 15:19:09 06/04/06 (0)
- What I believe (very long post) - Phil Tower 15:07:57 06/04/06 (24)
- You call that a long post? Risch once had one on AR which took 9 boards...and said nothing...as usual ;-) nt - Soundmind 17:19:13 06/04/06 (21)
- Don't get me started on Risch. That's when I really start to get myself in trouble around here. (NT) - Phil Tower 20:08:24 06/04/06 (20)
- You mean you really don't see eye to eye with Jon Risch? - Soundmind 11:23:05 06/05/06 (19)
- Re: You mean you really don't see eye to eye with Jon Risch? - Phil Tower 17:03:19 06/05/06 (13)
- Re: You mean you really don't see eye to eye with Jon Risch? - Pat D 20:29:47 06/05/06 (7)
- Re: You mean you really don't see eye to eye with Jon Risch? - Phil Tower 20:44:57 06/05/06 (6)
- Re: You mean you really don't see eye to eye with Jon Risch? - Soundmind 06:25:36 06/06/06 (5)
- Um, was that the fallacy of the excluded middle, soundmind? - real_jj 12:37:52 06/06/06 (3)
- you are absolutely correct - Soundmind 16:07:49 06/06/06 (2)
- Re: You mean you really don't see eye to eye with Jon Risch? - Phil Tower 10:17:43 06/06/06 (0)
- Re: You mean you really don't see eye to eye with Jon Risch? - Soundmind 18:00:02 06/05/06 (4)
- Re: You mean you really don't see eye to eye with Jon Risch? - Phil Tower 18:24:13 06/05/06 (1)
- Re: You mean you really don't see eye to eye with Jon Risch? - Soundmind 18:46:42 06/05/06 (0)
- Re: You mean you really don't see eye to eye with Jon Risch? - Soundmind 18:14:48 06/05/06 (1)
- Re: You mean you really don't see eye to eye with Jon Risch? - john curl 10:58:53 06/09/06 (0)
- Re: You mean you really don't see eye to eye with Jon Risch? - Phil Tower 16:25:47 06/05/06 (4)
- Re: You mean you really don't see eye to eye with Jon Risch? - Soundmind 17:50:54 06/05/06 (3)
- Re: You mean you really don't see eye to eye with Jon Risch? - Phil Tower 18:12:50 06/05/06 (2)
- Re: You mean you really don't see eye to eye with Jon Risch? - Soundmind 18:39:36 06/05/06 (1)
- Re: You mean you really don't see eye to eye with Jon Risch? - Phil Tower 20:51:12 06/05/06 (0)
- Re: What I believe (very long post) - Soundmind 16:11:57 06/04/06 (1)
- Re: What I believe (very long post) - Phil Tower 20:05:52 06/04/06 (0)