In Reply to: I find it curious..... posted by Phil Tower on June 3, 2006 at 13:09:43:
When did that become a proven requirement to differentiate human hearing? Someone just made that excuse up and this rhetoric keeps getting repeated by those who fail blind tests.It seems many confuse (A) listening for personal preferences testing with that of (B) listening to detect an audible difference between components. For type A, long term is a reasonable requirement. But for type B testing, where is the evidence that long term is required? If anything the evidence shows just the opposite – short term is the most reliable method.
1 – There is overwhelming evidence that long term human memory for sound characteristics is extremely poor (compared to vision or smell). For example if you go to a party and meet 10 people, you’re not going to identify their voices the next week. But you’ll probably easily identify all 10 photos. So if sound memory is unreliable and poor, what exactly are audiophiles comparing to for several months?
2 – Go to Cables or Tweaks (or even Stereophile) and read how often testimonials are given from immediate comparisons when “sighted†(“The improvement was immediately obvious…â€, “The silver cable was clearly too bright…â€). But why does short-term discriminatory ability suddenly vanish when blind?
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Follow Ups
- Ah...the unproven long term listening excuse - Caymus 20:48:06 06/03/06 (26)
- Ear training - rditmars 08:53:27 06/05/06 (8)
- You’re confusing PITCH MEMORY with SOUND MEMORY - Caymus 14:31:02 06/05/06 (1)
- Re: You’re confusing PITCH MEMORY with SOUND MEMORY - rditmars 18:41:10 06/05/06 (0)
- Training - real_jj 11:53:12 06/05/06 (0)
- Re: Ear training - Dan Banquer 10:19:57 06/05/06 (4)
- You bet... - real_jj 12:12:37 06/05/06 (3)
- Re: You bet... - Dan Banquer 12:40:53 06/05/06 (2)
- Curiously enough... - real_jj 22:09:44 06/05/06 (1)
- Re: Curiously enough... - Dan Banquer 09:00:50 06/06/06 (0)
- Re: Ah...the unproven long term listening excuse - thetubeguy1954 08:09:24 06/05/06 (0)
- Proof is fleeting! - soulfood 07:43:36 06/04/06 (11)
- Why is so hard for some audiophiles to understand - Caymus 19:52:13 06/04/06 (1)
- There's a distinction between understanding and agreeing. - soulfood 09:24:25 06/05/06 (0)
- Re: Proof is fleeting! - Phil Tower 08:11:34 06/04/06 (8)
- Re: Proof is fleeting! - soulfood 08:27:45 06/04/06 (7)
- Re: Time is fleeting! - Madness Takes Control! - real_jj 12:00:30 06/05/06 (6)
- Wrong address, this is an 'audio' asylum. (nt) - soulfood 14:35:56 06/05/06 (5)
- It's astounding! - real_jj 18:17:26 06/05/06 (4)
- It may be too late. - soulfood 19:14:03 06/05/06 (3)
- Doctor! Who? - real_jj 22:10:10 06/05/06 (2)
- Whew! Welcome back. - soulfood 08:15:17 06/06/06 (1)
- I think it was the guy in the elevator... - real_jj 08:26:48 06/06/06 (0)
- Re: Ah...the unproven long term listening excuse - Phil Tower 07:41:05 06/04/06 (3)
- Err. AMEN - real_jj 12:01:40 06/05/06 (2)
- Re: Err. AMEN - Phil Tower 17:25:17 06/05/06 (1)
- Well, I do this for a living... - real_jj 12:36:32 06/06/06 (0)