In defence of Bishop, stereo after about 50 years still also lack a standard - Ole Lund Christensen

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Topic - Surround Playback Recommendations - Michael Bishop 11:33:29 11/29/05 (102)

Michael thanks for bringing us such wonderful SACDs with a dedicated 2 channel high resolution mix. - Teresa 18:40:57 11/30/05 (2)

Have you never tried 3 fornt channels? - csuzor 21:45:23 11/30/05 (1)

Problem is the center speaker, unless you have room for a dedicated only music room. - Teresa 22:19:37 11/30/05 (0)

The elephant in the room... - Jim Treanor 13:48:49 11/30/05 (11)

Reflections on this thread. - Jim Treanor 15:00:12 12/01/05 (1)

Nice post - Robert C. Lang 22:26:33 12/01/05 (0)

Re: The elephant in the room... - Skeptic 14:01:07 11/30/05 (8)

Guys, gals, it's not that bad... it even sounds better (as Michael says) - csuzor 15:06:22 11/30/05 (4)

You don't get it - Skeptic 16:27:31 11/30/05 (3)

If you're a believer in ambience-only retrieval for surrounds then it ain't so bad... - oscar 17:31:23 11/30/05 (2)

It's not as simple as that ... - Christine Tham 23:10:11 11/30/05 (1)

What do you mean "mathematically based on the ITU config."? - Goldsmith88 14:15:52 12/07/05 (0)

Is there a "standard" room? - robert young 14:11:57 11/30/05 (2)

Re: Is there a "standard" room? - Frank.. 00:03:28 12/01/05 (1)

That was my point exactly. - robert young 06:29:54 12/01/05 (0)

This is a pleasant suprise... - Visterel 10:44:26 11/30/05 (1)

I'd say it's more a matter of not caring about the customer - Skeptic 13:11:08 11/30/05 (0)

Excellent document, thanks Michael. Further questions. - csuzor 06:59:51 11/30/05 (42)

Re: Excellent document, thanks Michael. Further questions. - Christine Tham 19:48:21 11/30/05 (40)

Re: Excellent document, thanks Michael. Further questions. - John Kotches 06:05:43 12/01/05 (17)

Re: Excellent document, thanks Michael. Further questions. - Christine Tham 15:04:13 12/02/05 (16)

Re: Excellent document, thanks Michael. Further questions. - John Kotches 16:29:42 12/03/05 (15)

Re: Excellent document, thanks Michael. Further questions. - Christine Tham 16:54:51 12/03/05 (14)

Re: Excellent document, thanks Michael. Further questions. - John Kotches 03:05:38 12/04/05 (1)

Re: Excellent document, thanks Michael. Further questions. - Christine Tham 21:44:03 12/04/05 (0)

Re: Excellent document, thanks Michael. Further questions. - Martin419 01:56:48 12/04/05 (11)

Re: Excellent document, thanks Michael. Further questions. - Christine Tham 22:41:47 12/04/05 (10)

Sorry - Christine Tham 22:45:31 12/04/05 (9)

Re: Sorry - Dave Kingsland 09:33:54 12/05/05 (2)

Oops :-) you're right - it's watts rather than power (nt) - Christine Tham 11:11:59 12/05/05 (1)

You don't need 10000W, just 256W - Jack100 16:05:30 12/16/05 (0)

"Root-Mean-Square" (RMS) versus "peak-to-peak" wattage . . . - Martin419 08:15:29 12/05/05 (5)

You're partially right - Christine Tham 11:38:07 12/05/05 (4)

Re: You're partially right - Martin419 12:31:30 12/05/05 (3)

Re: You're partially right - Christine Tham 15:04:45 12/05/05 (2)

Re: You're partially right - Martin419 02:31:46 12/06/05 (1)

Re: You're partially right - Christine Tham 15:39:16 12/06/05 (0)

Bass management on the preamp is not sound degrading - csuzor 21:36:55 11/30/05 (21)

Bass management is *always* sound degrading - Christine Tham 22:52:12 11/30/05 (20)

Bass management or LFE low-pass filtering is required if using a sub - csuzor 08:18:06 12/01/05 (19)

Re: Bass management or LFE low-pass filtering is required if using a sub - Christine Tham 14:50:03 12/02/05 (17)

Re: Bass management or LFE low-pass filtering is required if using a sub - Robert C. Lang 18:26:34 12/02/05 (16)

Bass management case study . . . - Martin419 10:34:18 12/03/05 (11)

Re: Bass management case study . . . - Robert C. Lang 15:47:02 12/03/05 (8)

Re: Bass management case study . . . - Martin419 04:26:23 12/04/05 (7)

Re: Bass management case study . . . - Robert C. Lang 11:53:25 12/04/05 (6)

Re: Bass management case study . . . - Martin419 12:26:35 12/04/05 (5)

Re: Bass management case study . . . - Robert C. Lang 12:58:06 12/04/05 (4)

Re: Bass management case study . . . - Martin419 05:42:53 12/05/05 (3)

DVD-A and SACD - Robert C. Lang 15:14:01 12/05/05 (2)

Re: DVD-A and SACD - csuzor 05:22:19 12/07/05 (1)

Re: DVD-A and SACD - Robert C. Lang 09:25:24 12/07/05 (0)

Thankfully, at least one engineer "gets it" (nt) - Dave Kingsland 13:52:35 12/03/05 (1)

Re: Thankfully, at least one engineer "gets it" (nt) - Martin419 16:37:47 12/03/05 (0)

Re: Bass management or LFE low-pass filtering is required if using a sub - Christine Tham 21:12:08 12/02/05 (3)

Re: Bass management or LFE low-pass filtering is required if using a sub - Dave Kingsland 10:59:26 12/03/05 (1)

That's not as bad as you think - Christine Tham 15:08:42 12/03/05 (0)

Some examples of "surprising" results I found for my room ... - Christine Tham 22:16:11 12/02/05 (0)

The LFE channel should not be used for music - Dave Kingsland 11:43:25 12/01/05 (0)

Re: Excellent document, thanks Michael. Further questions. - John Kotches 07:37:13 11/30/05 (0)

Re: Surround Playback Recommendations - Robert C. Lang 22:40:26 11/29/05 (2)

Re: Surround Playback Recommendations - John Kotches 07:19:48 11/30/05 (0)

Re: Surround Playback Recommendations - pann 06:50:25 11/30/05 (0)

Re: Surround Playback Recommendations - oscar 17:38:00 11/29/05 (3)

Re: Surround Playback Recommendations - Michael Bishop 18:55:05 11/29/05 (2)

Re: Surround Playback Recommendations - John Kotches 19:39:41 11/29/05 (1)

Re: Surround Playback Recommendations - John Kotches 19:42:50 11/29/05 (0)

NARAS recommendations - Skeptic 14:21:51 11/29/05 (1)

Re: Surround Playback Recommendations - Christine Tham 14:15:32 11/29/05 (33)

Re: Surround Playback Recommendations - John Kotches 19:41:43 11/29/05 (23)

True, but you've missed my point - Christine Tham 20:36:37 11/29/05 (22)

Re: True, but you've missed my point - John Kotches 13:05:40 12/01/05 (1)

Re: True, but you've missed my point - Christine Tham 14:30:24 12/02/05 (0)

Denon... - Frank.. 00:36:57 11/30/05 (19)

Re: Denon... - Christine Tham 18:34:52 11/30/05 (7)

Reflections... - Frank.. 00:19:43 12/01/05 (6)

Re: Reflections... - Christine Tham 14:27:03 12/02/05 (2)

Re: Reflections... - Frank.. 00:25:37 12/05/05 (1)

Re: Reflections... - Christine Tham 11:53:20 12/05/05 (0)

Of course, that depends on how much later they arrive. (NT) - Kal Rubinson 08:40:00 12/01/05 (2)

The later the better... - Frank.. 10:45:41 12/01/05 (1)

To a degree. - Kal Rubinson 12:53:15 12/01/05 (0)

Speaker distance - Michael Bishop 06:35:51 11/30/05 (10)

Re: Speaker distance - Christine Tham 18:25:50 11/30/05 (8)

In China, he will surely face execution (NT) - tunenut 10:37:59 12/03/05 (5)

You meant 'Singapore' surely? n.t. - Martin419 09:04:03 12/04/05 (4)

I hate to think what would happen to poor Michael in Guantanomo Bay (nt) - Christine Tham 22:47:34 12/04/05 (3)

He'd have to produce a surround recording of the inmates singing the Koran. ;-) n.t. - Martin419 07:13:56 12/05/05 (2)

and if not done in ITU, well, we don't use "torture" but.... (NT) - tunenut 10:52:27 12/05/05 (1)

. . . he'd have to issue a videotaped confession that he really prefers PCM over DSD. ;-) n.t. - Martin419 11:43:05 12/05/05 (0)

If the legal implications.. - Frank.. 00:32:32 12/01/05 (1)

That's because you are probably not trained or familiar with the law ... - Christine Tham 15:39:38 12/02/05 (0)

Sensationalist idealism vs pragmatism - paulcordingley 17:41:34 11/30/05 (0)

I am wondering about the 60 degrees - Skeptic 16:53:10 11/29/05 (4)

Sorry, 30 degrees each side - Michael Bishop 18:24:25 11/29/05 (2)

I'm really glad you clarified that 30 degrees from center is correct;nt - Pacman 18:37:50 11/29/05 (1)

agreed - Skeptic 19:14:44 11/29/05 (0)

Re: I am wondering about the 60 degrees - Craig 17:43:06 11/29/05 (0)

In defence of Bishop, stereo after about 50 years still also lack a standard - Ole Lund Christensen 14:57:31 11/29/05 (3)

Sorry, but your points are all irrelevant - Christine Tham 15:50:11 11/29/05 (2)

I find this thread highly entertaining.... - Chris Garrett 09:24:24 12/02/05 (1)

Speaker positioning - Robert C. Lang 18:49:25 12/02/05 (0)

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In defence of Bishop, stereo after about 50 years still also lack a standard - Ole Lund Christensen 14:57:31 11/29/05 (3)

Sorry, but your points are all irrelevant - Christine Tham 15:50:11 11/29/05 (2)

I find this thread highly entertaining.... - Chris Garrett 09:24:24 12/02/05 (1)

Speaker positioning - Robert C. Lang 18:49:25 12/02/05 (0)