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Re: "I'm an Engineer and You're Not".......

I was never one to want to bring up credentials and it was only recently that I felt forced to. I believe that what ones says or doesn't say especially in this kind of forum should rise or fall on its own merits. It's a false arguement to say "I am right because I am an engineer and you are wrong because you are not." In fact I find it reprehensible and I certainly hope that I never gave anyone the impression that I felt that way. However, when people enter a technical discussion which is what most of this particular forum is about where complex technical matters are at issue and they cannot back up their views with widely accepted physical facts or the types of technical arguements those who have been trained accept to draw conclusions with, then it is impossible for the discussion to proceed any further at least with that individual. An equally reprehensible attitude is; "I think what I think and therefore I am as right as anyone because everyone is entitled to an opinion and since all men are created equal, the validity of all arguements is also equal" just doesn't cut it. E-Stat brought this discussion up I think, and I know John Curl had a discusion with Audiotubeguy or someone about it. E-Stat asserted his qualifications to state what is a valid and not valid arguement because he is a software engineer. That's how this matter of whether software engineers are engineers in the usually accepted sense as electrical, mechanical, civil engineers are came up and how I came to examine it. I think I have added elsewhere that not only do non engineers often (but not always) lack the detailed training to be familiar with most of the technical arguements germaine to a technical issue, but engineers in one field of specialization are often little or no more schooled than non engineers when the issue is somewhere outside their own area of expertise. So we do have to be careful about that. Often, as was the case with the discussion of Fourier analysis and the equivalence of FR and transient rise time, people who have no background in this special area of mathematics which EE students are forced to digest and regurgitate endlessly take strong exception to arguements which are quite frankly beyond question. And worst of all, for them it becomes an emotional, not a technical issue. How do you tell them gently but convincingly that they are out of their depth? It's a truth some people just can't accept.

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