In Reply to: Blinded by science? posted by tomservo on June 23, 2006 at 08:15:30:
Tom, I see you are still stuck in the belief you already measure everything that can be measured or needs to be measured! You may think it’s funny when I suggest there is something hiding from the measurements you're using, hence you don’t & can’t see it!You may have, after using a TEF machine for 20 years, the overwhelmingly strong impression there is a huge blizzard of information, but you COULD still be missing something in spite of all that information you receive!
Again I ask, what is it about live music that allows one to know almost instantly it's live and not recorded? "IF" your "huge blizzard of information" revealed what that was you'd be implementing it so your speakers would be indistinguishable from live music. Yet I hear no one make that claim about your speakers or of any other component for that matter! Apparently your "huge blizzard of information" hasn't yet revealed what that is to anyone who manufactuers any audio component.
What's really funny is how the scientists and audio designers here in PHP all dug in their heels and firmly resolved like Dan Banquer " I'm not going near your "Gestalt" with a 10 ft pole" or like you say in so many words Tom, that we already know what needs to be known using the tests we presently use.
You are all behaving like Sir Arthur Eddington did when a young man first suggested "black holes" exist. Sir Arthur Eddington sneered so viciously, so continuously at the young man that that explanation was suppressed from general knowledge for nearly forty years.
You keep talking about the "huge blizzard of information" revealed. Our eyes also take in a "huge blizzard of information" but switch to ultra violet or infa red and lo and behold we now see a "huge blizzard of information" revealed that was previously hidden.
I'm amazed at how stubborn the Objectivists here are to the possibility of there being something they are missing using todays measurements that might just influence how we judge what's live and recorded.
Thetubeguy1954
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Follow Ups
- You're Blinded By Believing The Science Being Used Reveal Everything! - thetubeguy1954 13:10:24 06/23/06 (29)
- Re: You're Blinded By Believing The Science Being Used Reveal Everything! - tomservo 14:49:12 06/23/06 (3)
- Re: You're Blinded By Believing The Science Being Used Reveal Everything! - thetubeguy1954 10:44:54 06/26/06 (2)
- Re: You're Blinded By Believing The Science Being Used Reveal Everything! - tomservo 11:13:03 06/27/06 (1)
- Re: You're Blinded By Believing The Science Being Used Reveal Everything! - thetubeguy1954 15:42:46 06/27/06 (0)
- Re: You're Blinded By Believing The Science Being Used Reveal Everything! - Soundmind 14:35:50 06/23/06 (5)
- Re: You're Blinded By Believing The Science Being Used Reveal Everything! - Todd Krieger 14:45:49 06/23/06 (4)
- We just went through this nonsense with Cheever's weighting of harmonic distortion components ad nauseum - Soundmind 15:48:57 06/23/06 (3)
- Re: We just went through this nonsense with Cheever's weighting of harmonic distortion components ad nauseum - john curl 20:33:33 06/23/06 (2)
- Hey, John, why not look up "PEAQ"? - real_jj 11:16:18 07/10/06 (0)
- You can reinvent the wheel a million different ways Mr. Curl but it's not going to get any rounder - Soundmind 04:16:13 06/24/06 (0)
- Re: You're Blinded By Believing The Science Being Used Reveal Everything! - Todd Krieger 14:16:25 06/23/06 (18)
- And the problem is .................. - Dan Banquer 06:41:23 06/24/06 (17)
- Re: And the problem is .................. - Todd Krieger 16:50:42 06/24/06 (16)
- Well,show us a testable, verifiable alternative... - Silver Eared John 18:50:58 06/24/06 (15)
- Re: Well,show us a testable, verifiable proof - tomservo 07:44:32 06/25/06 (6)
- Re: Well,show us a testable, verifiable proof - krabapple 08:49:23 06/26/06 (0)
- Re: Well,show us a testable, verifiable proof - Soundmind 08:38:17 06/25/06 (4)
- Re: Well,show us a testable, verifiable proof - tomservo 10:40:35 06/25/06 (3)
- Re: Well,show us a testable, verifiable proof - Soundmind 12:28:44 06/25/06 (2)
- Re: Well,show us a testable, verifiable proof - tomservo 13:20:35 06/25/06 (1)
- This discussion is NOT suitable for this forum. I'd be happy to take it up further "Outside" where it's appropriate nt - Soundmind 15:27:07 06/25/06 (0)
- Don't hold breath your breath SEJ. - Dan Banquer 07:22:38 06/25/06 (7)
- You're Wrong Once Again Dan..... - thetubeguy1954 09:02:40 06/25/06 (6)
- You've proved me right once again........... - Dan Banquer 11:31:31 06/25/06 (5)
- Typical Objectivist BS Lie & lie - thetubeguy1954 14:08:16 06/26/06 (4)
- I'm not interested in a DBT........... - Dan Banquer 16:19:23 06/26/06 (3)
- Re: I'm not interested in a DBT........... - thetubeguy1954 06:08:38 06/28/06 (2)
- Re: I'm not interested in a DBT........... - Dan Banquer 09:21:04 06/28/06 (1)
- Stick With Your ORIGINAL Topic & Stop Running - thetubeguy1954 10:20:55 06/29/06 (0)