In Reply to: Since DBTs are so great, why then do precious few audio manufacturers ever mention them? posted by E-Stat on June 6, 2006 at 11:07:50:
The great difficulty audiophiles have differentiating among electronic components and wires when they play music at the same volumes with the brand names hidden ... is strong evidence contradicting the unproven golden ear belief that all components sound different.An informed customer would be much more likely to spend his upgrade money on better speakers and room treatments that have audible effects on the sound quality (in both blind and sighted auditions).
Less upgrade money would be spent on electronics, and especially wires, because differences are so easily imagined, or small SPL differences are mistaken to be meaningful sound quality differences.
Only transducer manufacturers would benefit from blind tests ... and since there are no arguments over audibility of differences among speakers and cartridges, why should they bother proving what everybody already believes?
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Richard BassNut Greene
My Stereo is MUCH BETTER than Your Stereo
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Follow Ups
- A straight answer: DBT's are strong evidence not all components sound different & most manufacturers don't like that - Richard BassNut Greene 10:14:01 06/09/06 (28)
- Just curious-if you made an amp that sounded exactly like a Krell or Bryston at 1/5 price why wouldn't you advertise it? - Soundmind 17:11:39 06/11/06 (1)
- People at the lower price point wouldn't know Krell / Bryston & people interested in Krell / Bryston wouldn't believe it - Richard BassNut Greene 16:38:46 06/15/06 (0)
- Why shouldn't there be differences? - unclestu52 14:44:07 06/10/06 (8)
- Yes, but can humans actually hear every difference? - Caymus 15:16:34 06/11/06 (1)
- Could you please - unclestu52 20:13:18 06/11/06 (0)
- People willing to experiment find they have a much harder time hearing differences than expected - Richard BassNut Greene 13:24:39 06/11/06 (5)
- Actually I do a lot of experimentation. - unclestu52 20:54:11 06/11/06 (4)
- Are you forgetting the "Wanting to Hear Differences Bias"? - Richard BassNut Greene 10:15:44 06/13/06 (3)
- What if you didn't want to hear a difference? - unclestu52 13:44:22 06/13/06 (2)
- I've never met anyone who did not want to hear a difference - Richard BassNut Greene 09:23:38 06/14/06 (1)
- Your position has been duly noted (NT) - unclestu52 10:46:16 06/14/06 (0)
- Re: A straight answer: DBT's are strong evidence not all components sound different & most manufacturers don't like th - Tom Dawson 13:03:22 06/09/06 (16)
- Any amps with tubes will have more distortion and will distort the frequency response - Richard BassNut Greene 13:52:17 06/09/06 (15)
- You can refute Richard's universal statement with a single counterexample, - Pat D 10:19:59 06/10/06 (1)
- Posted in the wrong place. - Pat D 14:43:35 06/10/06 (0)
- Re: Any amps with tubes will have more distortion and will distort the frequency response - Soundmind 20:20:46 06/09/06 (3)
- Re: Any amps with tubes will have more distortion and will distort the frequency response - Tom Dawson 20:42:25 06/09/06 (2)
- Re: Any amps with tubes will have more distortion and will distort the frequency response - Soundmind 04:05:19 06/10/06 (1)
- Re: Any amps with tubes will have more distortion and will distort the frequency response - Tom Dawson 19:45:51 06/11/06 (0)
- " Any amps with tubes..." - sounds like blatant anti-thermionic bias to me.... - Tom Dawson 15:05:58 06/09/06 (8)
- I've seen a lot of reviews of tube amps with a high output impedance. - Pat D 18:48:50 06/09/06 (7)
- OTL = output transformerless (nt) - andy_c 19:28:25 06/09/06 (1)
- Thanks for the information. (nt) - Pat D 06:59:33 06/16/06 (0)
- Re: I've seen a lot of reviews of tube amps with a high output impedance. - Tom Dawson 19:23:08 06/09/06 (4)
- Re: I've seen a lot of reviews of tube amps with a high output impedance. - theaudiohobby 10:59:43 06/11/06 (2)
- Re: I've seen a lot of reviews of tube amps with a high output impedance. - Tom Dawson 19:47:30 06/12/06 (0)
- Explanation of falling distortion with reduced output - Soundmind 04:48:11 06/12/06 (0)
- You can refute Richard's universal statement with a single counterexample, - Pat D 14:42:24 06/10/06 (0)