In Reply to: "It still remains that sighted listening is less reliable than controlled DBTs." That's an assertion; or is there proof? posted by clarkjohnsen on December 21, 2005 at 09:10:14:
I too saw and posted a response in the original thread yesterday, and I too am a little disturbed at its disappearance.I don't object to moving things to a different forum if that forum is considered more appropriate. I don't object to closing a thread if it has become nasty. I do object to the removal of a whole thread which contained nothing contentious which I could see, without any mention of why that has occurred.
If something in the thread transgressed the rules, then that should be dealt with and removing the offending post is appropriate, but the message involved should be replaced by a notice saying why it was removed, otherwise how are inmates going to appreciate just what the rules are.
The only possible reason I could see which could be advanced for the removal of the original thread is the one relating to use of copyright material which states:
"You can't post copyrighted material or a reproduction of registered trade/service marks without permission from the author or owner. For example, this means that, without prior permission, you may not post a verbatim copy of an equipment review from an audio magazine or e-zine, or an image of a manufacturer's trademarked logo."
I don't think that rule was applicable for the following reasons:
- posting of selected quotes does not constitute a 'verbatim copy'; and
- copyright law allows publication of quotes for critical purposes - brief quotes were made and criticised so it would seem that the use made of copyright material was legal, and I have seen other threads where such use of copyright material was allowed.As for transferring Clark's current post to Propeller Head Plaza, that raises an interesting question. The role of this forum is "Technical and scientific discussion of amps, cables and other topics" so I feel impelled to ask whether a discussion of what happened to a particular post, which is what Clark's post here is about, is regarded as a 'technical and scientific' discussion' though I will admit that it does count as something that is an 'other topic'.
David Aiken
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Follow Ups
- For the Bored - David Aiken 12:27:35 12/21/05 (29)
- I too am disapointed - Chris_F 15:00:16 12/21/05 (27)
- What is "sighted"? -- the original deleted Chris F post - clarkjohnsen 08:47:55 12/22/05 (26)
- Thank you Clark! - Chris_F 07:03:10 12/23/05 (25)
- Wine and me. Trust me: - clarkjohnsen 10:27:39 12/23/05 (24)
- Expectations - David Aiken 11:22:48 12/23/05 (11)
- Exactly. - markrohr 05:21:22 12/24/05 (5)
- DBT guys DO NOT WANT TO HEAR THAT!! nt - clarkjohnsen 10:05:29 12/24/05 (4)
- Nor will they answer it, apparently. nt - markrohr 06:03:51 12/25/05 (3)
- Now, don't lie like that... - Silver Eared John 08:23:15 12/25/05 (2)
- Mark Rohr sez: "...every ill-mannered, obdurate, condescending, and reliably content-free post you've made here." - clarkjohnsen 11:21:29 12/26/05 (0)
- Best lay off the eggnog. - markrohr 18:02:31 12/25/05 (0)
- "And expectations can be present in a blind test." Absolutely! Good point. A story: - clarkjohnsen 11:45:13 12/23/05 (4)
- I do that all the time! - Chris_F 14:24:15 12/23/05 (3)
- There was a *very funny* Peter Sellers movie about you... nt - clarkjohnsen 09:44:01 12/24/05 (2)
- Re: There was a *very funny* Peter Sellers movie about you... nt - Chris_F 14:45:12 12/24/05 (1)
- He was a time-and-motion-study man. Always with the stopwatch and the wary eye. Very funny. nt - clarkjohnsen 11:13:04 12/26/05 (0)
- A Golliath in David clothing. - Chris_F 11:22:17 12/23/05 (11)
- "I propose that a blind test is more valid." I'll see you halfway. - clarkjohnsen 11:55:27 12/23/05 (10)
- Now who all did that, Mister? - Silver Eared John 16:36:19 12/23/05 (2)
- "Transparency" employed ironic quotemarks, not quoting quotemarks. nt - clarkjohnsen 09:46:32 12/24/05 (1)
- And y'all accuse thers of weaselling? - Silver Eared John 17:36:29 12/24/05 (0)
- Bloodlust of the DBT savages? - Chris_F 14:21:01 12/23/05 (6)
- Just some colorful language referring to their always being at one's throat... - clarkjohnsen 09:35:17 12/24/05 (5)
- Re: Just some colorful language referring to their always being at one's throat... - Chris_F 14:33:23 12/24/05 (4)
- "I do not believe it likely that I would hear an improvement." What's belief got to do with it? - clarkjohnsen 11:11:49 12/26/05 (3)
- Do y'all know what science is? - Silver Eared John 23:27:33 12/26/05 (2)
- Hmm... Degree in physics, over twenty years experience in remote imaging... I sure know what science *isn't*. nt - clarkjohnsen 09:07:49 12/27/05 (1)
- Re: Hmm... Degree in physics, over twenty years experience in remote imaging... I sure know what science *isn't*. nt - Silver Eared John 19:07:32 12/27/05 (0)
- Agree on all points. nt - markrohr 13:38:30 12/21/05 (0)