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In Reply to: on the other hand...... posted by dwk on January 19, 2007 at 07:31:04:
I guess I thought it was rather obvious that these were my opinions; however, they are based on a lot of listening experience with all the technologies I have described. It is also not only listening that is important and making observations. It is thinking about the meaning of those observations and how they apply back to the reference of live music. It is about thinking about what is the real impact of a particular technology on the audio signal. It is also thinking about the recordings themselves and deciding which ones are really suitable for use as a proxy for live music.Perhaps it would have made you feel better if I had simply stated at the beginning, "All of the following statements are IMO". I guess I didn't think that was necessary.
You will notice that I didn't say that ALL this or ALL that too often and most of my statements have some qualifications in them.
"b) presents subjective evaluation as 'fact'. ie 'horn negatives outweigh positives'"
Maybe this was your perception but I never stated it as a fact. It is clear to me that some people value the positives of horns more than they hate the negatives. See my discussion on the single cone driver speaker, I simply didn't feel like making the same comments again with regard to horns.
"For my part, I rarely if ever attend live events, own a pair of 'horn' speakers (although they're Unity designs, so differ from conventional horns) "
All of this is fine but I would not then use your advice then to build a system because you have no idea how close your system sounds to the real thing. If you like it that is great but one can't make any claims to its accuracy as a recording reproducer.
I get the impression from your comments that you are a little bit unhappy that I said for me that most horn speakers minuses outweigh their plusses because you as a horn owner took that personally.
"c) suggests that any audiophile that attends live events but comes up with a different take is 'not good at translating'. ie 'wrong'"
Sorry but since you don't go to live events you can't really comment on the validity of someones choice compared to live music. It is relatively easy to hear how successful some was in translating what they hear live to what they are getting at home. Many are not even close, which suggests they don't translate the experience well, don't have the resources or space to do so, or don't care enough to do so.
Living for 4 years with a professional violinist (who played only top notch old instruments) taught me a lot about what sounds right and what does not. Making my own recordings of her taught me even more. Try recording someone singing or playing an instrument in your room. Place the musician right between the speakers and place the microphones where your head would be. Now record and listen carefully. THen take the recording and play it back. Is it even close to what you just heard? If not then perhaps its best to start from scratch and ask for help. My system does a very credible job in this test. My other recordings also came through with a large dose of realism. It is cool when you have a system that can do that.
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- Re: on the other hand...... - morricab 05:05:55 01/24/07 (1)
- Re: on the other hand...... - dwk 13:06:35 01/27/07 (0)
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