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In Reply to: Of course...... posted by Commuteman on August 19, 2004 at 11:04:36:
"To suggest that RLC measurements are ALL that defines a cable's quality is also clearly wrong, since there is no established correlation between those measurements and the cable's ultimate purpose, even if you include the complexity of source and load interaction.Which means, IMO, that determining the relative quality of a group of cables based on RLC measurements alone is a pointless exercise, beyond the basic housekeeping measurements described above."
We agree to disagree. I should add that shielding can play a vital role but that's about it for audio band.
The Ever Evil Doctor Steel
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - Speaker Cable Measurements - Dan Banquer 12:36:28 08/02/04 (132)
- We're still at square zero.... - Commuteman 11:30:33 08/18/04 (90)
- Nail on the head dude! - dado4 21:17:58 08/19/04 (1)
- Re: Nail on the head dude! - jneutron 08:14:31 08/20/04 (0)
- Re: We're still at square zero.... - Dan Banquer 17:51:36 08/18/04 (87)
- Where do you think we are? - Commuteman 20:23:17 08/18/04 (86)
- Re: We're still at square zero.... - Dan Banquer 03:24:38 08/19/04 (85)
- Of course...... - Commuteman 11:04:36 08/19/04 (84)
- Hi Peter - jneutron 12:35:39 08/19/04 (82)
- Go back to my original post.... - Commuteman 15:15:39 08/19/04 (81)
- no need to... - jneutron 07:26:23 08/20/04 (80)
- Let's simplify this - Commuteman 11:42:08 08/20/04 (79)
- Re: Let's simplify this - Soundmind 12:00:09 08/22/04 (77)
- My comment was not just about speaker cables... - Commuteman 20:44:51 08/22/04 (46)
- Re: My comment was not just about speaker cables... - Soundmind 21:02:59 08/22/04 (45)
- Why is that? - Commuteman 21:52:35 08/22/04 (44)
- Re: Why is that? - Soundmind 05:22:18 08/23/04 (43)
- Re: Why is that? - Jon Risch 17:37:21 08/23/04 (4)
- Re: Why is that? - Soundmind 19:28:34 08/23/04 (3)
- Re: Why is that? - Jon Risch 19:58:09 08/23/04 (2)
- Re: Why is that? - john curl 20:55:44 08/23/04 (1)
- Re: Why is that? - Soundmind 04:30:10 08/24/04 (0)
- now we are getting to the bottom of this thread... - Commuteman 10:46:57 08/23/04 (37)
- Re: now we are getting to the bottom of this thread... - Soundmind 11:59:44 08/23/04 (36)
- A couple of problems with that - Commuteman 15:16:04 08/23/04 (35)
- Re: A couple of problems with that - Soundmind 16:29:46 08/23/04 (34)
- Some misunderstandings - Commuteman 17:34:52 08/23/04 (33)
- Re: Some misunderstandings - jneutron 10:49:23 08/24/04 (2)
- Now we're gettin' somewhere! :-) - Commuteman 14:52:33 08/25/04 (1)
- Re: Now we're gettin' somewhere! :-) - jneutron 06:01:30 08/26/04 (0)
- Re: Some misunderstandings - Soundmind 19:20:30 08/23/04 (29)
- The Gloves are off! - Jon Risch 20:07:42 08/23/04 (28)
- Re: The Gloves are off! - jneutron 06:00:04 08/24/04 (20)
- C'mon John... - Commuteman 08:21:27 08/24/04 (19)
- Hi peter - jneutron 09:09:44 08/24/04 (18)
- But he hit the nail on te head..... - Commuteman 09:27:59 08/24/04 (17)
- What nail? - jneutron 10:15:25 08/24/04 (16)
- Re: What nail? - Jon Risch 19:41:38 08/24/04 (10)
- Re: What nail? - Mudcat 11:34:38 10/28/04 (1)
- Re: What nail? - Mudcat 11:36:52 10/28/04 (0)
- more denigration there Jon?? do any synchronized swimming lately? - jneutron 06:34:46 08/25/04 (7)
- There was some content in JR's post. Gonna answer, or continue to sling mud? nt - Commuteman 13:05:40 08/25/04 (6)
- Lets review the content...and see what there is to answer.. - jneutron 13:37:31 08/25/04 (5)
- Wow, John... - Commuteman 14:14:34 08/25/04 (4)
- Stop with the between the lines stuff. - jneutron 06:52:48 08/26/04 (3)
- Sorry - wont chicken out again on you ;o) nt! - Granholm 06:09:43 08/27/04 (2)
- Well ok.. - Granholm 06:19:54 08/27/04 (1)
- Re: Well ok.. - jneutron 06:49:29 08/27/04 (0)
- OK - Commuteman 10:56:37 08/24/04 (4)
- Re: OK - Dan Banquer 11:58:37 08/24/04 (1)
- Great post....see we can discuss reasonably...... - Commuteman 17:28:44 08/24/04 (0)
- Re: OK - jneutron 11:53:44 08/24/04 (1)
- Re: OK - Dan Banquer 12:37:45 08/24/04 (0)
- Re: The Gloves are off! - Soundmind 04:53:26 08/24/04 (6)
- One last attempt. - Jon Risch 20:38:34 08/24/04 (1)
- Incorrect again, dude... - jneutron 06:58:11 08/25/04 (0)
- Hmmmm... where have you been? - Commuteman 09:12:29 08/24/04 (3)
- Hmmm - jneutron 10:19:40 08/24/04 (1)
- Hey, everybody has moments of weakness....;-) - Commuteman 11:32:30 08/24/04 (0)
- Re: Hmmmm... where have you been? - Soundmind 09:20:33 08/24/04 (0)
- Re: We're still at square zero.... - Dan Banquer 14:31:15 08/22/04 (29)
- Re: We're still at square zero.... - Soundmind 16:22:20 08/22/04 (28)
- Re: We're still at square zero.... - Dan Banquer 17:08:33 08/22/04 (27)
- Re: We're still at square zero.... - john curl 11:19:09 08/23/04 (23)
- Re: We're still at square zero.... - Dan Banquer 11:48:25 08/23/04 (22)
- Re: We're still at square zero.... - Soundmind 12:05:17 08/23/04 (21)
- Re: We're still at square zero.... - Dan Banquer 12:53:09 08/23/04 (20)
- And if you like the way it sounds, then it works...(nt) - Commuteman 15:17:07 08/23/04 (19)
- Re: And if you like the way it sounds, then it works...(nt) - Soundmind 16:34:50 08/23/04 (16)
- I guess we're speaking different languages - Commuteman 17:41:27 08/23/04 (15)
- Re: I guess we're speaking different languages - Soundmind 19:36:49 08/23/04 (5)
- Wait a second... - Commuteman 22:28:31 08/23/04 (0)
- Was that mechanical engineering? - Commuteman 22:19:46 08/23/04 (3)
- Re: Was that mechanical engineering? - Soundmind 04:58:39 08/24/04 (2)
- So we have reached the end point in different world views - Commuteman 08:28:28 08/24/04 (1)
- Re: So we have reached the end point in different world views - Soundmind 08:55:41 08/24/04 (0)
- Re: I guess we're speaking different languages - Dan Banquer 17:55:46 08/23/04 (8)
- exactly right. - Commuteman 22:22:31 08/23/04 (0)
- Re: I guess we're speaking different languages - Soundmind 19:43:55 08/23/04 (6)
- How do you prove that's the whole list? - Commuteman 08:30:20 08/24/04 (5)
- Re: How do you prove that's the whole list? - Soundmind 08:38:54 08/24/04 (4)
- You didn't answer my question (remember this is a TECHNICAL forum) - Commuteman 09:52:46 08/24/04 (3)
- Ummm, peter? - jneutron 07:59:24 08/25/04 (2)
- Quick summary: - Commuteman 13:23:29 08/25/04 (0)
- Re: Ummm, peter? - Soundmind 08:16:13 08/25/04 (0)
- Re: And if you like the way it sounds, then it works...(nt) - Dan Banquer 15:41:19 08/23/04 (1)
- It's whatever works... - Commuteman 17:45:57 08/23/04 (0)
- Re: We're still at square zero.... - Soundmind 17:45:45 08/22/04 (2)
- How do we get off square zero? - Commuteman 21:12:27 08/22/04 (1)
- Re: How do we get off square zero? - Soundmind 21:49:53 08/22/04 (0)
- Re: Let's simplify this - jneutron 12:03:54 08/20/04 (0)
- Re: Of course...... - Dan Banquer 11:54:39 08/19/04 (0)
- The usual BS, just dressed up a bit more - Jon Risch 21:38:41 08/12/04 (17)
- Re: The usual BS, just dressed up a bit more - Soundmind 09:36:33 08/22/04 (3)
- Re: The usual BS, just dressed up a bit more - Jon Risch 22:05:01 08/22/04 (2)
- Re: The usual BS, just dressed up a bit more - Soundmind 05:02:46 08/23/04 (1)
- Re: The usual BS, just dressed up a bit more - Jon Risch 10:25:07 08/23/04 (0)
- Cableoney - Richard BassNut Greene 09:37:53 08/13/04 (0)
- Re: The usual BS, just dressed up a bit more - Dan Banquer 03:20:04 08/13/04 (11)
- Dan..JR's garbage is just begging response, so here it is..... - jneutron 06:40:29 08/13/04 (10)
- John, do you REALLY believe..... - Commuteman 08:29:57 08/16/04 (1)
- Re: John, do you REALLY believe..... - jneutron 09:21:10 08/16/04 (0)
- Garbage science.... - Jon Risch 10:34:41 08/13/04 (6)
- Re: Garbage science.... - john curl 23:13:12 08/13/04 (1)
- Re: Garbage science.... - jneutron 06:52:17 08/16/04 (0)
- Re: Garbage guru - jneutron 10:54:43 08/13/04 (3)
- SOS - Jon Risch 11:23:33 08/14/04 (2)
- You fooled me..I was hoping for some actual technical stuff from you.. - jneutron 06:32:41 08/16/04 (0)
- Re: Dan..JR's garbage is just begging response, so here it is..... - Steve Eddy 09:15:44 08/13/04 (0)
- Axiom made a good observation - RGA 09:02:05 08/11/04 (6)
- Re: Axiom made a good observation - Dan Banquer 09:48:06 08/11/04 (5)
- Somewhat difficult to implement though! - Granholm 12:33:27 08/11/04 (4)
- Re: Somewhat difficult to implement though! - Dan Banquer 13:36:20 08/11/04 (3)
- Expensive gold wires in $3999 interconnect - Atexanathome 11:53:42 08/12/04 (2)
- So what. - Jon Risch 21:07:39 08/12/04 (1)
- heh heh heh...good call, JR.. - jneutron 07:08:24 08/13/04 (0)
- Re: Speaker Cable Measurements - Tom Dawson 08:41:07 08/09/04 (8)
- Re: Speaker Cable Measurements - jneutron 10:51:05 08/09/04 (7)
- Re: Speaker Cable Measurements - Tom Dawson 14:37:43 08/09/04 (6)
- Good post, Dan ... - andyr 04:31:29 08/09/04 (3)
- Re: Good post, Dan ... - Dan Banquer 06:14:11 08/09/04 (2)
- Re: Good post, Dan ... - andyr 06:19:21 08/09/04 (1)
- Re: Good post, Dan ... - Dan Banquer 06:41:08 08/09/04 (0)
- Re: Speaker Cable Measurements - Dave Kingsland 15:24:51 08/02/04 (1)
- Re: Speaker Cable Measurements - jneutron 07:22:16 08/03/04 (0)
- Re: Speaker Cable Measurements - Zene 13:30:26 08/02/04 (0)
Follow Ups
- Re: Of course...... - Dan Banquer 11:54:39 08/19/04 (0)
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