In Reply to: Speaker Cable Measurements posted by Dan Banquer on August 2, 2004 at 12:36:28:
AH and their cable articles are full of naysayer bull, with the bottom line being they have not conducted ANY listening to any of these cables, not of any kind, such as DBT, A/B. or sighted listening. They even discuss the cable performance, as if they know how it will sound, without listenng to the cables!!!!!The entire measurement and reporting process is assuming from the start, that the only metrics that matter TO WHAT WE HEAR are primary LCR measures. This is assumed and taken as a fact, without any kind of scientific approach or reasoning used to establish this prior assumption. Since there is no actual evidence in existence for this kind of assumption, the tack they take is strictly based on personal opinions, without the validation of any scientific evidence, or true expert support.
Given this mind set and the huge amount of spin used to validate this POV, including mis-interpetation of the data, incorrect assumptions, technically incorrect statements, it is no wonder that they come to the pre-ordained conclusions that they do. It is as predictable as the sun rising in the usual place.
Is it science? No. Is it physics? Not completely. Is it a highly polarized opinion being touted as fact? Yes. Is it a deliberate agenda and crusade against high performance A/V cables? In effect, that is what it has become.
Is it worth the electrinic ink it consists of? Not at all, in fact, it serves the purpose of confusing and misinforming people about audio cables, and thus, is a disservice to the audio community as well as the acedemic and sciencitifc community.
Shame on you Dan for supporting this psuedo-science, and for continually calling attention to the utterly worthless and biased AH cable articles.
BTW, I see they are still touting Tributaries as a paragon of cable virtue, just like in the earlier articles, where they swallowed Tributaries marketing BS hook, line, and sinker, and placed it nearly verbatim into the originally posted article on video cables, "Component Video Cables - The Definitive Guide".
Of course, since then, most of the verbatim BS has been removed, after I called them on it (and was never given credit for specifically noting the inconsistencies and sheer BS that was touted as fact) and they quietly edited and altered the article. The most fascinating thing was the widespread kudo's from cable naysayers FOR THE ORGINAL ERROR-LADEN ARTICLE.This continued irrational and unscientific support and mention of Tributaries seems very suspicious to me, far too cozy and positive for a web site proclaiming they are "Pursuing the Truth in Audio and Video", and presenting psuedo-science cable articles as if they were scientific fact. Perhaps that is, except for their advertisers and friends?
Jon Risch
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Follow Ups
- The usual BS, just dressed up a bit more - Jon Risch 21:38:41 08/12/04 (17)
- Re: The usual BS, just dressed up a bit more - Soundmind 09:36:33 08/22/04 (3)
- Re: The usual BS, just dressed up a bit more - Jon Risch 22:05:01 08/22/04 (2)
- Re: The usual BS, just dressed up a bit more - Soundmind 05:02:46 08/23/04 (1)
- Re: The usual BS, just dressed up a bit more - Jon Risch 10:25:07 08/23/04 (0)
- Cableoney - Richard BassNut Greene 09:37:53 08/13/04 (0)
- Re: The usual BS, just dressed up a bit more - Dan Banquer 03:20:04 08/13/04 (11)
- Dan..JR's garbage is just begging response, so here it is..... - jneutron 06:40:29 08/13/04 (10)
- John, do you REALLY believe..... - Commuteman 08:29:57 08/16/04 (1)
- Re: John, do you REALLY believe..... - jneutron 09:21:10 08/16/04 (0)
- Garbage science.... - Jon Risch 10:34:41 08/13/04 (6)
- Re: Garbage science.... - john curl 23:13:12 08/13/04 (1)
- Re: Garbage science.... - jneutron 06:52:17 08/16/04 (0)
- Re: Garbage guru - jneutron 10:54:43 08/13/04 (3)
- SOS - Jon Risch 11:23:33 08/14/04 (2)
- You fooled me..I was hoping for some actual technical stuff from you.. - jneutron 06:32:41 08/16/04 (0)
- Re: Dan..JR's garbage is just begging response, so here it is..... - Steve Eddy 09:15:44 08/13/04 (0)