In Reply to: Re: Hmmm posted by Tom Dawson on August 10, 2004 at 07:23:11:
Ah, seems your wires are below any ability of your tester to discern...I had the same problem with my 10 nH/foot stuff.Unless you can put a hundred feet of that stuff together, we're not gonna get an accurate number.
In theory, the inductance should be 1/4 of what 1 pair measures, but the braiding pattern and mutual coupling probably toss that relation out the window..
I've 500 feet of #12 wire in 2 colors...after I spiral together my speaker runs, a 150 footer and a 100 footer, I'll use some of the remaining 250 feet for braiding tests..and L/C comparisons...given enough data points, I'll be able to derive a nomograph for # of braid vs L/C measurements for this specific insulation/guage combo.
Thanks for the effort Tom.
Cheers, John
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - Speaker Cable Measurements - Dan Banquer 12:36:28 08/02/04 (132)
- We're still at square zero.... - Commuteman 11:30:33 08/18/04 (90)
- Nail on the head dude! - dado4 21:17:58 08/19/04 (1)
- Re: Nail on the head dude! - jneutron 08:14:31 08/20/04 (0)
- Re: We're still at square zero.... - Dan Banquer 17:51:36 08/18/04 (87)
- Where do you think we are? - Commuteman 20:23:17 08/18/04 (86)
- Re: We're still at square zero.... - Dan Banquer 03:24:38 08/19/04 (85)
- Of course...... - Commuteman 11:04:36 08/19/04 (84)
- Hi Peter - jneutron 12:35:39 08/19/04 (82)
- Go back to my original post.... - Commuteman 15:15:39 08/19/04 (81)
- no need to... - jneutron 07:26:23 08/20/04 (80)
- Let's simplify this - Commuteman 11:42:08 08/20/04 (79)
- Re: Let's simplify this - Soundmind 12:00:09 08/22/04 (77)
- My comment was not just about speaker cables... - Commuteman 20:44:51 08/22/04 (46)
- Re: My comment was not just about speaker cables... - Soundmind 21:02:59 08/22/04 (45)
- Why is that? - Commuteman 21:52:35 08/22/04 (44)
- Re: Why is that? - Soundmind 05:22:18 08/23/04 (43)
- Re: Why is that? - Jon Risch 17:37:21 08/23/04 (4)
- Re: Why is that? - Soundmind 19:28:34 08/23/04 (3)
- Re: Why is that? - Jon Risch 19:58:09 08/23/04 (2)
- Re: Why is that? - john curl 20:55:44 08/23/04 (1)
- Re: Why is that? - Soundmind 04:30:10 08/24/04 (0)
- now we are getting to the bottom of this thread... - Commuteman 10:46:57 08/23/04 (37)
- Re: now we are getting to the bottom of this thread... - Soundmind 11:59:44 08/23/04 (36)
- A couple of problems with that - Commuteman 15:16:04 08/23/04 (35)
- Re: A couple of problems with that - Soundmind 16:29:46 08/23/04 (34)
- Some misunderstandings - Commuteman 17:34:52 08/23/04 (33)
- Re: Some misunderstandings - jneutron 10:49:23 08/24/04 (2)
- Now we're gettin' somewhere! :-) - Commuteman 14:52:33 08/25/04 (1)
- Re: Now we're gettin' somewhere! :-) - jneutron 06:01:30 08/26/04 (0)
- Re: Some misunderstandings - Soundmind 19:20:30 08/23/04 (29)
- The Gloves are off! - Jon Risch 20:07:42 08/23/04 (28)
- Re: The Gloves are off! - jneutron 06:00:04 08/24/04 (20)
- C'mon John... - Commuteman 08:21:27 08/24/04 (19)
- Hi peter - jneutron 09:09:44 08/24/04 (18)
- But he hit the nail on te head..... - Commuteman 09:27:59 08/24/04 (17)
- What nail? - jneutron 10:15:25 08/24/04 (16)
- Re: What nail? - Jon Risch 19:41:38 08/24/04 (10)
- Re: What nail? - Mudcat 11:34:38 10/28/04 (1)
- Re: What nail? - Mudcat 11:36:52 10/28/04 (0)
- more denigration there Jon?? do any synchronized swimming lately? - jneutron 06:34:46 08/25/04 (7)
- There was some content in JR's post. Gonna answer, or continue to sling mud? nt - Commuteman 13:05:40 08/25/04 (6)
- Lets review the content...and see what there is to answer.. - jneutron 13:37:31 08/25/04 (5)
- Wow, John... - Commuteman 14:14:34 08/25/04 (4)
- Stop with the between the lines stuff. - jneutron 06:52:48 08/26/04 (3)
- Sorry - wont chicken out again on you ;o) nt! - Granholm 06:09:43 08/27/04 (2)
- Well ok.. - Granholm 06:19:54 08/27/04 (1)
- Re: Well ok.. - jneutron 06:49:29 08/27/04 (0)
- OK - Commuteman 10:56:37 08/24/04 (4)
- Re: OK - Dan Banquer 11:58:37 08/24/04 (1)
- Great post....see we can discuss reasonably...... - Commuteman 17:28:44 08/24/04 (0)
- Re: OK - jneutron 11:53:44 08/24/04 (1)
- Re: OK - Dan Banquer 12:37:45 08/24/04 (0)
- Re: The Gloves are off! - Soundmind 04:53:26 08/24/04 (6)
- One last attempt. - Jon Risch 20:38:34 08/24/04 (1)
- Incorrect again, dude... - jneutron 06:58:11 08/25/04 (0)
- Hmmmm... where have you been? - Commuteman 09:12:29 08/24/04 (3)
- Hmmm - jneutron 10:19:40 08/24/04 (1)
- Hey, everybody has moments of weakness....;-) - Commuteman 11:32:30 08/24/04 (0)
- Re: Hmmmm... where have you been? - Soundmind 09:20:33 08/24/04 (0)
- Re: We're still at square zero.... - Dan Banquer 14:31:15 08/22/04 (29)
- Re: We're still at square zero.... - Soundmind 16:22:20 08/22/04 (28)
- Re: We're still at square zero.... - Dan Banquer 17:08:33 08/22/04 (27)
- Re: We're still at square zero.... - john curl 11:19:09 08/23/04 (23)
- Re: We're still at square zero.... - Dan Banquer 11:48:25 08/23/04 (22)
- Re: We're still at square zero.... - Soundmind 12:05:17 08/23/04 (21)
- Re: We're still at square zero.... - Dan Banquer 12:53:09 08/23/04 (20)
- And if you like the way it sounds, then it works...(nt) - Commuteman 15:17:07 08/23/04 (19)
- Re: And if you like the way it sounds, then it works...(nt) - Soundmind 16:34:50 08/23/04 (16)
- I guess we're speaking different languages - Commuteman 17:41:27 08/23/04 (15)
- Re: I guess we're speaking different languages - Soundmind 19:36:49 08/23/04 (5)
- Wait a second... - Commuteman 22:28:31 08/23/04 (0)
- Was that mechanical engineering? - Commuteman 22:19:46 08/23/04 (3)
- Re: Was that mechanical engineering? - Soundmind 04:58:39 08/24/04 (2)
- So we have reached the end point in different world views - Commuteman 08:28:28 08/24/04 (1)
- Re: So we have reached the end point in different world views - Soundmind 08:55:41 08/24/04 (0)
- Re: I guess we're speaking different languages - Dan Banquer 17:55:46 08/23/04 (8)
- exactly right. - Commuteman 22:22:31 08/23/04 (0)
- Re: I guess we're speaking different languages - Soundmind 19:43:55 08/23/04 (6)
- How do you prove that's the whole list? - Commuteman 08:30:20 08/24/04 (5)
- Re: How do you prove that's the whole list? - Soundmind 08:38:54 08/24/04 (4)
- You didn't answer my question (remember this is a TECHNICAL forum) - Commuteman 09:52:46 08/24/04 (3)
- Ummm, peter? - jneutron 07:59:24 08/25/04 (2)
- Quick summary: - Commuteman 13:23:29 08/25/04 (0)
- Re: Ummm, peter? - Soundmind 08:16:13 08/25/04 (0)
- Re: And if you like the way it sounds, then it works...(nt) - Dan Banquer 15:41:19 08/23/04 (1)
- It's whatever works... - Commuteman 17:45:57 08/23/04 (0)
- Re: We're still at square zero.... - Soundmind 17:45:45 08/22/04 (2)
- How do we get off square zero? - Commuteman 21:12:27 08/22/04 (1)
- Re: How do we get off square zero? - Soundmind 21:49:53 08/22/04 (0)
- Re: Let's simplify this - jneutron 12:03:54 08/20/04 (0)
- Re: Of course...... - Dan Banquer 11:54:39 08/19/04 (0)
- The usual BS, just dressed up a bit more - Jon Risch 21:38:41 08/12/04 (17)
- Re: The usual BS, just dressed up a bit more - Soundmind 09:36:33 08/22/04 (3)
- Re: The usual BS, just dressed up a bit more - Jon Risch 22:05:01 08/22/04 (2)
- Re: The usual BS, just dressed up a bit more - Soundmind 05:02:46 08/23/04 (1)
- Re: The usual BS, just dressed up a bit more - Jon Risch 10:25:07 08/23/04 (0)
- Cableoney - Richard BassNut Greene 09:37:53 08/13/04 (0)
- Re: The usual BS, just dressed up a bit more - Dan Banquer 03:20:04 08/13/04 (11)
- Dan..JR's garbage is just begging response, so here it is..... - jneutron 06:40:29 08/13/04 (10)
- John, do you REALLY believe..... - Commuteman 08:29:57 08/16/04 (1)
- Re: John, do you REALLY believe..... - jneutron 09:21:10 08/16/04 (0)
- Garbage science.... - Jon Risch 10:34:41 08/13/04 (6)
- Re: Garbage science.... - john curl 23:13:12 08/13/04 (1)
- Re: Garbage science.... - jneutron 06:52:17 08/16/04 (0)
- Re: Garbage guru - jneutron 10:54:43 08/13/04 (3)
- SOS - Jon Risch 11:23:33 08/14/04 (2)
- You fooled me..I was hoping for some actual technical stuff from you.. - jneutron 06:32:41 08/16/04 (0)
- Re: Dan..JR's garbage is just begging response, so here it is..... - Steve Eddy 09:15:44 08/13/04 (0)
- Axiom made a good observation - RGA 09:02:05 08/11/04 (6)
- Re: Axiom made a good observation - Dan Banquer 09:48:06 08/11/04 (5)
- Somewhat difficult to implement though! - Granholm 12:33:27 08/11/04 (4)
- Re: Somewhat difficult to implement though! - Dan Banquer 13:36:20 08/11/04 (3)
- Expensive gold wires in $3999 interconnect - Atexanathome 11:53:42 08/12/04 (2)
- So what. - Jon Risch 21:07:39 08/12/04 (1)
- heh heh heh...good call, JR.. - jneutron 07:08:24 08/13/04 (0)
- Re: Speaker Cable Measurements - Tom Dawson 08:41:07 08/09/04 (8)
- Re: Speaker Cable Measurements - jneutron 10:51:05 08/09/04 (7)
- Re: Speaker Cable Measurements - Tom Dawson 14:37:43 08/09/04 (6)
- Good post, Dan ... - andyr 04:31:29 08/09/04 (3)
- Re: Good post, Dan ... - Dan Banquer 06:14:11 08/09/04 (2)
- Re: Good post, Dan ... - andyr 06:19:21 08/09/04 (1)
- Re: Good post, Dan ... - Dan Banquer 06:41:08 08/09/04 (0)
- Re: Speaker Cable Measurements - Dave Kingsland 15:24:51 08/02/04 (1)
- Re: Speaker Cable Measurements - jneutron 07:22:16 08/03/04 (0)
- Re: Speaker Cable Measurements - Zene 13:30:26 08/02/04 (0)
Follow Ups
- Re: Hmmm - jneutron 07:58:40 08/10/04 (1)
- Re: Hmmm - Tom Dawson 08:22:43 08/10/04 (0)