In Reply to: Okay SEJ, so educate me. posted by Jim Austin on October 22, 2005 at 04:11:07:
Start with Lipshitz and Vanderkooy; their early work on level matching and frequency response was a first good indication of the sensitivity of blind testing. It's interesting that trained listeners could distinguish amazingly small level and EQ changes.Unless by "successful" you mean "having results in accord with my own wishes and those of the magazine that pays me." If we exclude that definition, then Stereophile has actually run some successful tests, sensitive enough to make the statistical handling mistakes quite evident. In the one particular test I have in mind, I compliment Stereophile on its willingness to publish Herman Burstein's takedown of their methodology and analysis.
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- Re: Okay SEJ, so educate me. - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 05:34:35 10/22/05 (59)
- Re: Okay SEJ, so educate me. - john curl 10:12:14 10/23/05 (39)
- Re: John, that's the problem - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 21:28:30 10/23/05 (38)
- Re: John, that's the problem - john curl 00:04:52 10/24/05 (37)
- Re: John, that's the problem - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 05:31:56 10/24/05 (36)
- Re: John, that's the problem - john curl 10:00:44 10/24/05 (31)
- Re: John, that's the problem - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 10:55:26 10/24/05 (30)
- Re: John, that's the problem - john curl 11:21:18 10/24/05 (29)
- Re: What is reality? - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 12:33:59 10/24/05 (28)
- Re: What is reality? - john curl 13:10:02 10/24/05 (27)
- Re: What is reality? - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 18:42:06 10/24/05 (26)
- Re: What is reality? - Jon Risch 21:27:07 10/24/05 (24)
- What is nonsense... - Silver Eared John 19:46:46 10/26/05 (20)
- "Extraordinary claims... - mkuller 10:42:18 10/27/05 (18)
- Oh, look at that. - Silver Eared John 10:29:49 10/28/05 (1)
- No, you aren't Pinkerton... - mkuller 11:47:32 10/28/05 (0)
- Re: "Extraordinary claims... - john curl 11:01:34 10/27/05 (15)
- "Only their version" - Silver Eared John 10:32:20 10/28/05 (14)
- Re: "Only their version" - john curl 13:03:40 10/28/05 (13)
- Ding, ding, ding... - mkuller 14:26:32 10/28/05 (0)
- What's with this "jj" stuff, anyhow. - Silver Eared John 13:40:15 10/28/05 (11)
- Re: What's with this "jj" stuff, anyhow. - john curl 17:36:42 10/28/05 (10)
- Now who are you addressing? Me or this JJ person? - Silver Eared John 19:21:10 10/28/05 (9)
- Re: Now who are you addressing? Me or this JJ person? - john curl 21:39:48 10/28/05 (8)
- Respect? taking stuff away is respect? - Silver Eared John 22:27:20 10/28/05 (7)
- Lies, misrepresentations or forgetfullness... - mkuller 16:23:11 10/29/05 (6)
- Re: Lies, misrepresentations or forgetfullness... - john curl 18:38:01 10/29/05 (5)
- If he says... - mkuller 10:53:52 10/30/05 (4)
- Re: If he says... - john curl 11:44:20 10/30/05 (3)
- Y'all got a strange standard, there, Mr. Curl - Silver Eared John 11:01:19 10/31/05 (2)
- Pot calling the kettle.... - mkuller 14:31:42 10/31/05 (1)
- Now, y'all aren't very honest, are y'all? - Silver Eared John 17:04:58 10/31/05 (0)
- Re: What is nonsense... - john curl 21:37:08 10/26/05 (0)
- Re: What is reality? - john curl 11:25:41 10/25/05 (2)
- Have you heard the original version of "Truckin'"? :-) - andy_c 09:22:31 10/27/05 (1)
- Re: Have you heard the original version of "Truckin'"? :-) - john curl 09:39:31 10/27/05 (0)
- Re: What is reality? - john curl 19:19:06 10/24/05 (0)
- Re: John, that's the problem - Dan Banquer 09:52:38 10/24/05 (3)
- Re: Noise floors - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 10:52:23 10/24/05 (2)
- Re: Noise floors - Dan Banquer 10:58:01 10/24/05 (1)
- Re: Noise floors - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 12:32:56 10/24/05 (0)
- Isn't there a contradiction between? - Jim Austin 07:42:48 10/22/05 (18)
- Nope - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 08:43:07 10/22/05 (17)
- Re: Nope - Jim Austin 09:15:41 10/22/05 (16)
- Re: Yep - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 09:34:14 10/22/05 (15)
- Sounds like... - Jim Austin 12:10:35 10/23/05 (3)
- Another method for keeping tasters honest... - Mark Kelly 19:50:03 10/24/05 (0)
- Is the sense of taste more acute than the sense of hearing? - Dave Pogue 05:35:53 10/24/05 (0)
- Re: Sounds like... - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 21:31:29 10/23/05 (0)
- Now hold on there. - Silver Eared John 12:14:20 10/22/05 (8)
- Did someone say Zin? - mkuller 11:39:21 10/23/05 (4)
- I've liked the "Rodney Strong Twisted Vines" in the past - Silver Eared John 16:54:52 10/24/05 (0)
- Re: Dry Creek - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 21:32:19 10/23/05 (2)
- I have a few late-70s Zins that still hold up. Amazing! - clarkjohnsen 09:34:18 10/24/05 (1)
- Re: I have a few late-70s Zins that still hold up. Amazing! - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 13:04:45 10/24/05 (0)
- Re: No disagreement - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 16:11:13 10/22/05 (2)
- Hmm, anything I can still buy realistically that you like? - Silver Eared John 18:15:23 10/22/05 (1)
- Re: Hmm, anything I can still buy realistically that you like? - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 18:25:26 10/22/05 (0)
- Hey W.C.... - mkuller 10:26:29 10/22/05 (1)
- Re: Hey W.C.... - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 10:32:59 10/22/05 (0)