Identifying something as music by its subject matter is a slippery slope.

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Topic - A question for the experts - Amphissa 12:20:35 10/25/06 (69)

Thanks everyone - Amphissa 07:08:17 10/28/06 (1)

A couple more. . . - Chris from Lafayette 10:37:58 10/29/06 (0)

Lyricism? - Ben 10:15:03 10/27/06 (0)

Re: A question for the experts - jazztrumpet 21:42:25 10/26/06 (6)

Re: Ives "...destroying the meaning in music." - Abel McCain 15:06:33 10/28/06 (4)

Clarification. - jazztrumpet 18:42:26 10/28/06 (3)

Re: Clarification. - Abel McCain 23:06:35 10/28/06 (2)

yes, but... - jazztrumpet 00:38:01 10/29/06 (1)

Some of Ives' songs can't be sung... - Abel McCain 08:47:04 10/29/06 (0)

Re: A question for the experts - Brian Cheney 16:46:40 10/27/06 (0)

Pedagogic exercises of Carl Orff- the "Schulwerk" - Bambi B 10:35:53 10/26/06 (5)

DG put out a 2 volume LP set of Orff's "Schulwerk" - gd 20:53:20 10/27/06 (0)

Re: Pedagogic exercises of Carl Orff- the "Schulwerk" - Amphissa 12:33:11 10/26/06 (2)

"The idea of prosody" (which I proposed earlier) appears in speech rhythms as well as music. nt - clarkjohnsen 14:09:17 10/26/06 (0)

Dowland, Schubert, Orff, Bartok, Coltrane, and Harpo ! - Bambi B 13:53:08 10/26/06 (0)

Re: Pedagogic exercises of Carl Orff- the "Schulwerk" - Soundmind 11:30:10 10/26/06 (0)

but the phrasing of "which music?" - jdaniel 08:48:11 10/26/06 (2)

Re: but the phrasing of "which music?" - Amphissa 09:11:13 10/26/06 (1)

You asked right, but the topic has taken wing. nt - clarkjohnsen 09:42:49 10/26/06 (0)

Or, maybe Anthony Storr?? - Gregm 08:39:45 10/26/06 (0)

Chomsky & Schenker? Maybe you're thinking of Chomsky's concept of ... - Gregm 08:22:16 10/26/06 (3)

Re: Chomsky & Schenker? Maybe you're thinking of Chomsky's concept of ... - Soundmind 11:23:58 10/26/06 (2)

:)! It 's cognitive. BTW, didn't know Chomsky - Gregm 02:40:32 10/27/06 (1)

Re: :)! It 's cognitive. BTW, didn't know Chomsky - Soundmind 08:44:59 10/27/06 (0)

Here's the reverse: - kerr 06:45:58 10/26/06 (3)

"But you gotta know the territory!" Meredith Wilson penned the greatest speech-song known to man. - clarkjohnsen 08:43:15 10/26/06 (2)

Yep, that's a good 'un! - kerr 09:36:22 10/26/06 (1)

Curse you, kerr! nt - clarkjohnsen 09:41:13 10/26/06 (0)

Not answer, but - sser2 20:40:12 10/25/06 (0)

Ned Rorem - maconw 17:53:01 10/25/06 (0)

Breating - arturo7 15:12:30 10/25/06 (1)

Re: Breating - sser2 15:59:08 10/25/06 (0)

Dvorak and Bernstein would be good starting points - M. Lucky 15:01:45 10/25/06 (0)

OK, I'll take a stab at it...a WAG - Soundmind 14:04:38 10/25/06 (23)

Too big. - jazztrumpet 21:38:49 10/26/06 (1)

Re: Too big. - Soundmind 09:07:09 10/27/06 (0)

Are you saying that you believe that's true?... - SE 05:10:13 10/26/06 (20)

You might be surprised. - markrohr 07:00:40 10/26/06 (19)

The next challenge.... - SE 11:09:01 10/26/06 (15)

Actually, a much shorter way of saying this is - markrohr 12:15:11 10/26/06 (13)

Thanks! Another challenge!:-)... - SE 13:00:57 10/26/06 (12)

Yes! - markrohr 14:27:40 10/26/06 (11)

"No matter how improvised, you are not hearing random sounds."... - SE 14:42:08 10/26/06 (10)

Hey, we can all call it what we like. - markrohr 16:17:02 10/26/06 (8)

"...but end up being less satisfying than music." You can stop right there. nt - clarkjohnsen 09:23:29 10/27/06 (0)

Somewhat surprisingly, you're off my point?... - SE 03:56:56 10/27/06 (4)

"Are you saying you group bird song with cat hissing?" Yup. - markrohr 06:55:14 10/27/06 (3)

"It takes a certain level of intelligence to create music." Yes indeed. - clarkjohnsen 09:39:52 10/27/06 (0)

"I find this to be an angels-on-the-head-of-a-pin argument." That's a misfire! - clarkjohnsen 09:33:37 10/27/06 (1)

All fair points. I'll close (really!:-) with this... - SE 07:05:34 10/27/06 (0)

Identifying something as music by its subject matter is a slippery slope. - jdaniel 19:22:40 10/26/06 (1)

What you read...are you saying you agree with that view?... - SE 03:58:51 10/27/06 (0)

Oops. That's "CAN only be put forth as fact". n/t - SE 14:44:23 10/26/06 (0)

I think the difference is time . . . - markrohr 12:12:37 10/26/06 (0)

This is an interesting idea... - John N 07:25:02 10/26/06 (2)

Re: This is an interesting idea... - Amphissa 08:46:48 10/26/06 (1)

Re: This is an interesting idea... - Soundmind 11:21:46 10/26/06 (0)

I assume you already know about Janacek? (nt) - Chris from Lafayette 13:02:10 10/25/06 (11)

Good one! Wagner too was concerned with prosody (the word for what we're talking here). Also... - clarkjohnsen 08:40:09 10/26/06 (0)

Re: I assume you already know about Janacek? (nt) - Amphissa 13:13:43 10/25/06 (9)

Re: I assume you already know about Janacek? (nt) - Chris from Lafayette 13:33:59 10/25/06 (8)

Re: I assume you already know about Janacek? (nt) - tlyyra 15:08:45 10/25/06 (2)

Re: I assume you already know about Janacek? (nt) - Amphissa 19:55:17 10/25/06 (1)

Re: I assume you already know about Janacek? (nt) - tlyyra 08:17:01 10/26/06 (0)

Re: I assume you already know about Janacek? (nt) - Amphissa 13:48:26 10/25/06 (4)

John Tyrrell. . . - Chris from Lafayette 15:30:19 10/25/06 (3)

Re: John Tyrrell. . . - Amphissa 19:50:24 10/25/06 (2)

California. . . - Chris from Lafayette 16:28:44 10/26/06 (1)

Re: California. . . - Amphissa 07:26:08 10/27/06 (0)

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Identifying something as music by its subject matter is a slippery slope. - jdaniel 19:22:40 10/26/06 (1)

What you read...are you saying you agree with that view?... - SE 03:58:51 10/27/06 (0)

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