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Music Lane It's all about the music, dude! Sit down, relax and listen to some tunes. |
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Music Lane It's all about the music, dude! Sit down, relax and listen to some tunes. |
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In Reply to: Yes! posted by markrohr on October 26, 2006 at 14:27:40:
Great point, thanks. Now, you had me all the way until the end, when my "birdbrain" instincts kicked in? Why do WE (humans) think we "own the rights to music"? "That's wy bird song isn't music" cannot only be put forth as fact if the bird's aren't "consciously organizaing the sound", which we cannot know for sure. Actually, I think we do...birds have patterns that serve purpose. It is perhaps not "human music", but that's a whole 'nother can of worms (birds on the brain) in that "human music" is an ever-shifting form. Yesterday's "noise" is today's "music", but ask a bird and he'll say "human crap"!:-)What is apparent is that Modern Classical and Jazz compositions are taking more chances than ever with the use of non-traditional sounds and effects, and that the "vocal basis" of instrumental playing is opened up to question as a result. I'm thinking James Carter here, and his (artistic, musical IMO) "physical attacks on his horn" as being a good example. Can music ever be truly "spontaneous"? Can music come to be WITHOUT systematic human direction? Why not?
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Follow Ups
- "No matter how improvised, you are not hearing random sounds."... - SE 14:42:08 10/26/06 (10)
- Hey, we can all call it what we like. - markrohr 16:17:02 10/26/06 (8)
- "...but end up being less satisfying than music." You can stop right there. nt - clarkjohnsen 09:23:29 10/27/06 (0)
- Somewhat surprisingly, you're off my point?... - SE 03:56:56 10/27/06 (4)
- "Are you saying you group bird song with cat hissing?" Yup. - markrohr 06:55:14 10/27/06 (3)
- "It takes a certain level of intelligence to create music." Yes indeed. - clarkjohnsen 09:39:52 10/27/06 (0)
- "I find this to be an angels-on-the-head-of-a-pin argument." That's a misfire! - clarkjohnsen 09:33:37 10/27/06 (1)
- All fair points. I'll close (really!:-) with this... - SE 07:05:34 10/27/06 (0)
- Identifying something as music by its subject matter is a slippery slope. - jdaniel 19:22:40 10/26/06 (1)
- What you read...are you saying you agree with that view?... - SE 03:58:51 10/27/06 (0)
- Oops. That's "CAN only be put forth as fact". n/t - SE 14:44:23 10/26/06 (0)
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