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This pertains to classical music ....I remember -- well, sort of remember, it's more like a vague quasi-memory -- running across somewhere an idea proposed by some composers or musicologists that the phrasings of music should reflect speech patterns, the natural rhythms of language.
I'm curious about this idea. Who/where did the idea originate, who were proponents of the idea, what composers bought into it, etc?
Is there a name or label for this idea?
Could any of you fine folk provide me with a starting point for learning more? My efforts at searching on Google have failed. I either made up this idea (in which case I claim copyrights, patents, trademarks, scholarly priority and all the millions of dollars that flow from it) -- or I'm just too ignorant to figure out the correct terms to use for searching for information about this idea (a much more likely explanation).
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Topic - A question for the experts - Amphissa 12:20:35 10/25/06 (69)
- Thanks everyone - Amphissa 07:08:17 10/28/06 (1)
- A couple more. . . - Chris from Lafayette 10:37:58 10/29/06 (0)
- Lyricism? - Ben 10:15:03 10/27/06 (0)
- Re: A question for the experts - jazztrumpet 21:42:25 10/26/06 (6)
- Re: Ives "...destroying the meaning in music." - Abel McCain 15:06:33 10/28/06 (4)
- Clarification. - jazztrumpet 18:42:26 10/28/06 (3)
- Re: Clarification. - Abel McCain 23:06:35 10/28/06 (2)
- yes, but... - jazztrumpet 00:38:01 10/29/06 (1)
- Some of Ives' songs can't be sung... - Abel McCain 08:47:04 10/29/06 (0)
- Re: A question for the experts - Brian Cheney 16:46:40 10/27/06 (0)
- Pedagogic exercises of Carl Orff- the "Schulwerk" - Bambi B 10:35:53 10/26/06 (5)
- DG put out a 2 volume LP set of Orff's "Schulwerk" - gd 20:53:20 10/27/06 (0)
- Re: Pedagogic exercises of Carl Orff- the "Schulwerk" - Amphissa 12:33:11 10/26/06 (2)
- "The idea of prosody" (which I proposed earlier) appears in speech rhythms as well as music. nt - clarkjohnsen 14:09:17 10/26/06 (0)
- Dowland, Schubert, Orff, Bartok, Coltrane, and Harpo ! - Bambi B 13:53:08 10/26/06 (0)
- Re: Pedagogic exercises of Carl Orff- the "Schulwerk" - Soundmind 11:30:10 10/26/06 (0)
- but the phrasing of "which music?" - jdaniel 08:48:11 10/26/06 (2)
- Re: but the phrasing of "which music?" - Amphissa 09:11:13 10/26/06 (1)
- You asked right, but the topic has taken wing. nt - clarkjohnsen 09:42:49 10/26/06 (0)
- Or, maybe Anthony Storr?? - Gregm 08:39:45 10/26/06 (0)
- Chomsky & Schenker? Maybe you're thinking of Chomsky's concept of ... - Gregm 08:22:16 10/26/06 (3)
- Re: Chomsky & Schenker? Maybe you're thinking of Chomsky's concept of ... - Soundmind 11:23:58 10/26/06 (2)
- :)! It 's cognitive. BTW, didn't know Chomsky - Gregm 02:40:32 10/27/06 (1)
- Re: :)! It 's cognitive. BTW, didn't know Chomsky - Soundmind 08:44:59 10/27/06 (0)
- Here's the reverse: - kerr 06:45:58 10/26/06 (3)
- "But you gotta know the territory!" Meredith Wilson penned the greatest speech-song known to man. - clarkjohnsen 08:43:15 10/26/06 (2)
- Yep, that's a good 'un! - kerr 09:36:22 10/26/06 (1)
- Curse you, kerr! nt - clarkjohnsen 09:41:13 10/26/06 (0)
- Not answer, but - sser2 20:40:12 10/25/06 (0)
- Ned Rorem - maconw 17:53:01 10/25/06 (0)
- Breating - arturo7 15:12:30 10/25/06 (1)
- Re: Breating - sser2 15:59:08 10/25/06 (0)
- Dvorak and Bernstein would be good starting points - M. Lucky 15:01:45 10/25/06 (0)
- OK, I'll take a stab at it...a WAG - Soundmind 14:04:38 10/25/06 (23)
- Too big. - jazztrumpet 21:38:49 10/26/06 (1)
- Re: Too big. - Soundmind 09:07:09 10/27/06 (0)
- Are you saying that you believe that's true?... - SE 05:10:13 10/26/06 (20)
- You might be surprised. - markrohr 07:00:40 10/26/06 (19)
- The next challenge.... - SE 11:09:01 10/26/06 (15)
- Actually, a much shorter way of saying this is - markrohr 12:15:11 10/26/06 (13)
- Thanks! Another challenge!:-)... - SE 13:00:57 10/26/06 (12)
- Yes! - markrohr 14:27:40 10/26/06 (11)
- "No matter how improvised, you are not hearing random sounds."... - SE 14:42:08 10/26/06 (10)
- Hey, we can all call it what we like. - markrohr 16:17:02 10/26/06 (8)
- "...but end up being less satisfying than music." You can stop right there. nt - clarkjohnsen 09:23:29 10/27/06 (0)
- Somewhat surprisingly, you're off my point?... - SE 03:56:56 10/27/06 (4)
- "Are you saying you group bird song with cat hissing?" Yup. - markrohr 06:55:14 10/27/06 (3)
- "It takes a certain level of intelligence to create music." Yes indeed. - clarkjohnsen 09:39:52 10/27/06 (0)
- "I find this to be an angels-on-the-head-of-a-pin argument." That's a misfire! - clarkjohnsen 09:33:37 10/27/06 (1)
- All fair points. I'll close (really!:-) with this... - SE 07:05:34 10/27/06 (0)
- Identifying something as music by its subject matter is a slippery slope. - jdaniel 19:22:40 10/26/06 (1)
- What you read...are you saying you agree with that view?... - SE 03:58:51 10/27/06 (0)
- Oops. That's "CAN only be put forth as fact". n/t - SE 14:44:23 10/26/06 (0)
- I think the difference is time . . . - markrohr 12:12:37 10/26/06 (0)
- This is an interesting idea... - John N 07:25:02 10/26/06 (2)
- Re: This is an interesting idea... - Amphissa 08:46:48 10/26/06 (1)
- Re: This is an interesting idea... - Soundmind 11:21:46 10/26/06 (0)
- I assume you already know about Janacek? (nt) - Chris from Lafayette 13:02:10 10/25/06 (11)
- Good one! Wagner too was concerned with prosody (the word for what we're talking here). Also... - clarkjohnsen 08:40:09 10/26/06 (0)
- Re: I assume you already know about Janacek? (nt) - Amphissa 13:13:43 10/25/06 (9)
- Re: I assume you already know about Janacek? (nt) - Chris from Lafayette 13:33:59 10/25/06 (8)
- Re: I assume you already know about Janacek? (nt) - tlyyra 15:08:45 10/25/06 (2)
- Re: I assume you already know about Janacek? (nt) - Amphissa 19:55:17 10/25/06 (1)
- Re: I assume you already know about Janacek? (nt) - tlyyra 08:17:01 10/26/06 (0)
- Re: I assume you already know about Janacek? (nt) - Amphissa 13:48:26 10/25/06 (4)
- John Tyrrell. . . - Chris from Lafayette 15:30:19 10/25/06 (3)
- Re: John Tyrrell. . . - Amphissa 19:50:24 10/25/06 (2)
- California. . . - Chris from Lafayette 16:28:44 10/26/06 (1)
- Re: California. . . - Amphissa 07:26:08 10/27/06 (0)
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