In Reply to: Reversesd cables sound different can be explained. posted by cheap-Jack on August 28, 2006 at 12:28:53:
It's more than this, AND as you have said, you have to ground a shielded cable on BOTH SIDES, unless you have 2 wires under the shield to create a signal ground path. This leaves out all coax cables of the normal kind. Check it out yourself with an ohm meter. Of course , you are correct that with an EXTERNAL shield over a twisted pair, that you ONLY ground one side, normally.
We can hear cable direction with just connecting wires. No shield at all.
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- Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - Richard BassNut Greene 13:31:04 08/28/06 (70)
- Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - thetubeguy1954 06:19:51 08/29/06 (1)
- Re: the conclusion that wires of these lengths sound different will be a proven belief and fact! - KlausR. 06:43:50 08/29/06 (0)
- I'll bet you're the life of every party you attend! :) (nt) - kerr 17:33:50 08/28/06 (4)
- You're right! .... Especially when I dance with a lampshade on my head! - Richard BassNut Greene 07:29:33 08/29/06 (3)
- But not until after you measure the lampshade... - kerr 09:30:44 08/29/06 (2)
- I guess in your case, the wife acceptance factor was zero - Soundmind 12:24:24 08/29/06 (1)
- Well, double blind tests proved something - kerr 17:48:14 08/29/06 (0)
- Do you find the objective data fully characterizes all aspects of audio performance? (nt) - E-Stat 13:56:36 08/28/06 (45)
- Objective methodology used only for listeners to prove they can hear a difference -- then subjective opinions rule - Richard BassNut Greene 07:47:11 08/29/06 (44)
- Thanks - E-Stat 10:05:46 08/29/06 (43)
- "over a period of days, not seconds" - Tre' 13:57:44 08/30/06 (1)
- DBTs and SBTs usually last an hour or two ... but can last for days and weeks if you prefer - Richard BassNut Greene 08:54:18 08/31/06 (0)
- SPL matching - unclestu52 11:39:43 08/29/06 (40)
- No, that' s MY equipment - Soundmind 13:11:26 08/29/06 (1)
- My apologies, (NT) - unclestu52 13:39:41 08/29/06 (0)
- I think you are confusing RBNG with SM - E-Stat 12:40:26 08/29/06 (0)
- That Explains It! - thetubeguy1954 12:24:30 08/29/06 (36)
- Re: That Explains It! - john curl 15:07:11 08/29/06 (33)
- Along about that same time a certain audio authority declared that a particular Audio Technica cartridge... - clarkjohnsen 07:42:50 08/30/06 (0)
- Re: That Explains It! - Soundmind 07:08:30 08/30/06 (31)
- What It REALLY Explains! - thetubeguy1954 07:52:18 08/30/06 (30)
- Re: What It REALLY Explains! - Soundmind 08:12:51 08/30/06 (29)
- Re: What It REALLY Explains! - thetubeguy1954 10:39:39 08/30/06 (28)
- SM is the guy on top - E-Stat 11:19:49 08/30/06 (26)
- Then E-Stat you must be the monkey in the middle - Soundmind 11:34:33 08/30/06 (25)
- You're right! - E-Stat 12:23:23 08/30/06 (3)
- Re: You're right! - Soundmind 12:50:02 08/30/06 (2)
- Ironically, it sounds like - E-Stat 13:37:13 08/30/06 (1)
- Re: Ironically, it sounds like - Soundmind 14:10:32 08/30/06 (0)
- Re: Then E-Stat you must be the monkey in the middle - thetubeguy1954 12:09:30 08/30/06 (20)
- tubeguy, you can insult me all you like but it doesn't change the facts, the truth you refuese to believe - Soundmind 13:09:25 08/30/06 (19)
- Re: Wrong, Flat wrong. - theaudiohobby 23:41:09 09/01/06 (0)
- Soundmind It's YOU Who Refuses To Believe The Facts & The Truth -- NOT Me! - thetubeguy1954 08:11:01 08/31/06 (9)
- And a very angry old man as well. nt - clarkjohnsen 08:02:40 09/01/06 (0)
- Bear in mind that your antagonist is a proven liar. nt - clarkjohnsen 12:54:07 08/31/06 (1)
- You'll need two of these for stereo Clark - Soundmind 14:39:33 08/31/06 (0)
- tubeguy, you don't know what you are saying - Soundmind 09:52:54 08/31/06 (5)
- Soundmind YOU don't know what YOU'RE saying.... - thetubeguy1954 12:54:20 09/01/06 (1)
- Translation - E-Stat 19:18:47 09/05/06 (0)
- Re: tubeguy, you don't know what you are saying - john curl 22:44:23 08/31/06 (2)
- At least Click and Clack, aka the Maggliozzi brothers - E-Stat 11:20:27 09/01/06 (0)
- I'll put my sound system up against yours any day - Soundmind 03:39:05 09/01/06 (0)
- Yet... - E-Stat 13:57:11 08/30/06 (6)
- Re: Yet... - john curl 23:34:52 08/31/06 (5)
- And yet ..... - clifff 01:46:32 09/01/06 (4)
- Expectations go both ways... - E-Stat 08:23:20 09/01/06 (1)
- Re: Expectations go both ways... - john curl 08:42:19 09/01/06 (0)
- Re: And yet ..... - john curl 07:12:53 09/01/06 (1)
- I wasn't asking YOU anything. - clifff 07:43:51 09/01/06 (0)
- And here's the rub - kerr 13:41:50 08/30/06 (0)
- Re: What It REALLY Explains! - Soundmind 10:52:37 08/30/06 (1)
- I find myself far more in agreement with RBNG - E-Stat 15:05:30 08/29/06 (1)
- Re: I find myself far more in agreement with RBNG - john curl 15:13:38 08/29/06 (0)
- Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - john curl 13:35:02 08/28/06 (16)
- Believe ... but verify - Richard BassNut Greene 07:53:16 08/29/06 (0)
- Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - Steve Eddy 14:30:04 08/28/06 (14)
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- Re: Not the Buddhists - Steve Eddy 09:42:17 08/29/06 (0)
- Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - john curl 16:07:32 08/28/06 (11)
- Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - Steve Eddy 16:29:46 08/28/06 (10)
- Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - thetubeguy1954 06:32:36 08/29/06 (3)
- Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - Steve Eddy 09:39:48 08/29/06 (2)
- Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - thetubeguy1954 10:40:08 08/29/06 (1)
- Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - Steve Eddy 11:21:51 08/29/06 (0)
- Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - john curl 16:50:58 08/28/06 (5)
- Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - Steve Eddy 20:50:30 08/28/06 (4)
- Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - john curl 21:28:40 08/28/06 (3)
- Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - Steve Eddy 23:00:32 08/28/06 (2)
- Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - john curl 23:10:02 08/28/06 (1)
- Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - Steve Eddy 23:49:19 08/28/06 (0)
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- Re: If you honestly wanted to know,you could have read the Audioholics cable articles - thetubeguy1954 10:48:12 08/28/06 (18)
- Just to play the devil's advocate - unclestu52 20:20:18 08/30/06 (0)
- Re: define "benign" - mls-stl 12:12:39 08/29/06 (4)
- Please Tell Me Your Post Is Being Sarcastic - thetubeguy1954 11:01:36 08/30/06 (3)
- Re: Nope, sorry - mls-stl 13:16:24 08/30/06 (2)
- OK But.... - thetubeguy1954 09:17:55 08/31/06 (1)
- Re: Res Ipsa Loquitur - mls-stl 11:26:24 08/31/06 (0)
- Re: If you honestly wanted to know,you could have read the Audioholics cable articles - Jon Risch 16:54:28 08/28/06 (11)
- Re: If you honestly wanted to know,you could have read the Audioholics cable articles - Soundmind 07:32:18 08/29/06 (0)
- Re: If you honestly wanted to know,you could have read the Audioholics cable articles - thetubeguy1954 06:53:28 08/29/06 (9)
- Very Complicated Situation - Jon Risch 21:09:20 08/29/06 (8)
- Simple Situation, your bullshit has putrified to an unbearable stench - Soundmind 07:00:52 08/30/06 (7)
- Typical - Jon Risch 16:42:39 08/30/06 (2)
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- I am not impressed or intimidaded by self-appointed gods. - robert young 05:24:25 08/31/06 (0)
- Re: Simple Situation, your bullshit has putrified to an unbearable stench - john curl 11:10:24 08/30/06 (3)
- Thank you for your detailed technical rebuttal - Soundmind 11:42:59 08/30/06 (2)
- Re: Thank you for your detailed technical rebuttal - john curl 12:09:16 08/30/06 (1)
- Re: Thank you for your detailed technical rebuttal - Soundmind 12:38:38 08/30/06 (0)
- Re: What Is The Average Objectivists Beliefs On Wires? - May Belt 10:55:33 08/27/06 (88)
- Reversesd cables sound different can be explained. - cheap-Jack 12:28:53 08/28/06 (26)
- The effect is most audible between 100,000,000 hz and 400,000,000 hz where it's unmistakable unless you're tone deaf nt - Soundmind 15:02:53 08/28/06 (16)
- Substantiate your claim please. - cheap-Jack 16:02:55 08/28/06 (15)
- Re: Substantiate your claim please. - Soundmind 16:11:50 08/28/06 (14)
- Fine example of simplistic reasoning - E-Stat 18:31:29 08/28/06 (13)
- Re: Fine example of simplistic reasoning - Michael Y 03:16:08 08/30/06 (6)
- Tune an AM radio off station near a high RF source like a CD player - E-Stat 05:48:25 08/30/06 (5)
- Re: Tune an AM radio off station near a high RF source like a CD player - Dan Banquer 06:33:37 08/30/06 (4)
- Evidently, Dan - E-Stat 06:59:13 08/30/06 (3)
- They're not interested. - Dan Banquer 07:58:09 08/30/06 (2)
- What's the FCC doing? - Atexanathome 15:28:32 08/30/06 (1)
- Re: What's the FCC doing? - Dan Banquer 17:06:09 08/30/06 (0)
- Interesting point - unclestu52 20:37:16 08/28/06 (0)
- Re: Fine example of simplistic reasoning - Soundmind 18:37:16 08/28/06 (4)
- Gee, has Johnny Neutron corrected your speculative theory (very gently) too much recently? - E-Stat 18:54:38 08/28/06 (3)
- sheesh..go on vaca for 10 days, and they forget my name.. - jneutron 07:34:37 09/05/06 (1)
- In repentance - E-Stat 08:21:51 09/06/06 (0)
- Re: Gee, has Johnny Neutron corrected your speculative theory (very gently) too much recently? - Soundmind 03:13:26 08/29/06 (0)
- Re: Reversesd cables sound different can be explained. - john curl 13:53:08 08/28/06 (8)
- Please don't confuse the issue. (long) - cheap-Jack 07:48:43 08/29/06 (7)
- Re: Please don't confuse the issue. (long) - john curl 23:50:41 08/29/06 (6)
- It should not be coaxial which is non-directional. (nt) - cheap-Jack 06:59:33 08/30/06 (5)
- Re: It should not be coaxial which is non-directional. (nt) - john curl 11:33:09 08/30/06 (4)
- Good question. - cheap-Jack 12:45:02 08/30/06 (3)
- Re: Good question. - john curl 13:19:36 08/30/06 (2)
- Oooops, it means no logic. (nt) - cheap-Jack 13:45:56 08/30/06 (0)
- Re: Good question. - Soundmind 13:33:35 08/30/06 (0)
- Good one, May! (Suggest you bother no further to reply to sarcastic male harridans.) nt - clarkjohnsen 09:14:52 08/28/06 (29)
- Re: Good one, May! (Suggest you bother no further to reply to sarcastic male harridans.) nt - May Belt 09:03:45 08/29/06 (28)
- "The fact that it has happened has to be dealt with." Or, not. Look at the magazines: - clarkjohnsen 08:00:29 08/30/06 (3)
- Re: "The fact that it has happened has to be dealt with." Or, not. Look at the magazines: - Soundmind 08:54:31 08/30/06 (2)
- The lies continue unabated; it becomes my lot to make sure the offending posts don't simply disappear. - clarkjohnsen 09:10:56 08/30/06 (1)
- And you've succeeded. You've certainly been active putting them up and you never delete them. - Soundmind 09:16:14 08/30/06 (0)
- Save the snake oil for the Indians - Soundmind 12:21:54 08/29/06 (19)
- A cable is "an attenuator", my friend. (nt) - cheap-Jack 12:34:49 08/29/06 (18)
- Not deliberately - Soundmind 12:56:20 08/29/06 (17)
- Enough is enough. Quit your soap shows please. (nt) - cheap-Jack 06:51:10 08/30/06 (4)
- What's your problem, don't confuse us with the facts, our minds are made up? I get it. - Soundmind 08:17:02 08/30/06 (3)
- How "actually much worse" ??? - cheap-Jack 13:28:54 08/30/06 (2)
- Cheap-Jack, Consider The Source - thetubeguy1954 09:38:42 08/31/06 (1)
- Re: Cheap-Jack, Consider The Source - john curl 12:19:36 08/31/06 (0)
- That's part of the equation - E-Stat 14:51:27 08/29/06 (11)
- Right, where can we get a "perfect cable"? - cheap-Jack 06:45:34 08/30/06 (0)
- Re: That's part of the equation - Soundmind 16:21:25 08/29/06 (9)
- You're not learning - E-Stat 17:47:55 08/29/06 (8)
- No, I'm teaching - Soundmind 17:58:38 08/29/06 (7)
- Only to those who don't know better - E-Stat 19:04:51 08/29/06 (6)
- Why waste yr time on soapy nuts? (nt) - cheap-Jack 07:06:36 08/30/06 (5)
- Good question - E-Stat 07:50:27 08/30/06 (4)
- Mind you.. - cheap-Jack 13:04:05 08/30/06 (3)
- Re: Mind you.. - john curl 13:51:21 08/30/06 (2)
- I am listening.. - cheap-Jack 18:19:31 08/30/06 (1)
- Re: I am listening.. - john curl 18:51:10 08/30/06 (0)
- Subjectivity is a basic instinct, but can be rational. - cheap-Jack 12:16:54 08/29/06 (3)
- "Can't explain at all as CD is 100% non-contact laser sensing." Hmm... - clarkjohnsen 07:38:35 08/30/06 (2)
- Re: "Can't explain at all as CD is 100% non-contact laser sensing." Hmm... - Soundmind 09:29:54 08/30/06 (1)
- You're as risibly wrong as ever and shamelessly flaunting it. Bless you for being such a bad example to all. nt - clarkjohnsen 09:34:48 08/30/06 (0)
- So tell us all May so that we can get it right..... - Soundmind 11:31:49 08/27/06 (30)
- What an argument !!! - cheap-Jack 13:20:17 08/28/06 (27)
- Re: What an argument !!! - Soundmind 15:06:37 08/28/06 (26)
- I got to be "fortunate" or my ears are all rusted. - cheap-Jack 08:26:42 08/29/06 (20)
- Re: I got to be "fortunate" or my ears are all rusted. - Soundmind 13:04:58 08/29/06 (17)
- You've never answered this question before - E-Stat 15:19:54 08/29/06 (16)
- Re: You've never answered this question before - Soundmind 16:15:00 08/29/06 (15)
- Ja wul, commandant - E-Stat 17:35:47 08/29/06 (14)
- Re: Ja wul, commandant - Soundmind 18:08:49 08/29/06 (13)
- Ah, I knew the villain had to be audiophiles somehow - E-Stat 19:01:05 08/29/06 (12)
- Re: Ah, I knew the villain had to be audiophiles somehow - Soundmind 08:29:34 08/30/06 (11)
- Hey, big surprise - I agree with your first point! - E-Stat 09:39:28 08/30/06 (10)
- There's always an excuse - Soundmind 09:57:20 08/30/06 (9)
- Exposure! - E-Stat 10:16:29 08/30/06 (8)
- Re: Exposure! - Soundmind 10:24:53 08/30/06 (7)
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- Re: There are individual characteristics of musical reproduction - Soundmind 11:03:25 08/30/06 (5)
- Hmmm, milder tone here - E-Stat 11:44:18 08/30/06 (4)
- Re: Hmmm, milder tone here - Soundmind 12:06:17 08/30/06 (3)
- Good points here, different experience - E-Stat 13:19:44 08/30/06 (2)
- Re: Good points here, different experience - Soundmind 14:05:41 08/30/06 (1)
- I sit corrected - E-Stat 14:29:31 08/30/06 (0)
- Priorities - E-Stat 10:11:36 08/29/06 (1)
- I second your "vote". - cheap-Jack 12:46:03 08/29/06 (0)
- As for me - E-Stat 18:24:00 08/28/06 (4)
- Re: As for me - Soundmind 18:35:38 08/28/06 (3)
- Is that why - E-Stat 19:09:40 08/28/06 (2)
- Which Stereophile test CD is it? (nt) - cheap-Jack 07:55:18 08/29/06 (1)
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- Re: So tell us all May so that we can get it right..... - May Belt 13:55:37 08/27/06 (1)
- Re: So tell us all May so that we can get it right..... - Soundmind 14:03:18 08/27/06 (0)
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- Can you hear at 400,000,000 Hz? - Caymus 08:42:59 08/27/06 (26)
- Re: Can you hear at 400,000,000 Hz? - AJinFLA 18:09:02 08/27/06 (22)
- Oops...got it now ;-) (nt) - Caymus 12:21:54 08/28/06 (0)
- Re: Can you hear at 400,000,000 Hz? - thetubeguy1954 11:11:05 08/28/06 (20)
- Re: Can you hear at 400,000,000 Hz? - AJinFLA 14:29:38 08/28/06 (19)
- Can You Hear At All? - thetubeguy1954 09:32:21 08/29/06 (1)
- In stereo (nt) - AJinFLA 14:24:14 08/29/06 (0)
- Can You Hear At All? - thetubeguy1954 08:58:35 08/29/06 (16)
- Re: Can You Hear At All? - AJinFLA 19:49:16 08/29/06 (15)
- Re: Can You Hear At All? - thetubeguy1954 06:20:54 08/30/06 (14)
- Re: Can You Hear At All? - AJinFLA 06:56:04 08/30/06 (13)
- I Noticed You Avoided All My Questions - thetubeguy1954 07:17:43 08/30/06 (12)
- Re: I Noticed You Avoided All My Questions - AJinFLA 09:21:44 08/30/06 (11)
- At Least You Answered Them.... - thetubeguy1954 11:47:11 08/30/06 (10)
- Re: At Least You Answered Them.... - AJinFLA 17:56:36 08/30/06 (9)
- Re: At Least You Answered Them.... - thetubeguy1954 10:42:32 08/31/06 (8)
- Re: At Least You Answered Them.... - AJinFLA 15:15:26 08/31/06 (7)
- Hey there! - Pat D 17:15:04 09/01/06 (2)
- Finally Looking For Real Highend Speakers Pat? - thetubeguy1954 10:47:52 09/07/06 (1)
- Have you heard the Summa and/or the Orion? - Pat D 10:29:59 09/08/06 (0)
- Stupid Is As Stupid Does.... - thetubeguy1954 12:35:20 09/01/06 (3)
- All of the people posting positive experiences at Cable Asylum can - Soundmind 11:02:16 08/27/06 (2)
- The Cable Asylum Batmen - Caymus 12:49:27 08/27/06 (1)
- Re: The Cable Asylum Batmen - Soundmind 12:56:38 08/27/06 (0)
- Simple, nobody gives a shit, this is an audio board. - Soundmind 08:22:36 08/27/06 (2)
- So why do you post here? nt - Norm 11:21:09 08/27/06 (1)
- Because you enjoy reading it so much, that's why (nt) - Soundmind 11:49:31 08/27/06 (0)
- Re: What Is The Average Objectivists Beliefs On Wires? - Soundmind 05:13:48 08/27/06 (54)
- "credible independent evidence" - BS64 05:45:59 08/27/06 (50)
- Re: "credible independent evidence" - Soundmind 06:03:00 08/27/06 (49)
- Excellent points - BS64 06:23:02 08/27/06 (48)
- Re: Excellent points - john curl 09:33:36 08/27/06 (24)
- Re: Excellent points - mls-stl 09:18:21 08/29/06 (0)
- "DB blind tests seem to turn US into THESE people." Stop, yer killin' me! - clarkjohnsen 07:49:40 08/28/06 (14)
- Re: "DB blind tests seem to turn US into THESE people." Stop, yer killin' me! - Soundmind 09:17:07 08/28/06 (13)
- Is it congenital, or constitutional? I mean, that you're a liar. nt - clarkjohnsen 09:25:38 08/28/06 (12)
- Is being tone deaf a drawback to becoming a professional record reviewer? nt - Soundmind 11:00:01 08/28/06 (11)
- Re: Is being tone deaf a drawback to becoming a professional record reviewer? nt - john curl 13:43:28 08/28/06 (10)
- Re: Is being tone deaf a drawback to becoming a professional record reviewer? nt - Soundmind 14:56:18 08/28/06 (9)
- Re: Is being tone deaf a drawback to becoming a professional record reviewer? nt - john curl 16:00:17 08/28/06 (8)
- Re: Is being tone deaf a drawback to becoming a professional record reviewer? nt - Soundmind 18:38:48 08/28/06 (0)
- He also has the strange notion that Clark is a record reviewer. nt - markrohr 16:51:20 08/28/06 (6)
- The boy is just *full* of strange notions. (Plus being busted as a liar.) nt - clarkjohnsen 07:10:25 08/29/06 (5)
- Yes I lied...I said you are a reviewer. It's clear from you postings you're not even that. - Soundmind 07:27:02 08/29/06 (4)
- That was just one of MANY. You're totally busted, pal! nt - clarkjohnsen 07:55:38 08/29/06 (3)
- And here after I defended you - Soundmind 11:10:43 08/29/06 (2)
- Re: And here after I defended you - Steve Eddy 12:20:56 08/29/06 (1)
- Re: And here after I defended you - Soundmind 13:06:56 08/29/06 (0)
- Re: Excellent points - BS64 11:01:04 08/27/06 (1)
- Re: Excellent points - kerr 12:15:23 08/27/06 (0)
- Oh Puleeeeeeeeze - Soundmind 10:36:22 08/27/06 (5)
- Re: Oh Puleeeeeeeeze - soulfood 11:28:24 08/27/06 (4)
- Re: Oh Puleeeeeeeeze - john curl 12:10:20 08/27/06 (3)
- Re: silver oxidation - mls-stl 13:57:29 08/27/06 (1)
- Re: silver oxidation - Soundmind 14:11:45 08/27/06 (0)
- Re: Oh Puleeeeeeeeze - Soundmind 13:41:59 08/27/06 (0)
- Re: Excellent points - Soundmind 07:38:24 08/27/06 (22)
- A certain lack of knowledge - unclestu52 13:40:14 08/27/06 (11)
- Re: A certain lack of knowledge - Soundmind 13:54:40 08/27/06 (10)
- Re: A certain lack of knowledge - unclestu52 14:49:49 08/27/06 (9)
- Re: A certain lack of knowledge - Soundmind 15:20:48 08/27/06 (7)
- Re: A certain lack of knowledge - unclestu52 20:48:52 08/28/06 (6)
- Re: A certain lack of knowledge - Soundmind 03:12:15 08/29/06 (5)
- Interesting - unclestu52 13:12:40 08/29/06 (3)
- Re: Interesting - Soundmind 15:03:53 08/29/06 (2)
- I agree - unclestu52 16:42:56 08/29/06 (1)
- Re: I agree - Soundmind 05:52:03 08/30/06 (0)
- Re: A certain lack of knowledge - john curl 06:35:14 08/29/06 (0)
- Re: A certain lack of knowledge - john curl 14:54:25 08/27/06 (0)
- all too familiar... - BS64 10:36:38 08/27/06 (9)
- Re: all too familiar... - Soundmind 11:00:22 08/27/06 (8)
- "extraordinarily dangerous" - BS64 11:26:52 08/27/06 (7)
- Re: "extraordinarily dangerous" - Soundmind 11:48:32 08/27/06 (6)
- Re: "extraordinarily dangerous" - BS64 07:17:36 08/31/06 (1)
- Re: "I drove a compact truck carrying jugs of sodium hypochlorite and muriatic acid" - geoffkait 10:33:36 08/31/06 (0)
- Re: "extraordinarily dangerous" - john curl 12:13:01 08/27/06 (3)
- Re: "extraordinarily dangerous" - Soundmind 13:11:23 08/27/06 (2)
- Re: "extraordinarily dangerous" - john curl 13:53:39 08/27/06 (1)
- Re: "extraordinarily dangerous" - Soundmind 13:59:53 08/27/06 (0)
- Re: What Is The Average Objectivists Beliefs On Wires? - Dan Banquer 05:18:02 08/27/06 (2)
- Re: What Is The Average Objectivists Beliefs On Wires? - Soundmind 05:49:43 08/27/06 (1)
- Re: What Is The Average Objectivists Beliefs On Wires? - john curl 09:37:54 08/27/06 (0)
- BFD - Don T 20:59:53 08/26/06 (1)
- there's a third opton: - robert young 04:18:54 08/29/06 (0)
- Re: What Is The Average Objectivists Beliefs On Wires? - Paul Butterfield 07:17:03 08/26/06 (0)
- Re: What Is The Average Objectivists Beliefs On Wires? - mls-stl 20:24:19 08/25/06 (0)
- Re: What is an "Average Objectivists"... - mkuller 12:27:56 08/25/06 (34)
- Ahem.....can I be of assistance? - Bruce Kendall 17:53:24 08/25/06 (0)
- Re: What is an "Average Objectivists"... - thetubeguy1954 14:07:33 08/25/06 (32)
- Are you writing a book or looking for an arguement? - mkuller 14:09:41 08/25/06 (31)
- Neither Trying To Understand Their POV - thetubeguy1954 07:59:48 08/26/06 (30)
- Ok, here it is... - mkuller 10:15:34 08/26/06 (29)
- Not quite... - KlausR. 11:08:45 08/26/06 (28)
- You know what your problem is Klaus?..... - Soundmind 03:44:19 08/29/06 (5)
- Re: You know what your problem is Klaus?..... - john curl 06:37:18 08/29/06 (1)
- Re: You know what your problem is Klaus?..... - Soundmind 07:28:37 08/29/06 (0)
- The only wire-related problem I have... - KlausR. 04:54:44 08/29/06 (2)
- Re: The only wire-related problem I have... - Soundmind 13:15:57 08/29/06 (1)
- There's even worse! - KlausR. 00:02:32 08/30/06 (0)
- Only Sometimes - thetubeguy1954 12:19:33 08/28/06 (9)
- Re: Only Sometimes - KlausR. 00:32:29 08/29/06 (8)
- Klaus Your Actions Proved My Point For Me --- Thanks! - thetubeguy1954 07:36:47 08/30/06 (5)
- Did I really prove your point? - KlausR. 00:52:42 08/31/06 (3)
- Yes You Did.... - thetubeguy1954 13:00:51 09/01/06 (2)
- Ok, ok, I confess, I'm a believer!!! - KlausR. 21:32:31 09/02/06 (1)
- Re: Ok, ok, I confess, I'm a believer!!! - Pat D 12:47:49 09/09/06 (0)
- Your poor logical skills are showing again. - Pat D 19:44:31 08/30/06 (0)
- Re: Only Sometimes - Pat D 08:03:26 08/29/06 (1)
- Yes, that's the review I was thinking of - KlausR. 06:55:23 08/30/06 (0)
- Another kind of bias - okiemax 16:30:59 08/26/06 (0)
- Re: Not quite... - john curl 15:17:21 08/26/06 (10)
- From my point of view, you and Floyd Toole are two peas in a pod - Soundmind 04:49:26 08/27/06 (7)
- Re: From my point of view, you and Floyd Toole are two peas in a pod - Pat D 16:41:26 08/29/06 (0)
- "engages in tests of recordings versus live music to see if your preferred equipment can duplictate it convincingly" - BS64 06:01:30 08/27/06 (5)
- Re: "engages in tests of recordings versus live music to see if your preferred equipment can duplictate it convincingly" - Soundmind 06:12:54 08/27/06 (4)
- I have assembled... - BS64 06:38:06 08/27/06 (3)
- Re: I have assembled... - Soundmind 08:02:24 08/27/06 (2)
- that's where we novices can get confused - BS64 11:49:01 08/27/06 (1)
- Re: that's where we novices can get confused - Soundmind 12:01:12 08/27/06 (0)
- Did Toole make any methodological mistakes in... - KlausR. 00:06:59 08/27/06 (0)
- Hmmmm . . . - Pat D 19:58:59 08/26/06 (0)
Follow Ups
- Re: Reversesd cables sound different can be explained. - john curl 13:53:08 08/28/06 (8)
- Please don't confuse the issue. (long) - cheap-Jack 07:48:43 08/29/06 (7)
- Re: Please don't confuse the issue. (long) - john curl 23:50:41 08/29/06 (6)
- It should not be coaxial which is non-directional. (nt) - cheap-Jack 06:59:33 08/30/06 (5)
- Re: It should not be coaxial which is non-directional. (nt) - john curl 11:33:09 08/30/06 (4)
- Good question. - cheap-Jack 12:45:02 08/30/06 (3)
- Re: Good question. - john curl 13:19:36 08/30/06 (2)
- Oooops, it means no logic. (nt) - cheap-Jack 13:45:56 08/30/06 (0)
- Re: Good question. - Soundmind 13:33:35 08/30/06 (0)