Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - Richard BassNut Greene

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Topic - What Is The Average Objectivists Beliefs On Wires? - thetubeguy1954 09:47:17 08/25/06 (305)

Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - Richard BassNut Greene 13:31:04 08/28/06 (70)

Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - thetubeguy1954 06:19:51 08/29/06 (1)

Re: the conclusion that wires of these lengths sound different will be a proven belief and fact! - KlausR. 06:43:50 08/29/06 (0)

I'll bet you're the life of every party you attend! :) (nt) - kerr 17:33:50 08/28/06 (4)

You're right! .... Especially when I dance with a lampshade on my head! - Richard BassNut Greene 07:29:33 08/29/06 (3)

But not until after you measure the lampshade... - kerr 09:30:44 08/29/06 (2)

I guess in your case, the wife acceptance factor was zero - Soundmind 12:24:24 08/29/06 (1)

Well, double blind tests proved something - kerr 17:48:14 08/29/06 (0)

Do you find the objective data fully characterizes all aspects of audio performance? (nt) - E-Stat 13:56:36 08/28/06 (45)

Objective methodology used only for listeners to prove they can hear a difference -- then subjective opinions rule - Richard BassNut Greene 07:47:11 08/29/06 (44)

Thanks - E-Stat 10:05:46 08/29/06 (43)

"over a period of days, not seconds" - Tre' 13:57:44 08/30/06 (1)

DBTs and SBTs usually last an hour or two ... but can last for days and weeks if you prefer - Richard BassNut Greene 08:54:18 08/31/06 (0)

SPL matching - unclestu52 11:39:43 08/29/06 (40)

No, that' s MY equipment - Soundmind 13:11:26 08/29/06 (1)

My apologies, (NT) - unclestu52 13:39:41 08/29/06 (0)

I think you are confusing RBNG with SM - E-Stat 12:40:26 08/29/06 (0)

That Explains It! - thetubeguy1954 12:24:30 08/29/06 (36)

Re: That Explains It! - john curl 15:07:11 08/29/06 (33)

Along about that same time a certain audio authority declared that a particular Audio Technica cartridge... - clarkjohnsen 07:42:50 08/30/06 (0)

Re: That Explains It! - Soundmind 07:08:30 08/30/06 (31)

What It REALLY Explains! - thetubeguy1954 07:52:18 08/30/06 (30)

Re: What It REALLY Explains! - Soundmind 08:12:51 08/30/06 (29)

Re: What It REALLY Explains! - thetubeguy1954 10:39:39 08/30/06 (28)

SM is the guy on top - E-Stat 11:19:49 08/30/06 (26)

Then E-Stat you must be the monkey in the middle - Soundmind 11:34:33 08/30/06 (25)

You're right! - E-Stat 12:23:23 08/30/06 (3)

Re: You're right! - Soundmind 12:50:02 08/30/06 (2)

Ironically, it sounds like - E-Stat 13:37:13 08/30/06 (1)

Re: Ironically, it sounds like - Soundmind 14:10:32 08/30/06 (0)

Re: Then E-Stat you must be the monkey in the middle - thetubeguy1954 12:09:30 08/30/06 (20)

tubeguy, you can insult me all you like but it doesn't change the facts, the truth you refuese to believe - Soundmind 13:09:25 08/30/06 (19)

Re: Wrong, Flat wrong. - theaudiohobby 23:41:09 09/01/06 (0)

Soundmind It's YOU Who Refuses To Believe The Facts & The Truth -- NOT Me! - thetubeguy1954 08:11:01 08/31/06 (9)

And a very angry old man as well. nt - clarkjohnsen 08:02:40 09/01/06 (0)

Bear in mind that your antagonist is a proven liar. nt - clarkjohnsen 12:54:07 08/31/06 (1)

You'll need two of these for stereo Clark - Soundmind 14:39:33 08/31/06 (0)

tubeguy, you don't know what you are saying - Soundmind 09:52:54 08/31/06 (5)

Soundmind YOU don't know what YOU'RE saying.... - thetubeguy1954 12:54:20 09/01/06 (1)

Translation - E-Stat 19:18:47 09/05/06 (0)

Re: tubeguy, you don't know what you are saying - john curl 22:44:23 08/31/06 (2)

At least Click and Clack, aka the Maggliozzi brothers - E-Stat 11:20:27 09/01/06 (0)

I'll put my sound system up against yours any day - Soundmind 03:39:05 09/01/06 (0)

Yet... - E-Stat 13:57:11 08/30/06 (6)

Re: Yet... - john curl 23:34:52 08/31/06 (5)

And yet ..... - clifff 01:46:32 09/01/06 (4)

Expectations go both ways... - E-Stat 08:23:20 09/01/06 (1)

Re: Expectations go both ways... - john curl 08:42:19 09/01/06 (0)

Re: And yet ..... - john curl 07:12:53 09/01/06 (1)

I wasn't asking YOU anything. - clifff 07:43:51 09/01/06 (0)

And here's the rub - kerr 13:41:50 08/30/06 (0)

Re: What It REALLY Explains! - Soundmind 10:52:37 08/30/06 (1)

I find myself far more in agreement with RBNG - E-Stat 15:05:30 08/29/06 (1)

Re: I find myself far more in agreement with RBNG - john curl 15:13:38 08/29/06 (0)

Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - john curl 13:35:02 08/28/06 (16)

Believe ... but verify - Richard BassNut Greene 07:53:16 08/29/06 (0)

Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - Steve Eddy 14:30:04 08/28/06 (14)

Not the Buddhists - Bertie_Livingston 16:13:33 08/28/06 (1)

Re: Not the Buddhists - Steve Eddy 09:42:17 08/29/06 (0)

Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - john curl 16:07:32 08/28/06 (11)

Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - Steve Eddy 16:29:46 08/28/06 (10)

Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - thetubeguy1954 06:32:36 08/29/06 (3)

Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - Steve Eddy 09:39:48 08/29/06 (2)

Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - thetubeguy1954 10:40:08 08/29/06 (1)

Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - Steve Eddy 11:21:51 08/29/06 (0)

Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - john curl 16:50:58 08/28/06 (5)

Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - Steve Eddy 20:50:30 08/28/06 (4)

Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - john curl 21:28:40 08/28/06 (3)

Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - Steve Eddy 23:00:32 08/28/06 (2)

Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - john curl 23:10:02 08/28/06 (1)

Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - Steve Eddy 23:49:19 08/28/06 (0)

If you honestly wanted to know,you could have read the Audioholics cable articles - Atexanathome 14:33:25 08/27/06 (19)

Re: If you honestly wanted to know,you could have read the Audioholics cable articles - thetubeguy1954 10:48:12 08/28/06 (18)

Just to play the devil's advocate - unclestu52 20:20:18 08/30/06 (0)

Re: define "benign" - mls-stl 12:12:39 08/29/06 (4)

Please Tell Me Your Post Is Being Sarcastic - thetubeguy1954 11:01:36 08/30/06 (3)

Re: Nope, sorry - mls-stl 13:16:24 08/30/06 (2)

OK But.... - thetubeguy1954 09:17:55 08/31/06 (1)

Re: Res Ipsa Loquitur - mls-stl 11:26:24 08/31/06 (0)

Re: If you honestly wanted to know,you could have read the Audioholics cable articles - Jon Risch 16:54:28 08/28/06 (11)

Re: If you honestly wanted to know,you could have read the Audioholics cable articles - Soundmind 07:32:18 08/29/06 (0)

Re: If you honestly wanted to know,you could have read the Audioholics cable articles - thetubeguy1954 06:53:28 08/29/06 (9)

Very Complicated Situation - Jon Risch 21:09:20 08/29/06 (8)

Simple Situation, your bullshit has putrified to an unbearable stench - Soundmind 07:00:52 08/30/06 (7)

Typical - Jon Risch 16:42:39 08/30/06 (2)

I am not impressed or intimidaded by self appointed tin pot gods - Soundmind 18:26:58 08/30/06 (1)

I am not impressed or intimidaded by self-appointed gods. - robert young 05:24:25 08/31/06 (0)

Re: Simple Situation, your bullshit has putrified to an unbearable stench - john curl 11:10:24 08/30/06 (3)

Thank you for your detailed technical rebuttal - Soundmind 11:42:59 08/30/06 (2)

Re: Thank you for your detailed technical rebuttal - john curl 12:09:16 08/30/06 (1)

Re: Thank you for your detailed technical rebuttal - Soundmind 12:38:38 08/30/06 (0)

Re: What Is The Average Objectivists Beliefs On Wires? - May Belt 10:55:33 08/27/06 (88)

Reversesd cables sound different can be explained. - cheap-Jack 12:28:53 08/28/06 (26)

The effect is most audible between 100,000,000 hz and 400,000,000 hz where it's unmistakable unless you're tone deaf nt - Soundmind 15:02:53 08/28/06 (16)

Substantiate your claim please. - cheap-Jack 16:02:55 08/28/06 (15)

Re: Substantiate your claim please. - Soundmind 16:11:50 08/28/06 (14)

Fine example of simplistic reasoning - E-Stat 18:31:29 08/28/06 (13)

Re: Fine example of simplistic reasoning - Michael Y 03:16:08 08/30/06 (6)

Tune an AM radio off station near a high RF source like a CD player - E-Stat 05:48:25 08/30/06 (5)

Re: Tune an AM radio off station near a high RF source like a CD player - Dan Banquer 06:33:37 08/30/06 (4)

Evidently, Dan - E-Stat 06:59:13 08/30/06 (3)

They're not interested. - Dan Banquer 07:58:09 08/30/06 (2)

What's the FCC doing? - Atexanathome 15:28:32 08/30/06 (1)

Re: What's the FCC doing? - Dan Banquer 17:06:09 08/30/06 (0)

Interesting point - unclestu52 20:37:16 08/28/06 (0)

Re: Fine example of simplistic reasoning - Soundmind 18:37:16 08/28/06 (4)

Gee, has Johnny Neutron corrected your speculative theory (very gently) too much recently? - E-Stat 18:54:38 08/28/06 (3)

sheesh..go on vaca for 10 days, and they forget my name.. - jneutron 07:34:37 09/05/06 (1)

In repentance - E-Stat 08:21:51 09/06/06 (0)

Re: Gee, has Johnny Neutron corrected your speculative theory (very gently) too much recently? - Soundmind 03:13:26 08/29/06 (0)

Re: Reversesd cables sound different can be explained. - john curl 13:53:08 08/28/06 (8)

Please don't confuse the issue. (long) - cheap-Jack 07:48:43 08/29/06 (7)

Re: Please don't confuse the issue. (long) - john curl 23:50:41 08/29/06 (6)

It should not be coaxial which is non-directional. (nt) - cheap-Jack 06:59:33 08/30/06 (5)

Re: It should not be coaxial which is non-directional. (nt) - john curl 11:33:09 08/30/06 (4)

Good question. - cheap-Jack 12:45:02 08/30/06 (3)

Re: Good question. - john curl 13:19:36 08/30/06 (2)

Oooops, it means no logic. (nt) - cheap-Jack 13:45:56 08/30/06 (0)

Re: Good question. - Soundmind 13:33:35 08/30/06 (0)

Good one, May! (Suggest you bother no further to reply to sarcastic male harridans.) nt - clarkjohnsen 09:14:52 08/28/06 (29)

Re: Good one, May! (Suggest you bother no further to reply to sarcastic male harridans.) nt - May Belt 09:03:45 08/29/06 (28)

"The fact that it has happened has to be dealt with." Or, not. Look at the magazines: - clarkjohnsen 08:00:29 08/30/06 (3)

Re: "The fact that it has happened has to be dealt with." Or, not. Look at the magazines: - Soundmind 08:54:31 08/30/06 (2)

The lies continue unabated; it becomes my lot to make sure the offending posts don't simply disappear. - clarkjohnsen 09:10:56 08/30/06 (1)

And you've succeeded. You've certainly been active putting them up and you never delete them. - Soundmind 09:16:14 08/30/06 (0)

Save the snake oil for the Indians - Soundmind 12:21:54 08/29/06 (19)

A cable is "an attenuator", my friend. (nt) - cheap-Jack 12:34:49 08/29/06 (18)

Not deliberately - Soundmind 12:56:20 08/29/06 (17)

Enough is enough. Quit your soap shows please. (nt) - cheap-Jack 06:51:10 08/30/06 (4)

What's your problem, don't confuse us with the facts, our minds are made up? I get it. - Soundmind 08:17:02 08/30/06 (3)

How "actually much worse" ??? - cheap-Jack 13:28:54 08/30/06 (2)

Cheap-Jack, Consider The Source - thetubeguy1954 09:38:42 08/31/06 (1)

Re: Cheap-Jack, Consider The Source - john curl 12:19:36 08/31/06 (0)

That's part of the equation - E-Stat 14:51:27 08/29/06 (11)

Right, where can we get a "perfect cable"? - cheap-Jack 06:45:34 08/30/06 (0)

Re: That's part of the equation - Soundmind 16:21:25 08/29/06 (9)

You're not learning - E-Stat 17:47:55 08/29/06 (8)

No, I'm teaching - Soundmind 17:58:38 08/29/06 (7)

Only to those who don't know better - E-Stat 19:04:51 08/29/06 (6)

Why waste yr time on soapy nuts? (nt) - cheap-Jack 07:06:36 08/30/06 (5)

Good question - E-Stat 07:50:27 08/30/06 (4)

Mind you.. - cheap-Jack 13:04:05 08/30/06 (3)

Re: Mind you.. - john curl 13:51:21 08/30/06 (2)

I am listening.. - cheap-Jack 18:19:31 08/30/06 (1)

Re: I am listening.. - john curl 18:51:10 08/30/06 (0)

Subjectivity is a basic instinct, but can be rational. - cheap-Jack 12:16:54 08/29/06 (3)

"Can't explain at all as CD is 100% non-contact laser sensing." Hmm... - clarkjohnsen 07:38:35 08/30/06 (2)

Re: "Can't explain at all as CD is 100% non-contact laser sensing." Hmm... - Soundmind 09:29:54 08/30/06 (1)

You're as risibly wrong as ever and shamelessly flaunting it. Bless you for being such a bad example to all. nt - clarkjohnsen 09:34:48 08/30/06 (0)

So tell us all May so that we can get it right..... - Soundmind 11:31:49 08/27/06 (30)

What an argument !!! - cheap-Jack 13:20:17 08/28/06 (27)

Re: What an argument !!! - Soundmind 15:06:37 08/28/06 (26)

I got to be "fortunate" or my ears are all rusted. - cheap-Jack 08:26:42 08/29/06 (20)

Re: I got to be "fortunate" or my ears are all rusted. - Soundmind 13:04:58 08/29/06 (17)

You've never answered this question before - E-Stat 15:19:54 08/29/06 (16)

Re: You've never answered this question before - Soundmind 16:15:00 08/29/06 (15)

Ja wul, commandant - E-Stat 17:35:47 08/29/06 (14)

Re: Ja wul, commandant - Soundmind 18:08:49 08/29/06 (13)

Ah, I knew the villain had to be audiophiles somehow - E-Stat 19:01:05 08/29/06 (12)

Re: Ah, I knew the villain had to be audiophiles somehow - Soundmind 08:29:34 08/30/06 (11)

Hey, big surprise - I agree with your first point! - E-Stat 09:39:28 08/30/06 (10)

There's always an excuse - Soundmind 09:57:20 08/30/06 (9)

Exposure! - E-Stat 10:16:29 08/30/06 (8)

Re: Exposure! - Soundmind 10:24:53 08/30/06 (7)

There are individual characteristics of musical reproduction - E-Stat 10:41:29 08/30/06 (6)

Re: There are individual characteristics of musical reproduction - Soundmind 11:03:25 08/30/06 (5)

Hmmm, milder tone here - E-Stat 11:44:18 08/30/06 (4)

Re: Hmmm, milder tone here - Soundmind 12:06:17 08/30/06 (3)

Good points here, different experience - E-Stat 13:19:44 08/30/06 (2)

Re: Good points here, different experience - Soundmind 14:05:41 08/30/06 (1)

I sit corrected - E-Stat 14:29:31 08/30/06 (0)

Priorities - E-Stat 10:11:36 08/29/06 (1)

I second your "vote". - cheap-Jack 12:46:03 08/29/06 (0)

As for me - E-Stat 18:24:00 08/28/06 (4)

Re: As for me - Soundmind 18:35:38 08/28/06 (3)

Is that why - E-Stat 19:09:40 08/28/06 (2)

Which Stereophile test CD is it? (nt) - cheap-Jack 07:55:18 08/29/06 (1)

I have three of them, but used STPH 002-2 dated 1990 - E-Stat 09:57:10 08/29/06 (0)

Re: So tell us all May so that we can get it right..... - May Belt 13:55:37 08/27/06 (1)

Re: So tell us all May so that we can get it right..... - Soundmind 14:03:18 08/27/06 (0)

What Is The Average Objectivists Beliefs On VGA Cables? - AJinFLA 06:29:59 08/27/06 (30)

Can you hear at 400,000,000 Hz? - Caymus 08:42:59 08/27/06 (26)

Re: Can you hear at 400,000,000 Hz? - AJinFLA 18:09:02 08/27/06 (22)

Oops...got it now ;-) (nt) - Caymus 12:21:54 08/28/06 (0)

Re: Can you hear at 400,000,000 Hz? - thetubeguy1954 11:11:05 08/28/06 (20)

Re: Can you hear at 400,000,000 Hz? - AJinFLA 14:29:38 08/28/06 (19)

Can You Hear At All? - thetubeguy1954 09:32:21 08/29/06 (1)

In stereo (nt) - AJinFLA 14:24:14 08/29/06 (0)

Can You Hear At All? - thetubeguy1954 08:58:35 08/29/06 (16)

Re: Can You Hear At All? - AJinFLA 19:49:16 08/29/06 (15)

Re: Can You Hear At All? - thetubeguy1954 06:20:54 08/30/06 (14)

Re: Can You Hear At All? - AJinFLA 06:56:04 08/30/06 (13)

I Noticed You Avoided All My Questions - thetubeguy1954 07:17:43 08/30/06 (12)

Re: I Noticed You Avoided All My Questions - AJinFLA 09:21:44 08/30/06 (11)

At Least You Answered Them.... - thetubeguy1954 11:47:11 08/30/06 (10)

Re: At Least You Answered Them.... - AJinFLA 17:56:36 08/30/06 (9)

Re: At Least You Answered Them.... - thetubeguy1954 10:42:32 08/31/06 (8)

Re: At Least You Answered Them.... - AJinFLA 15:15:26 08/31/06 (7)

Hey there! - Pat D 17:15:04 09/01/06 (2)

Finally Looking For Real Highend Speakers Pat? - thetubeguy1954 10:47:52 09/07/06 (1)

Have you heard the Summa and/or the Orion? - Pat D 10:29:59 09/08/06 (0)

Stupid Is As Stupid Does.... - thetubeguy1954 12:35:20 09/01/06 (3)

LOL - AJinFLA 17:13:48 09/01/06 (2)

Re: LOL - thetubeguy1954 07:02:12 09/06/06 (0)

Re: LOL - john curl 11:05:58 09/02/06 (0)

All of the people posting positive experiences at Cable Asylum can - Soundmind 11:02:16 08/27/06 (2)

The Cable Asylum Batmen - Caymus 12:49:27 08/27/06 (1)

Re: The Cable Asylum Batmen - Soundmind 12:56:38 08/27/06 (0)

Simple, nobody gives a shit, this is an audio board. - Soundmind 08:22:36 08/27/06 (2)

So why do you post here? nt - Norm 11:21:09 08/27/06 (1)

Because you enjoy reading it so much, that's why (nt) - Soundmind 11:49:31 08/27/06 (0)

Re: What Is The Average Objectivists Beliefs On Wires? - Soundmind 05:13:48 08/27/06 (54)

"credible independent evidence" - BS64 05:45:59 08/27/06 (50)

Re: "credible independent evidence" - Soundmind 06:03:00 08/27/06 (49)

Excellent points - BS64 06:23:02 08/27/06 (48)

Re: Excellent points - john curl 09:33:36 08/27/06 (24)

Re: Excellent points - mls-stl 09:18:21 08/29/06 (0)

"DB blind tests seem to turn US into THESE people." Stop, yer killin' me! - clarkjohnsen 07:49:40 08/28/06 (14)

Re: "DB blind tests seem to turn US into THESE people." Stop, yer killin' me! - Soundmind 09:17:07 08/28/06 (13)

Is it congenital, or constitutional? I mean, that you're a liar. nt - clarkjohnsen 09:25:38 08/28/06 (12)

Is being tone deaf a drawback to becoming a professional record reviewer? nt - Soundmind 11:00:01 08/28/06 (11)

Re: Is being tone deaf a drawback to becoming a professional record reviewer? nt - john curl 13:43:28 08/28/06 (10)

Re: Is being tone deaf a drawback to becoming a professional record reviewer? nt - Soundmind 14:56:18 08/28/06 (9)

Re: Is being tone deaf a drawback to becoming a professional record reviewer? nt - john curl 16:00:17 08/28/06 (8)

Re: Is being tone deaf a drawback to becoming a professional record reviewer? nt - Soundmind 18:38:48 08/28/06 (0)

He also has the strange notion that Clark is a record reviewer. nt - markrohr 16:51:20 08/28/06 (6)

The boy is just *full* of strange notions. (Plus being busted as a liar.) nt - clarkjohnsen 07:10:25 08/29/06 (5)

Yes I lied...I said you are a reviewer. It's clear from you postings you're not even that. - Soundmind 07:27:02 08/29/06 (4)

That was just one of MANY. You're totally busted, pal! nt - clarkjohnsen 07:55:38 08/29/06 (3)

And here after I defended you - Soundmind 11:10:43 08/29/06 (2)

Re: And here after I defended you - Steve Eddy 12:20:56 08/29/06 (1)

Re: And here after I defended you - Soundmind 13:06:56 08/29/06 (0)

Re: Excellent points - BS64 11:01:04 08/27/06 (1)

Re: Excellent points - kerr 12:15:23 08/27/06 (0)

Oh Puleeeeeeeeze - Soundmind 10:36:22 08/27/06 (5)

Re: Oh Puleeeeeeeeze - soulfood 11:28:24 08/27/06 (4)

Re: Oh Puleeeeeeeeze - john curl 12:10:20 08/27/06 (3)

Re: silver oxidation - mls-stl 13:57:29 08/27/06 (1)

Re: silver oxidation - Soundmind 14:11:45 08/27/06 (0)

Re: Oh Puleeeeeeeeze - Soundmind 13:41:59 08/27/06 (0)

Re: Excellent points - Soundmind 07:38:24 08/27/06 (22)

A certain lack of knowledge - unclestu52 13:40:14 08/27/06 (11)

Re: A certain lack of knowledge - Soundmind 13:54:40 08/27/06 (10)

Re: A certain lack of knowledge - unclestu52 14:49:49 08/27/06 (9)

Re: A certain lack of knowledge - Soundmind 15:20:48 08/27/06 (7)

Re: A certain lack of knowledge - unclestu52 20:48:52 08/28/06 (6)

Re: A certain lack of knowledge - Soundmind 03:12:15 08/29/06 (5)

Interesting - unclestu52 13:12:40 08/29/06 (3)

Re: Interesting - Soundmind 15:03:53 08/29/06 (2)

I agree - unclestu52 16:42:56 08/29/06 (1)

Re: I agree - Soundmind 05:52:03 08/30/06 (0)

Re: A certain lack of knowledge - john curl 06:35:14 08/29/06 (0)

Re: A certain lack of knowledge - john curl 14:54:25 08/27/06 (0)

all too familiar... - BS64 10:36:38 08/27/06 (9)

Re: all too familiar... - Soundmind 11:00:22 08/27/06 (8)

"extraordinarily dangerous" - BS64 11:26:52 08/27/06 (7)

Re: "extraordinarily dangerous" - Soundmind 11:48:32 08/27/06 (6)

Re: "extraordinarily dangerous" - BS64 07:17:36 08/31/06 (1)

Re: "I drove a compact truck carrying jugs of sodium hypochlorite and muriatic acid" - geoffkait 10:33:36 08/31/06 (0)

Re: "extraordinarily dangerous" - john curl 12:13:01 08/27/06 (3)

Re: "extraordinarily dangerous" - Soundmind 13:11:23 08/27/06 (2)

Re: "extraordinarily dangerous" - john curl 13:53:39 08/27/06 (1)

Re: "extraordinarily dangerous" - Soundmind 13:59:53 08/27/06 (0)

Re: What Is The Average Objectivists Beliefs On Wires? - Dan Banquer 05:18:02 08/27/06 (2)

Re: What Is The Average Objectivists Beliefs On Wires? - Soundmind 05:49:43 08/27/06 (1)

Re: What Is The Average Objectivists Beliefs On Wires? - john curl 09:37:54 08/27/06 (0)

BFD - Don T 20:59:53 08/26/06 (1)

there's a third opton: - robert young 04:18:54 08/29/06 (0)

Re: What Is The Average Objectivists Beliefs On Wires? - Paul Butterfield 07:17:03 08/26/06 (0)

Re: What Is The Average Objectivists Beliefs On Wires? - mls-stl 20:24:19 08/25/06 (0)

Re: What is an "Average Objectivists"... - mkuller 12:27:56 08/25/06 (34)

Ahem.....can I be of assistance? - Bruce Kendall 17:53:24 08/25/06 (0)

Re: What is an "Average Objectivists"... - thetubeguy1954 14:07:33 08/25/06 (32)

Are you writing a book or looking for an arguement? - mkuller 14:09:41 08/25/06 (31)

Neither Trying To Understand Their POV - thetubeguy1954 07:59:48 08/26/06 (30)

Ok, here it is... - mkuller 10:15:34 08/26/06 (29)

Not quite... - KlausR. 11:08:45 08/26/06 (28)

You know what your problem is Klaus?..... - Soundmind 03:44:19 08/29/06 (5)

Re: You know what your problem is Klaus?..... - john curl 06:37:18 08/29/06 (1)

Re: You know what your problem is Klaus?..... - Soundmind 07:28:37 08/29/06 (0)

The only wire-related problem I have... - KlausR. 04:54:44 08/29/06 (2)

Re: The only wire-related problem I have... - Soundmind 13:15:57 08/29/06 (1)

There's even worse! - KlausR. 00:02:32 08/30/06 (0)

Only Sometimes - thetubeguy1954 12:19:33 08/28/06 (9)

Re: Only Sometimes - KlausR. 00:32:29 08/29/06 (8)

Klaus Your Actions Proved My Point For Me --- Thanks! - thetubeguy1954 07:36:47 08/30/06 (5)

Did I really prove your point? - KlausR. 00:52:42 08/31/06 (3)

Yes You Did.... - thetubeguy1954 13:00:51 09/01/06 (2)

Ok, ok, I confess, I'm a believer!!! - KlausR. 21:32:31 09/02/06 (1)

Re: Ok, ok, I confess, I'm a believer!!! - Pat D 12:47:49 09/09/06 (0)

Your poor logical skills are showing again. - Pat D 19:44:31 08/30/06 (0)

Re: Only Sometimes - Pat D 08:03:26 08/29/06 (1)

Yes, that's the review I was thinking of - KlausR. 06:55:23 08/30/06 (0)

Another kind of bias - okiemax 16:30:59 08/26/06 (0)

Re: Not quite... - john curl 15:17:21 08/26/06 (10)

From my point of view, you and Floyd Toole are two peas in a pod - Soundmind 04:49:26 08/27/06 (7)

Re: From my point of view, you and Floyd Toole are two peas in a pod - Pat D 16:41:26 08/29/06 (0)

"engages in tests of recordings versus live music to see if your preferred equipment can duplictate it convincingly" - BS64 06:01:30 08/27/06 (5)

Re: "engages in tests of recordings versus live music to see if your preferred equipment can duplictate it convincingly" - Soundmind 06:12:54 08/27/06 (4)

I have assembled... - BS64 06:38:06 08/27/06 (3)

Re: I have assembled... - Soundmind 08:02:24 08/27/06 (2)

that's where we novices can get confused - BS64 11:49:01 08/27/06 (1)

Re: that's where we novices can get confused - Soundmind 12:01:12 08/27/06 (0)

Did Toole make any methodological mistakes in... - KlausR. 00:06:59 08/27/06 (0)

Hmmmm . . . - Pat D 19:58:59 08/26/06 (0)

Follow Ups

Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - Richard BassNut Greene 13:31:04 08/28/06 (70)

Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - thetubeguy1954 06:19:51 08/29/06 (1)

Re: the conclusion that wires of these lengths sound different will be a proven belief and fact! - KlausR. 06:43:50 08/29/06 (0)

I'll bet you're the life of every party you attend! :) (nt) - kerr 17:33:50 08/28/06 (4)

You're right! .... Especially when I dance with a lampshade on my head! - Richard BassNut Greene 07:29:33 08/29/06 (3)

But not until after you measure the lampshade... - kerr 09:30:44 08/29/06 (2)

I guess in your case, the wife acceptance factor was zero - Soundmind 12:24:24 08/29/06 (1)

Well, double blind tests proved something - kerr 17:48:14 08/29/06 (0)

Do you find the objective data fully characterizes all aspects of audio performance? (nt) - E-Stat 13:56:36 08/28/06 (45)

Objective methodology used only for listeners to prove they can hear a difference -- then subjective opinions rule - Richard BassNut Greene 07:47:11 08/29/06 (44)

Thanks - E-Stat 10:05:46 08/29/06 (43)

"over a period of days, not seconds" - Tre' 13:57:44 08/30/06 (1)

DBTs and SBTs usually last an hour or two ... but can last for days and weeks if you prefer - Richard BassNut Greene 08:54:18 08/31/06 (0)

SPL matching - unclestu52 11:39:43 08/29/06 (40)

No, that' s MY equipment - Soundmind 13:11:26 08/29/06 (1)

My apologies, (NT) - unclestu52 13:39:41 08/29/06 (0)

I think you are confusing RBNG with SM - E-Stat 12:40:26 08/29/06 (0)

That Explains It! - thetubeguy1954 12:24:30 08/29/06 (36)

Re: That Explains It! - john curl 15:07:11 08/29/06 (33)

Along about that same time a certain audio authority declared that a particular Audio Technica cartridge... - clarkjohnsen 07:42:50 08/30/06 (0)

Re: That Explains It! - Soundmind 07:08:30 08/30/06 (31)

What It REALLY Explains! - thetubeguy1954 07:52:18 08/30/06 (30)

Re: What It REALLY Explains! - Soundmind 08:12:51 08/30/06 (29)

Re: What It REALLY Explains! - thetubeguy1954 10:39:39 08/30/06 (28)

SM is the guy on top - E-Stat 11:19:49 08/30/06 (26)

Then E-Stat you must be the monkey in the middle - Soundmind 11:34:33 08/30/06 (25)

You're right! - E-Stat 12:23:23 08/30/06 (3)

Re: You're right! - Soundmind 12:50:02 08/30/06 (2)

Ironically, it sounds like - E-Stat 13:37:13 08/30/06 (1)

Re: Ironically, it sounds like - Soundmind 14:10:32 08/30/06 (0)

Re: Then E-Stat you must be the monkey in the middle - thetubeguy1954 12:09:30 08/30/06 (20)

tubeguy, you can insult me all you like but it doesn't change the facts, the truth you refuese to believe - Soundmind 13:09:25 08/30/06 (19)

Re: Wrong, Flat wrong. - theaudiohobby 23:41:09 09/01/06 (0)

Soundmind It's YOU Who Refuses To Believe The Facts & The Truth -- NOT Me! - thetubeguy1954 08:11:01 08/31/06 (9)

And a very angry old man as well. nt - clarkjohnsen 08:02:40 09/01/06 (0)

Bear in mind that your antagonist is a proven liar. nt - clarkjohnsen 12:54:07 08/31/06 (1)

You'll need two of these for stereo Clark - Soundmind 14:39:33 08/31/06 (0)

tubeguy, you don't know what you are saying - Soundmind 09:52:54 08/31/06 (5)

Soundmind YOU don't know what YOU'RE saying.... - thetubeguy1954 12:54:20 09/01/06 (1)

Translation - E-Stat 19:18:47 09/05/06 (0)

Re: tubeguy, you don't know what you are saying - john curl 22:44:23 08/31/06 (2)

At least Click and Clack, aka the Maggliozzi brothers - E-Stat 11:20:27 09/01/06 (0)

I'll put my sound system up against yours any day - Soundmind 03:39:05 09/01/06 (0)

Yet... - E-Stat 13:57:11 08/30/06 (6)

Re: Yet... - john curl 23:34:52 08/31/06 (5)

And yet ..... - clifff 01:46:32 09/01/06 (4)

Expectations go both ways... - E-Stat 08:23:20 09/01/06 (1)

Re: Expectations go both ways... - john curl 08:42:19 09/01/06 (0)

Re: And yet ..... - john curl 07:12:53 09/01/06 (1)

I wasn't asking YOU anything. - clifff 07:43:51 09/01/06 (0)

And here's the rub - kerr 13:41:50 08/30/06 (0)

Re: What It REALLY Explains! - Soundmind 10:52:37 08/30/06 (1)

I find myself far more in agreement with RBNG - E-Stat 15:05:30 08/29/06 (1)

Re: I find myself far more in agreement with RBNG - john curl 15:13:38 08/29/06 (0)

Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - john curl 13:35:02 08/28/06 (16)

Believe ... but verify - Richard BassNut Greene 07:53:16 08/29/06 (0)

Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - Steve Eddy 14:30:04 08/28/06 (14)

Not the Buddhists - Bertie_Livingston 16:13:33 08/28/06 (1)

Re: Not the Buddhists - Steve Eddy 09:42:17 08/29/06 (0)

Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - john curl 16:07:32 08/28/06 (11)

Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - Steve Eddy 16:29:46 08/28/06 (10)

Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - thetubeguy1954 06:32:36 08/29/06 (3)

Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - Steve Eddy 09:39:48 08/29/06 (2)

Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - thetubeguy1954 10:40:08 08/29/06 (1)

Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - Steve Eddy 11:21:51 08/29/06 (0)

Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - john curl 16:50:58 08/28/06 (5)

Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - Steve Eddy 20:50:30 08/28/06 (4)

Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - john curl 21:28:40 08/28/06 (3)

Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - Steve Eddy 23:00:32 08/28/06 (2)

Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - john curl 23:10:02 08/28/06 (1)

Re: Objectivists base statements on objective data -- beliefs are for losers - Steve Eddy 23:49:19 08/28/06 (0)