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The difference between SACD and really great redbook

just isn't that great.... IMO...

Seems like all of the SACD players purposely make their Redbook section suck so that you hear a bigger difference with SACD. Once you get up into the SACD/Universal machines with excellent transports, - like the high dollar Esoteric, the Ayre, the APL, Audio Aero, and Meitner: you hear less of a difference between the SACD layer and the CD layer. It just goes to show how important the transport is in detail retrieval, natural, organic, musicality, and soundstaging ability. With the Meitner, my APL, Audio Aero, and Esoteric, - SACD sound becomes the after thought that it should be, given the lack of discs available.

What to do? Buy a nice $3K retail SACD machine used, and pick up a nice DAC like the Stello, Audio Note, or Benchmark...Putting a Stello DAC along with the Marantz SA11, improves the crappy redbook on that player enormously...

Of course, this is somewhat speculative and subjective on my part, but i believe it to be true, and IMO, the Esoteric, Meitner, Ayre, and APL show that there is a lot of potential with regular old redbook...

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