i'm a recent "convert" to mch sacd. i recall a few years ago reading a statement by john atkinson to the effect that mch was the future. i considered myself a hardcore 2-ch guy and it really pissed me off. well, here we are, listening to amazing dsd mch recordings. anyway, the problem, of course, is putting together a proper playback system. my budget mch sys actually sounds ok, but doesn't go loud ... i follow the five (or six, or seven) identical speakers on the same stands (working towards that ...), but the real headache is obviously amplification (let's not even talk about players here). anyway -- everything (except megabuck separates i suppose) is designed for home theater. those hideous bigass receivers do not produce the right quality of sound. plus, 70% of the circuitry doesn't even come onto play in sacd playback. any secret solutions to this? does anybody feed their five sacd channels into a b&k 5-channel amp w/ level controls, for example? would that work, or is a multichannel preamp required (getting pricey ...) for some reason? i have to face the fact i don't have thousands in the till for this, already have spent way too much on stereo rig. for the record, i don't even have a tv ... don't really want a huge ugly receiver either. thanks, artiepresent mch system: little onkyo digital 6.1 receiver, 5 mission speakers, rel strata, various cheapo sony and phillips sacd players. thinking about 5 epos els, 5 nsm 5s, arcam rcvr, etc.
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Topic - hi-rez hardware ... - fidelio 01:07:21 05/09/06 (100)
- What about using powered speakers? - orpheus 19:33:52 05/09/06 (4)
- Re: What about using powered speakers? - Dave Billinge 23:00:59 05/09/06 (2)
- I think running long balanced interconnects it much better than long speaker cables. - orpheus 08:07:05 05/10/06 (1)
- Re: I think running long balanced interconnects it much better than long speaker cables. - Dave Billinge 15:00:37 05/10/06 (0)
- I've been using this approach for some time now.......Re: What about using powered speakers? - pann 22:40:29 05/09/06 (0)
- Same Problem Here - Robertc88 18:51:32 05/09/06 (0)
- Buy used - Pacman 15:58:21 05/09/06 (0)
- I feel for you ... - Christine Tham 15:35:59 05/09/06 (0)
- Re: hi-rez hardware ... - gkargreen 12:43:52 05/09/06 (0)
- Re: hi-rez hardware ... - Kal Rubinson 11:37:44 05/09/06 (0)
- The difference between SACD and really great redbook - Sordidman 11:09:06 05/09/06 (88)
- Do others think the SA 11 RBCD is that bad/ (nt) - mcondo 15:07:02 05/12/06 (0)
- Re: The difference between SACD and really great redbook - Mike Currie 13:57:42 05/10/06 (11)
- Re: The difference between SACD and really great redbook - gsbotanico 13:33:02 05/13/06 (0)
- What Vinyl of LSC did you compare: The original Shaded Dogs? The Classic Records re-issues? - Teresa 15:52:12 05/10/06 (1)
- Re: What Vinyl of LSC did you compare: The original Shaded Dogs? The Classic Records re-issues? - Mike Currie 05:33:28 05/11/06 (0)
- My ears, my tastes, my opinions tell me - Sordidman 15:29:26 05/10/06 (4)
- Regarding Jazz At The Pawnshop... - Chris Garrett 13:03:21 05/11/06 (0)
- Re: My ears, my tastes, my opinions tell me - Mike Currie 06:01:36 05/11/06 (1)
- Yeah, I would.......... - Sordidman 10:56:16 05/11/06 (0)
- Re: My ears, my tastes, my opinions tell me - Ted Smith 16:38:27 05/10/06 (0)
- And I'd Be Willing To Bet - Robertc88 14:18:10 05/10/06 (2)
- RCA Living Stereo: give me two-channel or give me death! - bublitchki 00:42:28 05/11/06 (1)
- 3 Channel Versus 2 - Robertc88 03:56:17 05/11/06 (0)
- I would agree... - Audio Pharaoh 05:15:15 05/10/06 (0)
- Re: The difference between SACD and really great redbook - bublitchki 18:54:58 05/09/06 (0)
- I also disagree somewhat ... - Christine Tham 15:23:49 05/09/06 (20)
- Well... the issue is more complex with PCM - Sordidman 10:45:11 05/10/06 (8)
- I suspect we are now talking about subjective perception ... - Christine Tham 15:50:35 05/10/06 (7)
- Re: I suspect we are now talking about subjective perception ... - Sordidman 16:12:42 05/10/06 (6)
- Thanks for your gracious reply - Christine Tham 17:32:11 05/10/06 (3)
- Of course... - Sordidman 20:06:31 05/10/06 (2)
- Re: Of course... - Christine Tham 23:12:04 05/10/06 (1)
- Grail? We've already got one!! - Sordidman 11:15:48 05/11/06 (0)
- A story - Ted Smith 16:27:55 05/10/06 (1)
- Well, - I am a huge Espresso fan: the heart of an Italian, nice story -t - Sordidman 16:30:14 05/10/06 (0)
- Christine CDs were unlistenable for me a over decade before anyone ever even heard of SACD. - Teresa 01:04:16 05/10/06 (10)
- Teresa, - that is horsepucky... - Sordidman 10:54:31 05/10/06 (9)
- Re: Teresa, - that is horsepucky...(Wait-a-minute) - Yiangos 07:06:27 05/11/06 (2)
- If you are referring to Reference Recordings HDCDs I agree and here is why - Teresa 04:37:11 05/13/06 (0)
- Re: Teresa, - that is horsepucky...(Wait-a-minute) - Sordidman 11:33:13 05/11/06 (0)
- So if a 24 Bit 48kHz DVD-Audio or a SACD from a 24 Bit 48kHz PCM master sound BAD, how can a 16 Bit 44.1kHz sound good? - Teresa 16:08:15 05/10/06 (5)
- Re: So if a 24 Bit 48kHz DVD-Audio or a SACD from a 24 Bit 48kHz PCM master sound BAD, how can a 16 Bit 44.1kHz sound go - Plushy 15:45:35 05/17/06 (1)
- "an LP, a cassette" ARE NOT 12 Bit mediums, they have NO BITS they are not Digital! - Teresa 17:58:03 05/17/06 (0)
- Re: So if a 24 Bit 48kHz DVD-Audio or a SACD from a 24 Bit 48kHz PCM master sound BAD, how can a 16 Bit 44.1kHz sound go - bublitchki 11:25:18 05/11/06 (1)
- The Xindak upsamples Redbook to 96kHz and I did try it, smoother but with less realism than either SACD or LP. - Teresa 17:12:32 05/11/06 (0)
- Just like anything else.... a listening test... - Sordidman 16:28:30 05/10/06 (0)
- Re: The difference between SACD and CD - Retsel 15:09:11 05/09/06 (0)
- I disagree - racerguy 13:37:45 05/09/06 (1)
- I guess I didn't pass close enough attention then.... - Sordidman 14:10:20 05/09/06 (0)
- There's that silly comparison again... - String Section 11:50:11 05/09/06 (30)
- That's the rub.... - Sordidman 12:12:36 05/09/06 (29)
- No music on SACD? - Ted Smith 12:23:27 05/09/06 (28)
- A few Peter Gabriel titles - Sordidman 13:03:39 05/09/06 (27)
- Ah Ha, that is how you can listen to CD! Rock music usually doesn't have massed strings. - Teresa 01:13:04 05/10/06 (26)
- As I mentioned, - Jazz at the Pawnshop - Sordidman 10:12:34 05/10/06 (1)
- Re: As I mentioned, - Jazz at the Pawnshop - Bruce from DC 10:57:31 05/10/06 (0)
- Anyone who can claim that Peter Gabriel recordings are - joyzmantoyz 08:52:08 05/10/06 (0)
- "his music is very low fidelity" - Metralla 06:09:32 05/10/06 (22)
- Peter Gabriel's So (LP, SACD) Shaking The Tree: 16 Golden Greats (CD, SACD) - Teresa 16:25:08 05/10/06 (21)
- I still disagree... - joyzmantoyz 05:44:08 05/11/06 (20)
- No bass management problems I have full sized speakers with 12 inch woofers powered by 325 watts per channel. - Teresa 10:53:46 05/11/06 (19)
- "Don't Give Up" - with Kate Bush - Metralla 11:44:47 05/11/06 (18)
- What I would like to know is... - joyzmantoyz 13:00:36 05/11/06 (17)
- Actually here are some Rock albums that have good fidelity: - Teresa 17:27:12 05/11/06 (16)
- 2 more good sounding rock albums: Ten Years After: A Space In Time & Kinks: Muswell Hillbilly (nt) - Teresa 14:16:53 05/13/06 (0)
- Teresa's List... - joyzmantoyz 06:22:24 05/12/06 (12)
- You've both listed some good music, and you've both listed some well- and marginally well recorded albums... - Waldteufel 06:12:58 05/19/06 (0)
- Don't Give Up On Classical Music - Robertc88 03:46:30 05/13/06 (0)
- You asked me "What rock albums I think sound good", I answered, you attack my taste! - Teresa 15:21:16 05/12/06 (2)
- Judging by your comments here... - joyzmantoyz 07:33:45 05/13/06 (1)
- If anyone is an idiot it is you! You asked me a question, I answered honestly, you attacked - Teresa 14:10:08 05/13/06 (0)
- What a terrific post, mate - Metralla 08:43:13 05/12/06 (6)
- Metralla I am out of my element in Rock, but joyzmantoyz asked me what I Rock albums "I thought" sounded good. - Teresa 15:31:00 05/12/06 (0)
- Re: What a terrific post, mate - jharris 10:02:56 05/12/06 (4)
- Gald you all liked the post. - joyzmantoyz 10:29:11 05/12/06 (3)
- Re: Gald you all liked the post. - jharris 12:03:18 05/12/06 (0)
- Re: Gald you all liked the post. - jharris 11:14:04 05/12/06 (1)
- Actually I have the Nightfly on DVD-A - joyzmantoyz 11:37:57 05/12/06 (0)
- The Sheffield Track Album and The Sheffield Drum Album - what wonderful rock music (nt) - Metralla 17:31:48 05/11/06 (1)
- I gave 15 examples of good sound, why did you gravitate to those two? - Teresa 17:40:14 05/11/06 (0)
- I disagree somewhat - Ted Smith 11:21:24 05/09/06 (17)
- I see your point..... - Sordidman 12:18:01 05/09/06 (10)
- Most of the music I buy these days is MC - Ted Smith 12:27:22 05/09/06 (9)
- Re: Most of the music I buy these days is MC - Sordidman 13:10:48 05/09/06 (8)
- Re: Most of the music I buy these days is MC - Robert C. Lang 01:13:49 05/10/06 (7)
- Please don't misunderstand me.... - Sordidman 10:33:56 05/10/06 (6)
- Re: Ditto...Please don't misunderstand me.... - Robert C. Lang 14:30:14 05/10/06 (3)
- WOW!! Robert, that was a very, very, good point... - Sordidman 15:05:31 05/10/06 (2)
- Multichannel - Robertc88 03:37:19 05/12/06 (0)
- Thank you - Robert C. Lang 17:45:54 05/10/06 (0)
- Re: Please don't misunderstand me.... - Ted Smith 14:13:40 05/10/06 (1)
- I'll Add My Two Cents - Robertc88 03:45:18 05/12/06 (0)
- Of course you meant Esoteric other than.... - Jim Pearce 11:59:47 05/09/06 (5)
- You know, I just don't remember... - Ted Smith 12:03:18 05/09/06 (4)
- Re: You know, I just don't remember... - Jim Pearce 12:12:39 05/09/06 (3)
- I heard the 5 box unit, that's what I was talking about. - Ted Smith 12:18:43 05/09/06 (2)
- I'm really not sure, Ted. - Jim Pearce 12:37:13 05/09/06 (1)
- Re: I'm really not sure, Ted. - Ted Smith 12:42:17 05/09/06 (0)
- Re: hi-rez hardware ... - theaudiohiffle 08:17:13 05/09/06 (0)