Re: Of all the supergroups of the 60s/70s why have The Doors continued

halfnote said:
I agree with you completely about the Doors musical prowess and virtuosity. Why don't they enjoy the same reverence as the Beatles, Stones, Zep, and others? One reason is longevity. Morrison checked out before they really cemented their status in rocks upper firmament.

I disagree on both counts (LOL). First, Longevity has nothing to do with it. Hendrix recorded for what... 3 years? He's considered (quite rightly) the Rock guitar icon by most. If anything, Morrison's status in the Rock firmament might have been lessened if he'd lived another decade or 2 (we'll never know of course, but he was NEVER a musician).

Second, although I'm with the crowd that DOESN'T revere the Doors (compared to those other bands)... the Doors certainly DID GET equal reverence by a HUGE number of bands, musicians, & listeners in the 80's (& even today, to a slightly lesser extent). Much of the 80's Goth & moody Brit pop bands heralded the Doors as their God, certainly a major love & influence. And maybe that's why I disliked 95% of them... everything from New Order, to the Gang of 4, to the Cure, to Marilyn Manson. Whether they "sounded" like them, I don't know, I never found the music interesting enough to listen, but there was a TON of reverence for the Doors & their "ethos", whatever TF that was.

Personally, I never was a huge fan. They were a good 60's era pop band. But so were a LOT of others too. They were more competent than most, but hardly in any "jazz" way, unless you think The Grateful Dead noodling for an hour is great soul-wretching improvisational stuff... LOL.

I'm also no expert on the Doors, even though I was there when every single they had was released. I agree with PdL...my limited background tells me that Morrison WAS a poet... THAT'S how he saw himself artistically. He got into the music thing mostly by accident, and found "hey, this could make me & my work popular"... something that would appeal to just about any artist's ego, certainly a poet, since poetry has not been a cool & culturally "hip" thing, except for maybe ancient Greece & 19'th century Europe. LOL! So no, he wasn't so much interested in the music side of things... which is fine. Hey, it's only R&R!

Jay, I don't know if Morrison "held back" the band musically. I think he was pretty much outside the musical development thing... it's hard to see him wrecking that any more than the coach can hit or pitch in a game for his team... he's at the mercy of the guys on the field. But I haven't read the books or seen the movies, so i don't know the dynamic (so understand I could be totally wrong... LOL.)

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Topic - Of all the supergroups of the 60s/70s why have The Doors continued - tinear 18:56:30 03/03/06 (36)

I like the Doors but ... - OvenBun 13:46:58 03/05/06 (4)

Re: I like the Doors but ... - Todd Krieger 21:48:43 03/05/06 (3)

Exactly! And talent has become undemocratic. - SalD 22:46:42 03/06/06 (2)

Re: Exactly! And talent has become undemocratic. - Todd Krieger 23:21:11 03/06/06 (1)

Re: Yeah, well... - J 13:10:29 03/08/06 (0)

What the fuck? What part of great songs do some here not understand? - tinear 16:02:56 03/04/06 (11)

Hey, I'm with you on this! The Doors Rule! - Raiderman 16:02:25 03/06/06 (0)

I did and still really like The Doors music. Contrary - audiogatorjim 04:27:53 03/05/06 (8)

You cannot petition the Lord..... with PRAYER! (a poet? read on) - tinear 05:05:07 03/05/06 (3)

how old are you 12?, I can't believe you fall for JM schtick,--NT-- - elblanco 11:38:14 03/06/06 (0)

I always liked that line. - PdL 13:41:06 03/05/06 (0)

For me, that was his (their) best work. (nt) - reelsmith. 07:49:40 03/05/06 (0)

Re: I did and still really like The Doors music. Contrary - Mick Jones 04:48:06 03/05/06 (3)

Yes, film classes but I'm no Morrison expert and have - audiogatorjim 07:52:23 03/05/06 (2)

Well, go to Pere Lachaise to see Chopin, Wilde, Hugo, and many other - tinear 14:04:48 03/05/06 (1)

I tell my wife now's not the time to vacation abroad. - audiogatorjim 16:16:49 03/05/06 (0)

"Morrison is the best vocalist rock produced. " - PdL 17:24:32 03/04/06 (0)

Debut rated #21 of all time - Slider 15:11:16 03/04/06 (0)

One Doors opens as another closes - dave c 14:43:53 03/04/06 (0)

I've visited his grave once myself and I reject your premise... - tunenut 12:44:44 03/04/06 (0)

Because their tunes are marginal. - PdL 21:50:59 03/03/06 (6)

Re: Because their tunes are marginal. - J 08:02:02 03/04/06 (5)

They didn't boot him because he WAS the Doors. Duh? (nt) - SalD 23:37:04 03/06/06 (1)

Re: - J 20:47:49 03/07/06 (0)

I'm glad you posted that - David R. in WV 18:17:13 03/04/06 (1)

Music Murdered by Digitization.... - Todd Krieger 22:51:22 03/04/06 (0)

Re: Because their tunes are marginal. - PdL 10:35:43 03/04/06 (0)

Re: If Jim Morrison hadn't died, we'd all be saying "Who are the Doors?" - grinagog 21:08:57 03/03/06 (1)

You are joking aren't you? - Audiophilander 00:07:55 03/04/06 (0)

Re: Because... - J 20:54:38 03/03/06 (1)

Who sounds like the Doors? - OvenBun 08:59:05 03/04/06 (0)

Re: Of all the supergroups of the 60s/70s why have The Doors continued - hairydog 20:30:13 03/03/06 (0)

Re: Of all the supergroups of the 60s/70s why have The Doors continued - halfnote 19:20:04 03/03/06 (3)

Re: Of all the supergroups of the 60s/70s why have The Doors continued - jack70 13:49:28 03/04/06 (0)

Just Ahead of Their Time - Fishstink 06:28:43 03/04/06 (1)

Re: Just Ahead of Their Time - FRG7SWL 07:23:27 03/04/06 (0)

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