In Reply to: where's the science? posted by Analog Scott on April 3, 2007 at 09:27:44:
Until academe approves, which it won't until the imbedded resistance to any new idea has died off -- literally.Remember what Lord Kelvin (he of the Royal Society) said: X-rays are a hoax!
Remember the concerted resistance to "continental drift".
Remember the early fate of anaesthesia.
Resistance was not overcome by investigation, because academe doesn't care to have its precious theories challenged. Resistance was overcome by a gathering body of evidence from those goddam independent outsiders.
And so it must be in audio. Look not to the JAES for articles on advances in sound.
clark
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Follow Ups
- "...until science has investigated the phenomenon." Translation: - clarkjohnsen 12:09:31 04/03/07 (34)
- Clark, your observations echo the work of Thomas S. Kuhn... - David W. Robinson 11:51:47 04/05/07 (1)
- Yeah, thanks. Regrettably that book is nearly impenetrable, so I prefer to wing it. nt - clarkjohnsen 11:21:10 04/06/07 (0)
- What group of people would you lable the "academe" in high end audio? - jensw 16:18:11 04/03/07 (25)
- Audio academe is embodied by the AES. Have you read their Journal lately? If so... - clarkjohnsen 08:36:58 04/04/07 (23)
- Re: Audio academe is embodied by the AES. Have you read their Journal lately? If so... - May Belt 14:33:02 04/04/07 (22)
- an establishment that persists in frenetically sweeping legitimate genres of new phenomena under its intellectual carpet - Richard BassNut Greene 17:10:06 04/08/07 (0)
- "If you can apply a chemical to the label side of a CD,..." - BS64 12:06:03 04/06/07 (7)
- Re: "If you can apply a chemical to the label side of a CD,..." - May Belt 03:44:19 04/07/07 (6)
- read your statement carefully - BS64 04:13:28 04/07/07 (5)
- Re: read your statement carefully - May Belt 10:52:10 04/07/07 (4)
- "Please give people credit for having the intelligence to know whether they heard just a 'difference' " - Richard BassNut Greene 17:59:13 04/08/07 (0)
- "if you manufacture audio equipment you HAVE to investigate" - BS64 12:35:47 04/08/07 (2)
- Re: "if you manufacture audio equipment you HAVE to investigate" - Posy Rorer 17:53:33 04/15/07 (1)
- "Unless of course it has a barcode on the bottle" - BS64 10:56:14 04/16/07 (0)
- Re: Audio academe is embodied by the AES. Have you read their Journal lately? If so... - Posy Rorer 19:08:22 04/04/07 (10)
- Thus a simple religous experience and belief system. - clifff 01:13:36 04/05/07 (9)
- I agree. Audio DBTs ARE a simple religous experience and belief system. No point in debating them. (nt) - Posy Rorer 16:19:21 04/08/07 (7)
- Yeah SURE ..... "I know what I hear and couldn't be wrong" is pure objectivity !!!!!! - Richard BassNut Greene 18:14:15 04/08/07 (6)
- Richard Bassnuts: did someone forget to change your diapers? - Posy Rorer 21:54:49 04/08/07 (5)
- Your post contains only character attacks -- no audio content (nt) - Richard BassNut Greene 22:09:46 04/08/07 (4)
- Whereas your posts contain unprovoked defamatory character attacks- Sorry, you only get what you deserve, troll. - Posy Rorer 23:34:12 04/08/07 (3)
- "...the worst I have ever seen on AA." Don't get around much any more, eh? nt - clarkjohnsen 11:58:56 04/09/07 (1)
- I never did get around much on AA. So Bassnuts may not be the worst offender here, but it's not for lack of effort. (nt) - Posy Rorer 15:23:12 04/09/07 (0)
- What a poser! nt - clifff 23:44:17 04/08/07 (0)
- I could try... - Wellfed 17:58:55 04/05/07 (0)
- Re: Audio academe is embodied by the AES. Have you read their Journal lately? If so... - john curl 16:07:20 04/04/07 (1)
- Re: I know what you mean, John - geoffkait 16:48:19 04/04/07 (0)
- Re: What group of people would you lable the "academe" in high end audio? - john curl 17:07:56 04/03/07 (0)
- Your translation is inbedded in the age old debate and has nothing to do with what I am saying - Analog Scott 12:54:51 04/03/07 (5)
- "The very essence of science is to challenge the status quo." Funniest line I've read in weeks! - clarkjohnsen 10:18:11 04/04/07 (1)
- "Audio affords us an excellent paradigm of this process.?" Indeed you are far too entrnched - Analog Scott 10:44:55 04/05/07 (0)
- Re: Your translation is inbedded in the age old debate and has nothing to do with what I am saying - john curl 17:09:28 04/03/07 (2)
- I wouldn't know that about the JAES... - Analog Scott 17:32:18 04/03/07 (1)
- Re: I wouldn't know that about the JAES... - john curl 20:43:18 04/03/07 (0)