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In Reply to: Re: it is useless to "demand" co-horts, Jon posted by john curl on May 6, 2004 at 11:19:52:
JC: ""Jneutron, this reliance to 'higher authority' without our being able to challenge the statements of your 'authorities' is like appealing to the Pope!""Absolutely correct..if I get a pearl of wisdom regarding e/m theory, or DA, or whatever, and pass it on to the posters here, then I certainly will either provide the derivation or the source location from which it was drawn.. I certainly do not expect anyone to believe an off line "expert" on my word alone, but will provide a lot of meat to support my statements.
My statement about me trusting my "higher authority" refers to MY OWN PERSONAL willingness to accept what it is they have said, as they have never steered me wrong historically. And that statement referred to work related stuff, not forum stuff. As to being coerced into accepting one or another's opinion, as Jon is attempting to do in this case of me, I will not provide one..If I were more cognizant of the issue, I would of course respond..
Should I get a "pearl" of wisdom from one of my co-workers to use as a rebuttal, then I would expect everyone to treat it as an unknown source, as you have basically stated here...especially if I use it to refute another's opinion..
JC: ""Just because they get your 'biased' input about us in your lunch hour, and they make witty rebuttals, doesn't make it scientifically accurate or proper."".
My "biased input" during lunch has been, in the case of JR, direct printouts of his website information, for Dr. Hawksford, a direct copy of his essex echo article on skin effect, for wire vendors, their website info, or in both yours and Jon's cases, a printout of exactly what it is you have posted here. Not the flame war stuff, mind you. Just some of the "weirder", off the wall technical explanations..And for all of the "culprits, only the stuff for which the author is way off the deep end..
In all cases, the usual "culprits" have provided some very good advice in areas they are experts in..and it would be silly of me to present that as humor...for use in our work area, we do low noise stuff, dsp stuff, things you, Hawksford, and yes, even Risch, could be considered as an outside resource upon which I would draw. Many of the stuff we do here requires outside consultants, as manpower limitations sometimes makes learning it inside too costly in time and money.
The humurous stuff I refer to in all cases, has needed absolutely no introduction, no biased remarks...nothing. The funny stuff does not need to be embellished upon to be seen for what it is..and that certainly also applies to the sometimes funny (dumb in hindsight) things that we all do in the course of a day at work..(how was I to know that 32 guage wire couldn't handle 5 kiloamps????Duh..
But for the case of debating technical points here, I will not simply bash anyone with "what my friends say". As you correctly state, that would not be very scientifically accurate.
As for witty rebuttals?...I have not yet found a need to ask any of them for one, nor has any discussion I am interested in here risen to the technical level where I would need to ask them for a technical answer.
That does not mean that all the discussions here are beneath me...it just means that the ones here that are above my understanding level, are that way either because I have no real interest in the subject matter, have never dealt with it, or am too friggen stupid to understand it...
Cheers, John
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