In Reply to: Dielectric Absorption posted by Dan Banquer on April 27, 2004 at 08:52:52:
All:I would suggest a quick read of the article below. It CLEARLY shows the effects, at AUDIO bandwidths, of capacitor DA on line level electronics. Perhaps we can actually learn something, rather than simply arguing.......
While I won't claim that the effect is the same for speaker cables, it does demonstrate what DA looks like, and the relationship between dielectric and error voltages. (See Fig. 7 in particular)
BTW, the article was first published in 1982, so it's hardly new. In EDN, no less....
(Egregious editorializing: IMO it also illustrates what a bozo Gene is, but hey, that's just my $0.02. If he is an EE as claimed, he has no excuse for not understanding this. Perhaps he chose not to understand? Noooo, say it isn't so!....)
Peter
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Follow Ups
- Required Reading on DA - Commuteman 10:29:46 05/04/04 (53)
- Re: Required Reading on DA - Steve Eddy 13:32:49 05/04/04 (52)
- Yep - Commuteman 15:02:00 05/04/04 (51)
- Re: Yep - Steve Eddy 18:25:29 05/04/04 (49)
- Wrong Tree, Wrong Forrest, and the AH articles is _still_ about DF, not DA - Jon Risch 20:40:17 05/05/04 (16)
- Re: Wrong Tree, Wrong Forrest, and the AH articles is _still_ about DF, not DA - john curl 15:18:06 05/06/04 (1)
- Re: Wrong Tree, Wrong Forrest, and the AH articles is _still_ about DF, not DA - jneutron 05:46:14 05/07/04 (0)
- it is useless to "demand" co-horts, Jon - jneutron 06:30:32 05/06/04 (9)
- Re: it is useless to "demand" co-horts, Jon - john curl 13:01:45 05/06/04 (4)
- Hmm...JC ? do you have a computer virus?? - jneutron 13:28:40 05/06/04 (3)
- Re: Hmm...JC ? do you have a computer virus?? - john curl 15:05:04 05/06/04 (2)
- Re: it is useless to "demand" co-horts, Jon - john curl 11:19:52 05/06/04 (1)
- Re: it is useless to "demand" co-horts, Jon - jneutron 11:59:31 05/06/04 (0)
- Ahh, John... - Commuteman 09:43:15 05/06/04 (1)
- Re: Ahh, John... - jneutron 10:08:27 05/06/04 (0)
- More red herrings - Steve Eddy 23:21:57 05/05/04 (3)
- Hey Steve - Commuteman 09:37:00 05/06/04 (2)
- Re: Hey Steve - Steve Eddy 12:49:35 05/06/04 (0)
- Re: Hey Steve - john curl 10:42:09 05/06/04 (0)
- I think you're looking in the wrong place - Commuteman 14:40:19 05/05/04 (1)
- Re: I think you're looking in the wrong place - Steve Eddy 19:51:10 05/05/04 (0)
- Re: Yep - jneutron 07:51:10 05/05/04 (29)
- Re: Yep - Steve Eddy 08:36:22 05/05/04 (28)
- Re: Yep - jneutron 09:05:17 05/05/04 (27)
- That's what I was referring to ..see the other post (nt) - Commuteman 14:41:49 05/05/04 (0)
- Re: Yep - Steve Eddy 10:22:12 05/05/04 (25)
- Whoa, Steve? - jneutron 12:25:44 05/06/04 (4)
- Re: Whoa, Steve? - Steve Eddy 13:00:36 05/06/04 (3)
- Re: Whoa, Steve? - jneutron 13:37:55 05/06/04 (2)
- Hmmm... - Commuteman 14:03:05 05/06/04 (1)
- Re: Hmmm... - jneutron 14:19:06 05/06/04 (0)
- Re: Yep - jneutron 11:54:32 05/05/04 (19)
- Re: Yep - Steve Eddy 12:42:21 05/05/04 (18)
- Re: Yep - jneutron 12:58:45 05/05/04 (17)
- Re: Yep - Steve Eddy 14:22:39 05/05/04 (16)
- Remember the point of the thread.... - Commuteman 14:53:51 05/05/04 (15)
- Re: Remember the point of the thread.... - john curl 23:04:55 05/05/04 (10)
- Obviously Jung and Wurcer were just brown-nosing... - Commuteman 09:49:13 05/06/04 (8)
- Re: SY in his own speak (John Curl's wire test) - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 16:11:05 05/11/04 (6)
- Same experience as mine - Commuteman 11:28:18 05/12/04 (5)
- Re: Same experience as mine - jneutron 06:22:30 05/13/04 (4)
- Did you mean.... - Commuteman 10:28:13 05/13/04 (3)
- Re: Did you mean.... - jneutron 12:18:30 05/13/04 (2)
- Re: Did you mean.... - Granholm 14:30:25 05/13/04 (0)
- Right - Commuteman 13:43:49 05/13/04 (0)
- Re: Obviously Jung and Wurcer were just brown-nosing... - john curl 10:52:06 05/06/04 (0)
- Re: Remember the point of the thread.... - Steve Eddy 00:14:05 05/06/04 (0)
- Re: Remember the point of the thread.... - Steve Eddy 19:30:43 05/05/04 (2)
- Re: Remember the point of the thread.... - Dan Banquer 12:35:47 05/06/04 (1)
- Agreed.... - Commuteman 13:27:26 05/06/04 (0)
- Re: Remember the point of the thread.... - john curl 15:59:28 05/05/04 (0)
- Re: Maybe? - Dan Banquer 17:50:22 05/04/04 (0)