Sigfried Linkwitz' Orions get rave reviews. The speaker drivers are individually amp'ed and each amp is fed from an active crossover. The critical midband and highs get 3 or more op amps plus a bunch of "just okay" capacitors, bunches of caps and resistors and op amps in the signal path, then goes on to a ho-hum SS amplifier from a HT multichannel amp. And the source of choice for Sigfried - an ordinary CD player.When I have used such components in my system I have a flat lifeless and dimensionless sound, especially depthless imaging. Yet everyone that listens to Orions say it is not that.
The only way I can check them out myself is to pay $400 for an audition (and weekend stay) at his vacation home.
Is there anyone who can offer what is really going on with this system and why this set of electronics yields such supposedly terrific results? I can't figure it out. Is the speaker's "radical design" overcoming the electronics and source limitations in a big way?
What got me started was the question about the Plutos in the thread below.
Kurt
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Topic - Nagging question about op amps in active crossovers - kurt s 10:07:20 01/24/07 (43)
- Re: Nagging question about op amps in active crossovers - gurevise 08:59:20 01/25/07 (4)
- Re: Nagging question about op amps in active crossovers - Dean L. 14:04:17 01/26/07 (0)
- Can you describe in more detail what you thought was wrong with their sound? nt - kurt s 09:20:07 01/25/07 (2)
- Re: Can you describe in more detail what you thought was wrong with their sound? nt - gurevise 10:03:55 01/25/07 (1)
- Thanks! nt - kurt s 10:33:56 01/25/07 (0)
- IMHO opamps are sonic grunge! - grhughes 04:31:31 01/25/07 (5)
- My kids aren't even allowed to say OP-AMP.. - JANDG 19:49:36 01/26/07 (4)
- They should be banished from audio! - grhughes 07:56:54 01/27/07 (3)
- Re: They should be banished from audio! - Eli Duttman 16:11:31 01/27/07 (2)
- Eli: Why are we holding on to this old idea.... - grhughes 08:57:09 01/28/07 (1)
- Re: Eli: Why are we holding on to this old idea.... - Eli Duttman 11:04:26 01/28/07 (0)
- If his speakers REALLY sound good with all those &^%$#@! opamps... - Allen Wright 03:30:58 01/25/07 (1)
- YES, no op-amp for me please. - cheap-Jack 07:10:56 01/26/07 (0)
- check out John Kreskovsky's "hybrid philosophy" - pedroskova 01:56:57 01/25/07 (1)
- Another innovative design. This one does cone dipoles with one amp. Cool! nt - kurt s 09:11:08 01/25/07 (0)
- Re: Nagging question about op amps in active crossovers - SLM 23:10:09 01/24/07 (0)
- Re: Nagging question about op amps in active crossovers - Dean L. 17:56:16 01/24/07 (0)
- if anything else, why is this even in "Tube DIY"? :) (nt) - jarthel 15:58:48 01/24/07 (1)
- Because we in the "Tube DIY" always have a concern about doing things the hard way. - -3db 19:45:12 01/24/07 (0)
- Re: Nagging question about op amps in active crossovers - KevinC 14:30:54 01/24/07 (4)
- More to add - kurt s 15:27:25 01/24/07 (0)
- Do you think it is possible - Russ57 14:56:01 01/24/07 (1)
- I second this Russ because a widerange Fostex 103+ribbon tweet + sub: Magic is! - -3db 19:47:18 01/24/07 (0)
- Thanks for your informative input. Much appreciated. nt - kurt s 14:36:58 01/24/07 (0)
- Sadly, you're not alone. - cheap-Jack 13:09:34 01/24/07 (0)
- Re: everyone uses the same language - Ralph 13:03:36 01/24/07 (0)
- Re: Nagging question about op amps in active crossovers - Chris O 12:34:24 01/24/07 (9)
- Re: Nagging question about op amps in active crossovers - fatbottle 13:55:00 01/24/07 (0)
- Get a better amp then. - cheap-Jack 13:36:03 01/24/07 (7)
- Re: music first or electronics first? - danlaudionut 14:54:18 01/24/07 (6)
- A variable not available when using active crossovers - Russ57 15:10:23 01/24/07 (5)
- Re: A variable not available when using active crossovers - fatbottle 23:30:59 01/24/07 (4)
- decent measuring mic - Russ57 04:30:04 01/25/07 (3)
- Re: decent measuring mic - fatbottle 05:02:27 01/25/07 (2)
- You need more than a "decent measuring mic". - cheap-Jack 08:54:16 01/25/07 (1)
- Re: You need more than a "decent measuring mic". - fatbottle 09:12:34 01/25/07 (0)
- I have just started going down this path - Russ57 12:13:16 01/24/07 (5)
- The old can of wrigglers again - 01A 13:47:22 01/24/07 (1)
- Re: The old can of wrigglers again - kurt s 13:55:42 01/24/07 (0)
- Me too... - danlaudionut 13:27:32 01/24/07 (0)
- I have been going down this path, except not with dipole speakers - kurt s 12:49:12 01/24/07 (1)
- If you have the Oris... - Russ57 14:39:46 01/24/07 (0)
- Sigrfried Linkwitz - richardl 11:06:52 01/24/07 (0)