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Re: Harman Kardon has done an interesting paper on subwoofer no. and positioning

Good luck in finding your optimum cross over point. I haven't been able to find one to my satisfaction. And you do realise that the response changes dramatically depending on listening position, don't you? And we're not talking about dramatically different positions - the response changes significantly just by you moving your head or body around, so unless you listen with your head in a clamp, what is "optimal" for one position quickly becomes "non-optimal".

*** I don't have a xenophobic fear of processing. ***

Really John, stop being so patronising. Just because someone has (arguably) higher standards of fidelity than yourself doesn't mean they suddenly have a "xenophobic fear of processing" or are "obsessing about every last detail". In your posts, you are clearly demonstrating that you are as obsessed about the finer points as anyone else on this forum, so stop calling the kettle black.

As for me, I do have a little studio experience, and I can tell you what every engineer knows - every processing step, analog or digital, degrades the sound - quite audibly too in many cases. I can hear the degradation done by sample rate conversion, applying eq, or effects processing. On my mixer, I can even hear a difference (on headphones) between monitoring a solo track and the main mix output. Even applying reverb will degrade the clarity of the dry sound. It's no surprise engineers obsess about various reverb algorithms, and I can tell you the ones built into Nuendo/Cubase, Samplitude/Sequoia, Sonar, Wavelab, Sound Forge, etc. all sound pretty crappy to me.

It's easy to argue: "but the music is all processed anyway, so adding a few extra processings steps won't hurt." But it's all cumulative - no matter how "damaged" the source, adding another processing step makes it worse. A typical rookie mistake in the studio is to enable as much processing as possible - the end result is painful. A good engineer will balance between the pros and cons of each step, and be happy to forego a step if necessary, or use a workaround. I've seen examples where reverb is achieved by playing back a recording into a hall (or even staircase!) and recording the "wet" sound and mixing it back in.


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