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In Reply to: RE: Kudos to Kamala Harris posted by jedrider on November 06, 2024 at 09:29:48
And I really think that "anti-establishment" is what voters wanted this time around.What is it that constitutes the current version of "The Establishment" ?
Well, I think that voters were tired of "The Swamp" that needed to be drained, tired of superficial manners or "PC behavior", tired of "New Agey" substitutions for traditional beliefs, and other things along these lines...
Trump may like to clown around, but he also stands for "old timey values" somehow. He represents the opposite of beliefs and practices upheld by the modern establishment.
Big selling point !
And we know that cracking the occasional joke about "grabbing women's pussies" is completely forgivable. Women know that most men talk like that from time to time. Even religious women know that much.
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. . . that she was farting much more than usual on "The View" today!
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Can't knock it because I haven't tried it. But I really don't think I wanna try it.
who said they might leave the country if such should happen.
Pack 'yer bags!
Among talking heads it's been all Trump all the time.
"Horse sense is the thing a horse has which keeps it from betting on people. "
― W.C. Fields
Explores the rise of antidemocratic extremism in America. Gives up close detail about Christian nationalists, militia & gun rights groups, far right media organizations, and MAGA supporters. It's heartland Americans that elected Trump, not the coastal elites or educated classes.
Democracy? Depends on a well informed electorate.
Or perhaps a less academically indoctrinated and/or media indoctrinated electorate? I agree with you that the "educated classes" (mostly the indoctrinated classes) did not elect Trump. How do you feel about the MSM-amped reports that Trump is going to send Liz Cheney to be executed by a firing squad? Is that part of the curriculum of the "educated classes"?
Neither the yuppies nor the great unwashed peons (GUPPIES) who are in the driver's seat.
"Horse sense is the thing a horse has which keeps it from betting on people. "
― W.C. Fields
It isn't. It's a recurring theme in American politics that's as old as the Republic itself.
We've had civil wars besides THE Civil War. Militias have risen and fallen, several times in my own lifetime.
Trump isn't Hitler. More like, he's the US version of Silvio Berlusconi.
And the electorate knows all about Trump. It voted for him anyway.
So it goes.
The blissful counterstroke-a considerable new message.
NBC News host Kristen Welker asked: "She has previously supported Medicare for All, now she does not. She's previously supported a ban on fracking, now she does not. These, Senator, are ideas that you have campaigned on. Do you think that she is abandoning her progressive ideals?"
Sanders: "No, I don't think she's abandoning her ideals. I think she is trying to be pragmatic and do what she thinks is right in order to win the election. "
You have to give the seasoned senator kudos for saying it like it is, especially because Harris has yet to describe her own campaign with such clarity.
-Rod
Yes, and I think the voters could sense that sensation.Do most Americans want "medicare for all" ? Do most Americans want a ban on (all) fracking ?
I don't think so.
MANY Americans might want those things, but those ones are seen as belonging to the current, modern version of "The establishment" (the same one that is perceived as being out of touch with the true thoughts and feelings shared by many Americans). A deadly trait, IMO.
I do think that many Americans wanted to "drain the swamp" though. That "swamp" is (once again) seen as embodying the current version of "The establishment".
And the other thing that most Americans want right now is mo' spendin' money. Trump would seem to promise that too.
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I keep hearing more spending money also, but all I see around here are packed restaurants, loads of expensive new cars and trucks ( the over 60,000 kind) and people in retail stores with two or three carts loaded to the brim
with frivolous items, not necessities. Not to mention near 70 year old 1400
foot houses selling for 500,000 as soon as they are listed.
where you couldn't buy a dilapidated dump for that price, despite the doom loop.
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
...support for fracking is supposed to be the key to winning Pennsylvania but I'll bet that the only Pennsylvanians who support fracking work in the industry. In other words, not very many Pennsylvanians support it.Most of us would be happy if the Marcellus Shale never existed. The industry pushes its weight around like it owned the state, and it's draining watersheds. Even in drought years, like this year, the fracking industry still takes the water. There are other important industries that employ, you know, human type people, they depend on the rivers and lakes, too.
And sometimes, it's not just whitewater rafting that's affected, it's a water supply. Big reservoir in Westmoreland County nearly ran dry last year. Regular customers had to cut back on water use, but not the fracking companies.
The blissful counterstroke-a considerable new message.
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You put Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren at the top of the ticket, it won't matter how popular their ideas are. The public will never get to hear them because billionaire mega-donors don't want Medicare for All and they don't want a ban on fracking. No money, no campaign.
Medicare for All especially has pretty strong bipartisan support among the public. Only in the halls of Congress is it unpopular.
The blissful counterstroke-a considerable new message.
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Plagiarism is the sincerest form of flattery.
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... and looks were very, very important. At least in this presidential race.
Fat, old, orange ...she couldn't pull it off.
Dean.
reelsmith's axiom: Its going to be used equipment when I sell it, so it may as well be used equipment when I buy it.
Can you imagine her cackling during every interaction with foreign dignitaries and enemies of the state ?
How serious would they take her social insecurities, not being able to answer a single question without a teleprompter.
She turned down a 3 hour interview with Joe Rogan because she can't talk off scripted prompter for 3 minutes.
Totally NOT the interface you want to put in front of the US let alone other nations. Well, maybe the red-light district in Amsterdam since that is the only podcast she did.
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