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In Reply to: RE: Kamala Harris did not act "anti-establishment" enough to win... posted by peppy m. on November 06, 2024 at 11:25:15
NBC News host Kristen Welker asked: "She has previously supported Medicare for All, now she does not. She's previously supported a ban on fracking, now she does not. These, Senator, are ideas that you have campaigned on. Do you think that she is abandoning her progressive ideals?"
Sanders: "No, I don't think she's abandoning her ideals. I think she is trying to be pragmatic and do what she thinks is right in order to win the election."
You have to give the seasoned senator kudos for saying it like it is, especially because Harris has yet to describe her own campaign with such clarity.
-Rod
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Yes, and I think the voters could sense that sensation.Do most Americans want "medicare for all" ? Do most Americans want a ban on (all) fracking ?
I don't think so.
MANY Americans might want those things, but those ones are seen as belonging to the current, modern version of "The establishment" (the same one that is perceived as being out of touch with the true thoughts and feelings shared by many Americans). A deadly trait, IMO.
I do think that many Americans wanted to "drain the swamp" though. That "swamp" is (once again) seen as embodying the current version of "The establishment".
And the other thing that most Americans want right now is mo' spendin' money. Trump would seem to promise that too.
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I keep hearing more spending money also, but all I see around here are packed restaurants, loads of expensive new cars and trucks ( the over 60,000 kind) and people in retail stores with two or three carts loaded to the brim
with frivolous items, not necessities. Not to mention near 70 year old 1400
foot houses selling for 500,000 as soon as they are listed.
where you couldn't buy a dilapidated dump for that price, despite the doom loop.
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
...support for fracking is supposed to be the key to winning Pennsylvania but I'll bet that the only Pennsylvanians who support fracking work in the industry. In other words, not very many Pennsylvanians support it.Most of us would be happy if the Marcellus Shale never existed. The industry pushes its weight around like it owned the state, and it's draining watersheds. Even in drought years, like this year, the fracking industry still takes the water. There are other important industries that employ, you know, human type people, they depend on the rivers and lakes, too.
And sometimes, it's not just whitewater rafting that's affected, it's a water supply. Big reservoir in Westmoreland County nearly ran dry last year. Regular customers had to cut back on water use, but not the fracking companies.
The blissful counterstroke-a considerable new message.
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You put Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren at the top of the ticket, it won't matter how popular their ideas are. The public will never get to hear them because billionaire mega-donors don't want Medicare for All and they don't want a ban on fracking. No money, no campaign.
Medicare for All especially has pretty strong bipartisan support among the public. Only in the halls of Congress is it unpopular.
The blissful counterstroke-a considerable new message.
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