Pls don't take it out context. (long)

Posted by cheap-Jack (M) on March 30, 2006 at 13:59:59

In Reply to: Re: For signal path, use Kynar not magnet wire please. posted by Jose R on March 30, 2006 at 12:09:05:

Hi.

First off, I was referring the choice btwn Kynar & magnet wires for signal path as suggested by the orignal poster. Sonically, IMO, Kynar get the very musical sound better than any non-silver wires, that include magnet wires which I sell tons to my transformer winder customers day in day out. I never intended to single out magnet wire being bad sounding. Strictly on a relative basis. Sonically, all wires are not made equal.

The skin or enamel coating of common magnet wires for the electrical industries is a blended mixture of chemicals to serve different applictions. Like polyester-polyamideimide, is a insulative enamel used commonly in magnet wire to resist over 200C. Of course, for solderable magnet wires, another blend of lower melting point: polyurethane-polyamide, is used as the enamel skin, which will be melted away with a soldering gun up to 180C.

Interested to know which type of magnet wire used "polyethylene" insulative coating? Not to me limited knowledge.

Theoretically, a wire should go WITHOUT any insulation, therrfore no dielectric loss & slow down of wave progation. But this would not happen as in an electronic device, there are cross circuits & HV that otherwise cause short circuits & dangers.

This boil down to the choice of insulation dielectrics which give that least sigal transfer: Vacuum, free air, foam PE, Teflon, .....

Thickness or thinness of the insulative dielectric can reduce the
capactance drainage of the signal (frequency dependent), & of course, affect the voltage insulation level, but is only a small fraction of the whole signal transfer picture.

c-J

PS That's in my mew DIY amps projects or upgrades, I start to use
bare wire (min 4N pure silver or Ag plated OFHC solid copper wire)
with 99% air insulation.

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Topic - Wire Size recommentations for tube Amps? - Mad Dog 16:01:07 03/29/06 (19)

NASA 26 ga Teflonâ„¢ TAPE wrappedâ€¦ - Paul Butterfield 08:25:41 03/30/06 (3)

Sonically, conductor purity come first. - cheap-Jack 09:08:32 03/30/06 (2)

Re: Sonically, conductor purity come first. - Paul Butterfield 10:32:17 03/30/06 (1)

Ask for Kynar wirewrap wires for computer PCBs. - cheap-Jack 14:12:13 03/30/06 (0)

my wire preferences... - Jim Doyle 20:00:31 03/29/06 (1)

Teflon is not ONLY heat resistant up to 200C. - cheap-Jack 07:24:25 03/30/06 (0)

Here's what I use... - grhughes 19:50:28 03/29/06 (0)

Re: Wire Size recommentations for tube Amps? - PeterP 18:11:54 03/29/06 (10)

For signal path, use Kynar not magnet wire please. - cheap-Jack 07:06:16 03/30/06 (9)

I disagree - Dave Cigna 15:23:06 03/30/06 (2)

Really ? - cheap-Jack 09:11:29 03/31/06 (1)

Re: Really ? - Dave Cigna 14:58:22 03/31/06 (0)

Re: For signal path, use Kynar not magnet wire please. - Jose R 12:09:05 03/30/06 (3)

Pls don't take it out context. (long) - cheap-Jack 13:59:59 03/30/06 (2)

Re: Pls don't take it out context. (long) - Jose R 21:21:19 03/30/06 (1)

Good idea. Let me know how these wires will sound. (nt) - cheap-Jack 08:37:59 03/31/06 (0)

I'll have to give that a try. - PeterP 09:22:47 03/30/06 (1)

Yes, try silver & you'll not want to look back. (nt) - cheap-Jack 14:05:00 03/30/06 (0)

Re: Wire Size recommentations for tube Amps? - drlowmu 16:21:27 03/29/06 (0)

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Pls don't take it out context. (long) - cheap-Jack 13:59:59 03/30/06 (2)

Re: Pls don't take it out context. (long) - Jose R 21:21:19 03/30/06 (1)

Good idea. Let me know how these wires will sound. (nt) - cheap-Jack 08:37:59 03/31/06 (0)

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